Re: Hypothesis of Male Pattern Hair Loss

[Espio]

how do you know after only two days that you are allergic to gluten? it takes atleast two weeks for any remianing gluten to leave your system after you cut off the intake.

[CausticSymmetry]

Interesting stuff jdp710

It's been mentioned on this forum before, but BioCore DPP IV (Dipeptidyl peptidase IV) may also be useful.

I tried this out shortly after the product was first introduced, maybe around 2007 if I recall. I don't remember
noticing anything, but my wheat intake has been quite low for some years.

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Gluten-Digest-60-Vcaps/12364?at=0

[jdp710]

Thanks CausticSymmetry, I'll have to try those out.

Espio,

That's what surprised me too as I've also heard that it takes weeks if not months to find out. It was also surprising that I never realized I was until I went "100%" off.

The best analogy I can give is say you have allergies and you start sneezing everytime you mow the lawn. Now say you have do this for a living and you mow lawns everyday of your life. Well, sneezing will just become a normal part of your life. But if one day you change careers and you no longer mow lawns you'll realize almost immediately that you aren't sneezing and you'll realize that all this time you've had allergies. Well, gluten sensitivity is the same thing. You don't need to spend 2 weeks away from mowing lawns to realize you have allergies ... at least I don't.

What's interesting and what isn't mentioned on the internet regarding symptoms is that my normal deep voice has already returned ... I use to start to lose my voice, especially after eating. Shortly after eating I would usually get irritable but that's 100% gone so far. Also, I wake up refreshed now and not so sleepy anymore but too early to tell on this one. I use to have a problem slouching but that's better. I've always suffered from very dark circles under my eyes for most of my life but that's getting better now. So again, IME you don't need to wait a couple weeks/months for your stomach to heal itself to notice relief like they say.



Here's an interesting quote Gluten sensitivity and Celiac disease are a known cause of scleroderma and dozens of other autoimmune diseases. Even if tests for gluten sensitivity and Celia disease are negative or inconclusive, trial of a gluten-free and casein-free (GFCF) should be considered.

http://sclero.org/medical/symptoms/associated/celiac-disease/a-to-z.html

Here is another intersting quote and would probably help with Stephen Foote's theory of MPB = lymphedema "Any sustained accumulation of proteins delivered to the body tissue by the blood capillaries, and not removed by the lymphatic system, will cause a swelling of fluid in the interstitial areas of the body tissues. The oxygenation of adjacent tissue is thereby reduced and the healing process is retarded. A localized accumulation of proteins further compounds this situation by directly stimulating chronic inflammation."

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5976099.html

[Espio]

thanks jdp, i'm going to try cutting out bread 100% and see if that helps at all, I have sunken eyes and dark circles as well, so i'll see if they go away.

[CausticSymmetry]

I found this site the other day, it lists a number of foods and supplements that may contain wheat or gluten that are hidden.

I even saw Brewer's Yeast on this list, so I checked the kind that I'm using. Fortunately, mine doesn't contain any wheat or gluten but anyway it's hard not to be too careful.

http://www.celiac.com/articles/182/1/Unsafe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Unsafe-Ingredients/Page1.html

[Prague]

jdp710

great found! this somehow links the hypothesis i presented together

[CausticSymmetry]

Prague - I was thinking the same thing. You've been analyzing the Scleroderma connection for quite a while. Another autoimmune condition which is has very prevalent hair loss is Lupus. One of the best treatments for Lupus is to leave off wheat and gluten.

[Gibson]

I agree: the allergy/autoimmune connection is profound, perhaps one of the best things you can do just to improve your life over all is get a handle on allergies. You can get a blood test done to see if you're immune system is being compromised.

[Espio]

Is flatulance a good way of judging food intolerances? This summer I have been hanging out with a lot of people who are gardeners so I have been eating a lot of their fruit, and I've noticed that whenever I eat a lot of fruit I get gas all day. I was thinking this may mean I have fructose intolerance? Or does a high fiber diet cause more gas naturally?

[CausticSymmetry]

Espio - Fructose is major cause of gas.

[Espio]

Ah, so that's normal then, okay nevermind

[hapyman]

Hey JDP that excerpt you posted from that book on google was pretty interesting. I liked how he was able to return to a gluten diet, presumably after the healing was done. Perhaps all of this is because of intestinal permeability (leaky gut) stemming from some infection or lack of healthy bacteria in the past. The gluten just helped to further the problem. I think it will be interesting to see if after awhile you will be able to tolerate certain gluten sources in small doses. With my history of allergies and what not I am thinking about giving this a good run. Like you, I have done a "low gluten" diet but have never been 100% free. This is going to be rough, especially when eating out. But I think it can be done.

[Espio]

So I've noticed that my immune system may be in overdrive, I only get sick like once a year, and that is caused by a food intolerance, right? So the reason why my thyroid may be underactive is because I'm eating a food I'm sensitive too, and that is putting my immune system into overdrive, so the immune system is attacking things that should not be attacked, like the thyroid.

[Gibson]

Espio--

I'm not sure what your thinking is, but if you're immune system is overworking, you would be getting sick more often, not less. Also, recovery would take longer. Basically, anything strenuous could max you out. Chronic swollen glands is a good indicator of an over-worked immune system.

[jdp710]

Hey hapyman,

Yeah, like you I've also tried going off gluten and didn't notice much as gluten is found in almost everything. I even read that vitamin enriched white rice from overseas (not US) contains gluten via the vitamin coating that the rice is sprayed with.

Here's what I'd recommend. Cut all normal foods from your diet. Also cut dairy as a lot of gluten sensitive people are also sensitive to dairy as well ... I believe I am as well. The easiest foods to eat for this experiment would be just plain old white rice that says gluten free. Mine says gluten free that I bought at Walmart. And then you'll want some meat like a piece of chicken or steak or whatever. Don't put seasoning on it just yet as gluten/wheat can even be hidden under "natural flavors." Also, don't put anything in your rice like butter, etc..

Yeah, this food will be very blah as it's just rice and a piece of meat, lol, but I noticed a huge benefit within a couple days and I'm sure anyone that's sensitive to gluten and/or Casein/dairy will notice a difference very quick. I'm already starting to add regular foods in and later I'll add my vitamins. Beyond reading the labels of everything you eat I believe this is a very good way of checking if your gluten and/or Casein sensitive.

BTW, I noticed when I have a reaction it starts about 2 hours after eating the meal and starts to dissipate I'm guessing 8 hours later ... I noticed this when I added garlic salt to my steak. The garlic salt had "natural flavors" under ingredients ... UGHH. Again, this shows how just the smallest amount of gluten triggers a reaction. I also tried butter while not as strong of a reaction as gluten, I believe I'm sensitive. I can't stress enough that it really has to be "100%" gluten and casein/dairy free. 99% free won't cut it to see if your gluten sensitive.

hope this helps