Re: BCM-95 / Reserveratol Destroying My Hair?

[cpio]

jdp, what happened then after the four months mark?

[youngbalder]

JDP710- I use laser helmet that Nidhogge built for me. My routine after i get out the shower would be dry my hair and while my hair is a bit damp,use laser helmet for about 10mins then slightly shift the helmet and use for another 10 mins. However i was meaning state my hair is very frizzy when dry because i have curly hair, so after im done with the laser treatment by this time its pretty dry so i wet my hands a and past it through my hair a couple times well so i can style my when its damped. I normally just dry my with a towel right after this so i can style my hair with my olive oil lotion hair product that i use.

[youngbalder]

Natural- Do you take any supplements or any topicals besides whats listed on screename?

[jdp710]

jdp, what happened then after the four months mark?

cpio & others,

I take pictures of my hair about every month and it was about this time I started to notice regrowth. My scalp also started to get in much better condition where the inflammation started to subside. My hair was also starting to get thicker. Before, my hair would fall over my head as it was so thin. But now, it was starting to be possible to style my hair in a mohawk. Not that I would, lol, but it was becoming a possibility. My hair loss didn't stop but it slowed down ... I can't remember how much.

My hair still itched a little so I started to experimented with a lot of antifungal, antidemodex, antibacterial topical products. I do believe this helped immensely and pushed me over the edge in the results I have today. Yeah, I've tried topicals in the past to rid myself of microorganism, etc. without much success but it wasn't until I added LLLT is when everything turned around. So again, LLLT inhibits microorganisms but for me, I included it for better or faster results ... not sure which. So, yes, LLLT will inhibit bacteria, etc. to a degree but I believe everyone should have a topical to rid themselves of these microorganisms for best results.

Anyway 3 or 4 months after that, there was no more inflammation on my scalp, I didn't need to use conditioner anymore, my hair was growing faster but "regrowth stopped." I regrew a lot of hair on the sides of my head but not everywhere. I've mentioned it many times before, but not everyone gets regrowth and don't count on LLLT giving regrowth.


Fast forward to around 6 - 8 months into it and is where I compared hairs from an old hair brush before I started LLLT with hairs after and the most striking difference was not just that my hairs were thicker but they were "A LOT" darker. I didn't have a lot but my "gray" hair pretty much disappeared. The hairs that were white you could actually see transition from pure white to a little color to really dark. Not all of them, but I'd say about 20% of the pure white ones have.

Even if LLLT never worked on stopping hair loss, it's a very viable alternative to preventing and even reversing gray hair to an extent. I did use coconut oil which has some testimonials on reversing gray hair but based on others experiences and clinics, I attribute the reduction in gray to LLLT mostly.

Really, the best way to describe results would be that my hair has now reversed the anagen/telogen ration where most all my hairs are now in anagen leading to stopping hair loss and my scalp feels almost identical to before I suffered from hair loss. Based on laser hair removal, hairs in anagen are the only ones affected by LLLT. One laser clinic even mentioned that LLLT only works on hairs early on in the anagen phase. That really is the best way to describe results as it slowly creaps up on you. About 6 months ago, Dr. Miracle even mentioned that you'll keep getting results for 5 years ... I'm guessing by the reversal in the anagen/telogen phase. Anyway, I really don't believe you just wake up one day and then your hair loss has stopped based on my experience and others. I'm guessing the reason why is based on the anagen/telogen ratio. Maybe also in that LLLT will lower triglycerides, LDL, C Reactive Protein, etc.. See this link for more info

http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-forums/viewthread.cfm?f=1&t=22046

There is just one thing that bothers me though, and it comes and goes but is I still have a feeling as if there are calcium depositis around the hair follicle on my crown whenever I very lightly touch my hair or my hair moves in the wind ... I'm guessing aldosteronism, I dunno. I never felt this before LLLT as my scalp was too inflammed and itched too much to feel it.

