BCM-95 / Reserveratol Destroying My Hair?

[zeus]

I've been taking 1 capsule of each daily for a little over 2 months and my hair has been getting worse at a dramatic rate. Is there any reason why these would actually aggravate the my MBP? I've been on some form of the top six consistently for over the last year and have failed to make any progress on my hair loss. I thought maybe the recent switch from 7HMR would help, but not sign of that happening

If I was to take these 2 supplements out, what should I substitute in to replace their function? Should I press on longer with them?

[jksl]

getting worse in what way? diffuse thinning? or receding of the hairline? if receding, i'd stop immediately.

[zeus]

My temples had been receding slowly. After starting the BCM-95/Res combo I've had a lot of diffusion all over the front half of my scalp, to the extent where I used to have full coverage, I can no longer comb my hair to hide scalp from showing through. The middle of my hairline has also started to open up which has really startled me. My hairline has miniaturized so much it's hard to say I even have one any more (was NW2). I wouldn't say my temples have receded much farther, but now the loss is headed upwards towards the middle of my head.

I know it sounds drastic/crazy, but I wasn't anticipating my hair being this bad for another year or so based on my previous rate of loss.

[The Natural]

zeus,

I am sorry to hear about your progress. But it is important that we post our experiences with a particular combination of herbs, whether positive or negative. I just recently stopped taking green tea extract all together because it was, I believe, negatively affecting the other herbs that I was taking. However, other people seem to benefit from it.

I have stated this numerous times, we need to pay more attention to how herbs interact together. And
if we are not seeing any progress with a certain combination of herbs, then perhaps it is time to stop, and try another combination. It should not be about adding more herbs. Perhaps the key in your case would be to subtract herbs from your regimen.

What is your present regimen?

TN

[zeus]

Hey Natural, thanks for stepping up because I know you have a lot of success with these. Here is my complete regime:

Morning
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LifeExtension Super Bio Curcumin: 400mg (1 Capsule)
Country Life Resveratrol: 1 Capsule
NOW Biotin: 5000mcg (1 Capsule)

Krill Oil: 1g (2 Capsule)
NOW D3+K2: 1000IU/45mcg (1 Capsule)
FibroBoost: 400mg (1 Capsule)
Sensoril: 125mg (1 Capsule)
ALA ALC Bioprene: 2 Capsule
BioSil: 5mg (1 Capsule)

Evening:
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Maca Powder: 1 teaspoon

Krill Oil: 1g (2 Capsule)
NOW D3+K2: 1000IU/45mcg (1 Capsule)
FibroBoost: 400mg (1 Capsule)
Sensoril: 125mg (1 Capsule)
ALA ALC Bioprene: 2 Capsule
BioSil: 5mg (1 Capsule)

Other:
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300 Diode Laser Helmet: Mon, Wed, Fri - 20 minute session (3 months in)
Topical Magnesium: Mon, Tues, Weds, Thurs, Fri
Shampoo: Jason Natural Biotin Shampoo x2 daily

Just a bit about my history. Turning 24 soon, noticed hairloss about 2.5 years ago. Have consistently been on IH Top 6 for the last year and followed the tweaks that have been made to it during that time. Tried PM for a but breasts got tender. Also tried Epilobium, Toco-8 and a few other things, including IH's topical rinse. I can't say I've really slowed down my shedding since I've started taking steps to prevent.

Right now I'm a solid NW 2.5, diffuse on top, the middle of my hair line has disappeared in the last month and a half. Whole hair line is visibly miniaturized and non-existant now in some places. I eat a very low carb diet during the week (meat + greens only) and high carb on the weekend (good carbs, very clean). No drinking, drugs, etc..

[zeus]

Really thanks for any input.. starting to really question what to do next.

[The Natural]

Really thanks for any input.. starting to really question what to do next.

zeus,

Your present regimen looks wonderful on paper. I am truly shocked that you are not experiencing better results.

