Correcttion / Regrowth with topical Kefir and Agrimony?

[Crusher]

As CS said before, it's too early to speak about concrete results.
But here my first impression:

Kefir seems to work good on my scalp (maybe the homemade version works much more better, haven't tried it until now), decreasing oiling, less of dandruff and itching (to obviate a misunderstanding:
Kefir can't create regrwoth).
I can't give a comment about Agrimony-oil, cause I haven't found here in Europe a store/website to purchase
Agrimony-oil.
Maybe Papain-oil within some additional oils could be helpful.
I'll provide feedback.

[Crusher]

Why didn't I mention this yesterday? Since I'm using Kefir on my scalp, my daily hair loss rate slows down.
No more than 4 or 5 hairs a day.
So I think it's worth a try.

[tommmash]

I´m gonna say a very positive things about kefir.
I´ve using it since monday.
I don´t know if it´s provided by kefir but my hairloss seems to be very stabilised since Im using it.
I pray to keep it like this.
So it´s really worth to try!

[Warren]

tommmash: Are you using kefir topically or orally?

I´m gonna say a very positive things about kefir.
I´ve using it since monday.
I don´t know if it´s provided by kefir but my hairloss seems to be very stabilised since Im using it.
I pray to keep it like this.
So it´s really worth to try!

[tommmash]

tommmash: Are you using kefir topically or orally?

I´m gonna say a very positive things about kefir.
I´ve using it since monday.
I don´t know if it´s provided by kefir but my hairloss seems to be very stabilised since Im using it.
I pray to keep it like this.
So it´s really worth to try!

topically of course!

[thelibrarian]

what about simply opening a probiotic cap mixing it in water and apply it to the scalp after a shampoo?

CS- would you mind elaborating on your statement about the primacy of bacteria in hair loss? much appreciated !

BTW, I am thoroughly enjoying your blog- awesome! And seriously, you should sign up members for a small monthly fee- I would gladly pay 10 bucks a month to access this site!

[CausticSymmetry]

thelibrarian - Thank you for your comments, much appreciated. Even though I could use the money, doing a subscription would lose a lot of readers for sure. My website design skills are seriously lacking also, but I thought about placing a donation area somewhere just to help offset the general operating cost which the google ads often fail to do. I think the readers here are too knowledgeable to click on them anyway, LOL.

Regarding the bacteria, I think it's potentially viable because tetracyclines such as doxycycline can help stimulate hair growth by inhibiting TGF-B1–induced production of MMP-9. It's also effective in acne and rosacea, which are definitely associated with bacteria. There are some health conditions that lead to an elevated bacteria count, such as in rosacea which is strongly affected by the presence of helicobacter pylori. Because helicobacter pylori literally sucks up stomach acid, the body's ability to contain bacteria is compromised.

For example, phagocytosis occurs with proper amounts of hydrochloric acid in the stomach. Phagocytosis is a process of engulfing pathogens, so in the case of rosacea increasing the stomach acid either orally or by eradicating h. pylori along with b-vitamins will prevent most rosacea. Rosacea have some similarities to androgenetic alopecia in terms of the inflammatory process and enzymes.

Emerging evidence suggests that our immune system is largely determined by bacteria. In vascular diseases bacteria has a strong role to play, and if AGA is at least in part an autoimmune disease where the body is unable to recognize that it is attacking itself, getting enough good bacteria in there will straighten out the pathogenic bacteria and lead to a better regulation instead of attacking indiscriminately.

Bacteria can also have a strong influence on glucose and insulin levels and even steroid enzyme expression.

[jersey]

thelibrarian - My website design skills are seriously lacking also, but I thought about placing a donation area somewhere just to help offset the general operating cost which the google ads often fail to do. I think the readers here are too knowledgeable to click on them anyway, LOL.

I can send a small donatation to show my appreciation for all you do and to keep this site out of the red.

[gonzalito]

CS - I´ve read that turmeric could kill H. pylori... Won´t turmeric work as a topical?

"AIM: To investigate the 'killing and anti-adhesive] properties of 25 plants against Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori)...

RESULTS: Of all the plants tested, eight plants, including Bengal quince, nightshade, garlic, dill, black peooer, coriander, fenugreek and black tea, were found to have no killing effect...

...long pepper, parsley, tarragon, nutmeg...sage and cinnamon had killing activities against H. pylori, but total inhibition of 'its growth was not achieved in this study. Among the plants that killed H. pylori, turmeric was the most effective, followed by cumin, ginger, chilli, borage, black caraway, oregano and liquorice..."

From: World J. Gastroent., Dec. 2005. By: Drs. O'Mahony, Al-Khtheeri, Weerasekera, Fernando, Holton and Basset, Centre for Infectious Diseases, Royal Free and University Colleges, London Med. School, 46 Cleveland St., London, WIP 6DB, United Kingdom.

[thelibrarian]

Thanksfor your response CS- so what do you think of applying some probiotic solution directly to the scalp?

[CausticSymmetry]

jersey - Thank you!

thelibrarian - I'm not certain how well a probiotic used topically would work out. However, kefir has a trillion plus bacteria count, whereas the very best probiotics only have about 50 to 100 billion. I should point out that only self-made kefir would contain large quantities since store bought has vastly less--to marginal amounts by the time it reaches the consumer.

gonzalito - Helicobacter Pylori originates in the stomach, so topical treatment would not be a factor. Other than Turmeric/Curcumin, Thyme and Sulforaphane are remarkably effective against H. Pylori also.

[Abhi]

thelibrarian - Thank you for your comments, much appreciated. Even though I could use the money, doing a subscription would lose a lot of readers for sure. My website design skills are seriously lacking also, but I thought about placing a donation area somewhere just to help offset the general operating cost which the google ads often fail to do. I think the readers here are too knowledgeable to click on them anyway, LOL.

Hey CS, I will gladly click on the links every day if it helps. If everybody else does this maybe you an easily offset the operating costs. the donationthing is also a good idea.

[angstman]

Id definitely make a donation. Ive gained some really great knowledge here and its much appreciated.

[nidhogge]

Fascinating!

IH, this reminds me of that telomerase-guy that claims his $2,000 telomerase can cure baldness. Wonder if it's along the same lines?

[huli]

I made some of my own milk kefir and finally applied it last night. My scalp feels great today. I have actually been using Scalpure lately and it feels even better after the kefir than it does after Scalpure. I have no idea what it has done/will do to my rate of hair loss but it may take some time to see a difference. My scalp does feel loser and more elastic though and not at all itchy. Thinking there might be a microbial war going on on my scalp as a result of using the kefir I decided to load up on some bromelain on an empty stomach to keep any inflammation that might create in check so not sure if that has had a positive effect as well or not. The only drawback that I can see so far as I feel I cannot get away from the lingering odor of kefir which is akin to that of sour milk.

I will keep everyone updated on future developments.