Lately, I've hardly been using my laser helmet as when everything is under control, I don't see a need to continue using a laser helmet for 3 days a week. I really don't believe you have to based on my experience the past 7 months. Not to mention, LLLT only affects cells that are unhealthy and doesn't affect the healthy cells.

With all this said, don't take just one person's results but don't forget to read the testimonial thread on others experiences that had results. I'm guessing it's about 80 people.


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I also "very much" believe their is a synergy relationship between magnesium and LLLT as well for the increased ATP. So I'd recommend for everyone, especially those that haven't seen much results, to take a good bioavailable magnesium supplement or better still IME use magnesium chloride or even topical magnesium chloride ... just don't let it dry on your scalp though.

Also, about 3 months ago it was realized that quite a few people didn't wire their helmet correctly and aren't getting enough volts and especially amps to their laser helmet which means the lasers aren't outputting nearly as much light as they should.

Also, quite a few people didn't realize you have to "thoroughly" wash your hair "with the right shampoo" before their laser treatment. I'd highly recommend for everyone to experiment with different shampoo's to see which one gives the best scalp sensations. When you get it right, your scalp usually feels like a really nice massage afterwards .. some have described it as a head pump. So again, you don't want a shampoo that weighs down your hair with unneccessary stuff too as it will impede laser results based on the study done on horses, my experience and others have mentioned that as well. You especially don't want to use a conditoner before treatment either for the same reason.

Personally, I sometimes wash my hair two times before my treatment to get out as much sebum as possible. If you've ever seen your scalp or face under 200x you'd know what I mean.

Also, hapyman's thread at this link is also very intersting which never gained much attention. Basically the article states that the more fibrosis you have, the longer your treatment time may have to be. Also, increasing a chronic condition may also need a longer treatment time initially. Also, you may have to increase treatment time depending on how dark your skin is. Something like 25% from very light to medium skin and 50% from very light to very dark skin. I'm not sure how true this is but it's an interesting article and something worth experimenting for those that aren't happy after 6 months of using their helmet.

Here is the thread http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-forums/viewthread.cfm?f=1&t=24174

hope this helps

[zeus]

Hey JDP-- using a 300 diode device from OMG. It was crafted top-notch. I've checked the volts and am getting the proper amount at the diode level (3.3v). My routine is this:

Monday, Wed, Fri-- Wash hair in the morning. Get home from work, put mag oil on for 20-30 minutes (Pacific from PureMagOil.com), shower/shampoo, "hand dry" my hair and on with the helmet for 20 minutes.

Tues, Thurs-- Wash hair in the morning. Get home from work, put mag oil on for 20-30 minutes, shower/shampoo.

Sat, Sun-- Wash hair in the morning.

[The Natural]

The Natural- Damn hopefully this is just shedding phase that im going through that leads to a positve. Thanks for your response.

Me too, brother.

I would also ask those into lasers, about sheds (which are not uncommon). They should be able to encourage you as well.

The Natural,

It appears some get a shed while others don't with LLLT.

Personally, I never noticed anything, other than better hair days, until around the 4 month mark.

jdp,

Well, anything that can stop one's hair loss w/out side effects is a good thing, so congratulations. In terms of being able to pinpoint one's treatment to specific areas of the scalp, lasers may prove useful to some.

[The Natural]

Natural- Do you take any supplements or any topicals besides whats listed on screename?

No, youngbalder, I don't. I have tried Applepoly's topical, Hair Again, and Shen Min's topical nutrient in the past, but didn't notice anything, positive or negative.

Now that I have gotten my hair loss under control, it would, in fact, be interesting to see what kind of effect they have on hair that has regrown. My guess is that these topicals would, no doubt, thicken them up .

