Regrowth with topical Kefir and Agrimony?

[Crusher]

Well, we all know about the benefit of kefir as a probiotic.
For topical use I found this:

http://kevinsremedies.com/hair/kefir-remedy.aspx

What do you guys think? Is it worth a try?
I could imagine, it's good for anyone with itching and flaky scalp.

[CausticSymmetry]

Crusher - This seems like a marvelous idea! Based on all the research, having bacteria imbalance is the biggest factor in hair loss, so if this can change bacteria homeostasis in the scalp area could be the most effective natural topical. If you try this, please provide feedback.

[CausticSymmetry]

If this works, making your own kefir instead of a kefir store product would probably make a significant difference.

[NrwgnKID]

Crusher - This seems like a marvelous idea! Based on all the research, having bacteria imbalance is the biggest factor in hair loss, so if this can change bacteria homeostasis in the scalp area could be the most effective natural topical. If you try this, please provide feedback.

When you say bacteria imbalance Caustic, do you think of demodex etc ?

[CausticSymmetry]

NrwgnKID - Demodex is not bacteria, but there are is a pretty strong association between the two. For example in a Chinese study on Rosacea which is an inflammatory skin disease with some similarity to hair loss inflammation. While there 74.2% rate of rosacea cases were infected by Demodex, it was found that 80.4% were infected with bacteria.

[Misirlou]

Could this kefir as a topical solution also be useful for treatment of rosacea?

[NrwgnKID]

Thanks for the info Caustic. But what bacterial imbalance are we talking about in this case ? Is it the bacterial imbalance and negative bacterial growth in the digestive system that eventually reaches the scalp, and we are using topical kefir to battle this ?

[CausticSymmetry]

Misirlou - I'm not sure. In 2007 the exact etiology with Rosacea may have been found, which is an imbalance of Antimicrobial peptides. If the innate immune system for the skin works properly there is sufficient defense against
bacteria, viruses and yeast. One aspect that casually links Rosacea with hair loss is that an increased expression of matrix metalloproteinase (MMP)-9 exists.

NrwgnKID - A lot of what causes Rosacea starts in the digestive tract. Insufficient hydrochloric acid, digestive enzymes or presence of Helicobacter Pylori, and possibly an imbalance of lactic acid bacteria in the lower GI-Tract.

Bacteria is everywhere and much of its health can be governed by probiotics, but to what extent there are still a lot of unanswered questions (more studies needed). Here is an example of what one strain of Lactobacilli bacteria can do for the oral cavity.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118545073/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

[NrwgnKID]

The link didnt work, but Ill try and find it somewhere else. Thanks for the info !!

[Ryan]

Interesting! I make tons of kefir so I will try this out.

[Crusher]

Crusher - This seems like a marvelous idea! Based on all the research, having bacteria imbalance is the biggest factor in hair loss, so if this can change bacteria homeostasis in the scalp area could be the most effective natural topical. If you try this, please provide feedback.

CS - yes, I think I'll try this out. My idea behind it was exactly that, what you have written =>
bacteria imbalance ( I really was surprised to find some google-hits).

Thanks for your hint to make my own kefir, there are two possible ways:

- making water-kefir or
- making milk-kefir.

As far as I know the milk version is the better choice. First of all I have to organize
a kefir-bulb.
And yes, I'll provide feedback.

[DirtyHairy]

Has anyone tried this with any results?

[gonzalito]

As DirtyHarry asked: Have you got any positive result???

[CausticSymmetry]

I would assume it's far too early to assess results at this stage.

[Crusher]

As CS said before, it's too early to speak about concrete results.
But here my first impression:

Kefir seems to work good on my scalp (maybe the homemade version works much more better, havent't tried it until now), decreasing oilness, less of dandruff and itching (to obviate a misunderstanding:
Kefir can't create regrwoth).
I can't give a comment about Agrimony-oil, cause I haven't found here in Europe a store/website to purchase
Agrimony-oil.
Maybe Papain-oil within some additional oils could be helpful.
I'll provide feedback.