I can't remember if was here, or at another forum, but a poster asked me what I thought of the traditional "DHT blockers" like nettle root, beta sitosterol, saw palmetto, pygeum, and such. I responded that I had some success using these type of herbs in my initial stages of hair loss. In fact, Shen Min's Advanced Men's formula contained a DHT blocking herbal blend that returned my temples to their former glory . But as I got older, these types of herbs became less effective for me.

Still, at 24, you are young, so DHT blocking herbs may work well for you. I think you would have to drop almost everything in your current regimen, though, in order to determine the DHT blocking herbs' true effectiveness.

TN

[CausticSymmetry]

zeus - It's possible that you might be going through a shed period, which happens from time to time. I don't get them very often, but when it happens it's really depressing.

About 6-months ago, maybe 5 I don't remember exactly I went through a really disconcerning shed. Funny thing is that I've had a few comments from people who had not seen me even before this shed and have noticed an improvement on my hair. So whatever happened is completely repaired.

I'm a hotel right now, and their Internet is kind of flakey so might have some trouble making some posts in the next day or two.

If it's not a shed, this might be a bit of a longshot but I wonder if the bioperine is doing anything. It does interact with Curcumin and Resveratrol with respect to glucuronidation.

[halfempty]

Sometimes when going through a shed my hair will appear to be getting better.

If I obsessed about sheds every time I was in one it would drive me nuts and probably increase my hair loss.

I question how significant they are in relation to the progression of our hair loss sometimes. In other words, I feel that they sometimes just don't mean much at all. This is highly disputable though.

[zeus]

Hey thanks guys, really appreciated.

Natural-- I'm kinda weary about going on internal DHT blockers, do you think topical ones would be a good route?

Caustic-- Very interesting, I've read so much good stuff about ALC/ALA it's a shame it might be a problem. Would you suggest cutting it out in favor of keeping the BCM/Res?

[youngbalder]

Zeus- Hey zeus your not alone on this negative shedding from BCM 95/resveratrol. I also started using combo 2 months and 2 weeks ago. An my crown went from not so shiny to very shiny. And my hairline is slowly receding. Im currently using biotin 500mcg, toco 8(2 months in), PM(1 month in), 400 laser helmet(1 month in), vitamin k2/ d2, alc/lipoic acid once a day, maca 3grams a day, moxxor omega 3(2 months in), jarrows probiotic(1 month in) and aubrey stocks shampoo and conditioner. My hair is at its all time worst i was going to stick till 3month mark but i dont think its going to improve because ive lost so much in my crown. Do you guys think it could be negative effect between maca and bcm95/resveratrol combo?

[Nuada]

I've been using curcumin + resveratrol for 2.5 months(I used jarrrows curcumin for the first 2 months and switched to life extention super bio curcumin after that) or so and lately I've been shedding alot. Though it can be stress related(working on grad project) or a seasonal shedding, I can't put my finger on it. If it keeps shedding, I am thinking of dropping resveratrol and curcumin and getting back on lignans for a while to see any difference.
In october I think I'll hit the 1 year limit on IH's top 3 - 6.

[CausticSymmetry]

zeus - ALC/ALA is A-Okay, I was referring to the bioperine, which is an extra.

I like to take the Stabilized R-Lipoic acid where I get at Iherb.com but then I take my Acetyl L-Carnitine from a really cheap place. www.Bestvite.com

Anyway, the bioperine is just totally speculative on my part so no real idea.

[hadrion]

zeus - ALC/ALA is A-Okay, I was referring to the bioperine, which is an extra.

I like to take the Stabilized R-Lipoic acid where I get at Iherb.com but then I take my Acetyl L-Carnitine from a really cheap place. www.Bestvite.com

Anyway, the bioperine is just totally speculative on my part so no real idea.

You got me worried about the bioperine now IH. I just started a supplement called Alpha Burn by RPN that has it in the ingredients.

[The Natural]

Hey thanks guys, really appreciated.

Natural-- I'm kinda weary about going on internal DHT blockers, do you think topical ones would be a good route?

Caustic-- Very interesting, I've read so much good stuff about ALC/ALA it's a shame it might be a problem. Would you suggest cutting it out in favor of keeping the BCM/Res?

zeus, topical ones would be the safer route, for sure. Though, I can't speak to their efficacy.