[scottyc33]

Have you guys seen this?

http://www.serumdht.com/Circumin.html

[europe]

support LEF extension, not the salesman. ;-)

nothing new scooty, i think that site has been relooked, completly derivated from www.hairloss-research.org .

anyway, i'll go back again on curcumin/resveratrol pills in 6 months, after lasering and most of the IH6 + many things. My shedding seemed to stop now and that all thing is getting thicker.
So i try not to add other things.

But, i still take NATURAL CURCUMIN with olive oil (and from time to time turmeric force when i can't do my mix) and i take REAL ORGANIC RED WINE ( 2 glass min a day).
Once again, if my shed is still stabalized like IT SEEMS TOO SINCE 2 WEEKS ( and the scalp feels really great for long time) , THEN i'll put THE PILLS OF CURCUMIN AND RESVERA on the table. Then, i will judge reasonnably. For now, i stick to the natural things.

Hope it helped zeus ans youngbalder for instance !

PS : My good feelings now : mental, 300 helmet OMG, mag oil, GFSE, emu oil, coconut oil, TOCO SORB, heavy detox, ecklonia cava (nutricology now), D3/K2, borage oil, krill oil, R-ALA stabalized with or without L-carnitine ( plus biotin if ALA) ,brewer's yeast, VITAMIN CODE MULTI, BEAUTIFUL DIET AND DESTRESSED LIFE, scalp exercices ( tom hagerty), massages.
Lugol's is on the go in few weeks. i need to make a TSH,T3,T4 at least one time in my life prior lugol( even if i can be hypo on a normal range).

Good luck bros

[curt504]

zeus,

I have stated this numerous times, we need to pay more attention to how herbs interact together. And
if we are not seeing any progress with a certain combination of herbs, then perhaps it is time to stop, and try another combination. It should not be about adding more herbs. Perhaps the key in your case would be to subtract herbs from your regimen.

What is your present regimen?

TN

Hi Natural, I agree with your total picture view. I would expand the investigation process to include diet and recent changes and stress changes that may behind changes in one's hair.

This forum focuses more on herb/supplement protocols and very little on diet, sleep, stress management.

For example I've observed wide swings in health and symptoms in my wife with just changes in stress from work. The herb/suppliment protocol is working good, a rough week comes up by Friday a few cans of coke have been downed, a desperation donut or two, forgetting the fish oil and HRT for a day and by Saturday an opportunistic bug has taken hold and negative symptoms are present. We can guess that there where periods of insulin streeming, low hormones, high inflammation channels and low immune system and thyroid.

We've not been able to control most of our sources of stress or stay on our protocols without forgetting but it has afforded a useful living laboratory of what nutrients get used up and symptoms appear as a result.

Good luck, curt

[The Natural]

Curt, thank you for your observations.

What I think you will find through the disproportionate number of threads about herbs/supplements
is an overall concern about health, stress, and diet.

For example, in posts related to curcumin, studies of its ability to manage inflammation and stress have been discussed by members.

Admittedly tangential, but for some, it is a question of what came first, the hen or the egg, and the vicious cycle that can result from either: stress leads to hair loss, which leads to more stress; hair loss leads to stress, which leads to more hair loss.


TN

[youngbalder]

the Natural-Are you currently using both country life and jarrow or just one? i have restock and was wondering if i should switch to Country life which seems to have more bang for the buck?

[curt504]

While we're asking TN about his protocol, I'm wondering why no Eck-Cava, which seems to be a popular good health fix all? I've run across EC mentioned in a Dr. health letter as well.

tnx curt

[Nuada]

I dropped bio curcumin resveratrol 2 weeks ago and I re started using lignans and the heavy shed seems to be stabilized. Although I'll switch lignans with curcumin in a week or so and use it for a while just to be sure if thats what really caused the shed.

[youngbalder]

Caustic symmetry- Im still goin strong sticking it out to the 4 month mark with curcumin resveratrol combo. Im wondering why is it that makes my scalp feel great and dandruff free but my hair is shedding a lot? Is is possible for this to happen because i would assume that if it stops inflammation in my scalp it would lead to helping my hairloss?