Re: Vitamins to be classified as Illegal Drugs

[Misirlou]

Jocko,
I respect your right to have your own opinion (of course), but I can tell from the smell of your footprint that you do have enough proof to cut down Glacier's opinions - this is very apparent because you choose to slander him, in public.

Please realize this: Most things are true, just the way they are given to us. The sun is true. The air is true. The water is true. A lot of "irrelevant" news are true. But not all things are true and why shouldn't we question some "bad-smelling" assassinations, accidents, political decisions, political lies, economical laws etc? Just take a look into the history books and you will discover that all these things have happened before and when it's history, most sources tends openly publish conspiracies since they are looked upon as "non-damaging" since it was "so long time ago" - but let me tell you son, the history is filled with lies and the future will not change this fact.

Yes, I believe the we've been to the moon. Yes I believe Elvis is dead. Yes I believe the globe is round and not flat. Yes I believe that their are terrorists - but 9/11, Pearl Harbor and WWII, Holocaust, Israel etc etc are issues where the entire truth is official and lies have been told.

Glacier, perhaps you are right when you point out religion, but if this is true, those guys are the crazy ones...making these extreme cults look like kindergarten. I also think that large amounts of financial resources and power positions do corrupt, not only the acts of the people in charge but also the mindset of these "slaves". In my world, this is the "devil" and we can all be infested.

[scottyc33]

Isn't it so much easier to call some one "nuts" rather than actually educating oneself on an issue and refuting a certain viewpoint with logic and facts?

[Glacier]

Misirlou,
This is an opinion only.

Without delving too deep into this, I do believe in religion and God, infact I believe in all religions in the teachings if Moses, Jesus and Mohammad (peace be upon them). However I firmly believe that these religions were infiltrated and distorted and presented as "cults" to the public. This was deliberately done to destroy religion and destroy the concept of God itself : the New Age theories going around today, that God is a feeling experience and not a believing experience. I think that all three monotheistic religions were attacked for this purpose, why do you think that polytheistic religions are never attacked? where do you think this concept of atheism came from? not challenging anyone's beliefs but this seems a product of this system, why do the politicians always point our differences? create this aura that there is a conflict of religions out there?

I saw the movie "Quarantine", scary stuff man, people may buy it as a fictional movie but the ideas have to come from somewhere, it may happen someday. The elite control Hollywood, music, porn and every thing that we see, people become slaves to these things. I think princess Diana was killed deliberately, I think Michael Jackson was killed too. One of his popular video "All I wanna say is that they don't really care about us" there is part in it where he is pointing to the all seeing eye on the wall and saying "All I wanna say is that they don't really care about us", he started writing songs like "Heal the world" because he realized what messages songs portray and started working against it, eventually they got to him. The "All seeing eye" can also be found on the US dollar bill (look at top of the pyramid). Look at the movies this concept is promoted so people eventually start to accept this stuff as true and normal, it's called brain washing. mind control.

I am sure you saw "Zeitgeist" : they start with the all seeing eye and end with it. In the final parts of the movie after declaring all religions as a means to control people they introduce the "Venus Project", what do think they mean? it's the same NWO, it's the classic strategy to convince people just like on TV : show them one issue after another, tell them there are great problems then suddenly inject the solution : people are already primed to look for a solution, all of a sudden it is there and people accept it that it is the truth : classic hyptonism and brain washing.

I think the key is to keep an open mind and don't believe everything you see or hear, use your head, usually when a lot of people of believe in something, it's usually not true.

[Anxious1]

Hey guys, first post !!!

u may know me from other forums. - huge fan IH

i had to add to this discussion.

basically i could spend my life analysing conspiricy theories, and being paranoid, but i choose to let myself somewat be controlled. I obviously hate certain aspects such as flouride, mercury and chlorine and anti maurijuana laws, but i like our Australian government. Guns r banned here, very few murders, and life is good. i wish our government didnt suck up to the US one so much, but i guess they do it in case we need their help one day.

My main problem with the Iraq invasion, is that it went against the UN, which is a international council and the best chance there is at world peace, and USA went against it. I dont know how any government can expect to solve century old disputes with more guns and death.

I dont believe we were told the truth with 9/11, but i dont even know if the US gov even knows wat happened. I certainly dont beleive 20 alquida terrorists would be smart enough to pull that off with box cutters without raising an eyebrow. Yes ive read all the consiracy theories. And if the US gov was involved, then the consiracy theorists r doing them a huge favour by hiding wat actually happened within the consiracy theories, which no doubt they would have been counted on.

I guess wat im saying is although i dont trust anyone, and i question everything, i dont want to spend my life being paranoid. I want to have some fun before we all kill each other. Im old enough to know that there can never be peace. unless the entire planet gets medicated lol.

one last thing Michael jackson died because he was paying a doctor 200 000 a month to do wat he says, and he was using general anesthetics as sleeping tablets, and the doctor was sick of his whining so he kept giving him more and more and now hes dead. The doctor is at fault, but anyone knowingly using anesthetic as a sleeping aid ( as well as all the other drugs) in insane and asking to die. End of story.

[Misirlou]

Glacier,
many religious writings are of course more fiction then facts, but I do believe one can interpret an universal message in most of them about peace and love, too bad history has been so much about the opposite.

When one describes a problem it's natural to also present a solution, I'm not convinced that the Venus Project = NWO, and I don't believe NWO is a grand master plan for the enslavement of the population of the planet Earth either, in my mind no such plan can exist and be carried out without drop-outs, without exposure etc - but yes, we are being more and more controlled thanks to globalization and greed.


Anxious1,
I tend to agree with you also, especially about the Iraq invasion, which showed clearly that the American army isn't serving the legacy from the founding fathers nor the current population of U.S, but rather private elite interests. We could all devote the rest of our spare time to analyze C-theories, but hey, in most cases we cannot get to the complete truth anyway, or at least not do anything about it or even learn how to avoid doing the same mistakes in the future. I agree with you that it's hard to live a happy and energetic life and at the same time inhale all the sad news and greedy lies happening every day.

About Michael Jackson...I don't believe he was assassinated in the way Glacier suggests, I mean if he had so much insight and tried to inform the masses..he would also understand that his life was in danger and take precautions (e.g homemade info-videos sent to news stations around the world if he died, books etc). But what really happened (Anxious1 mentioned a doctor and meds) is nothing we can confirm...we are told what to believe.

[Glacier]

Misirlou,
I think they are so widespread and powerful that people take it for granted, they own the media, the movie industry, the pop music industry, governments, they enslave countries in debt, they take aid to places like Africa and spread diseases then take over their natural resources - anybody who goes against them is silenced or will be e.g. Venenzula. My religious opinion is just that - an opinion, I too was against religion and there was point where I had given up on it but careful investigation with an open mind lead me back to it - anyways I don't want to delve into it, religion is something you take on belief and anybody else's beliefs is no business of mine.

NWO has been always been there but now they really putting the accelerator on it, time will tell where this goes.

Anxious1,

I don't know about UN. United Nations in my book is equal to US. They are just blanket organizations to hide the dirt, just like IMF which is very good at putting countries in debt.

[Jocko59]

Bush blew up the levees in New Orleans and caused all that flooding in August of 2005. It wasn't from Hurricane Katrina. LOL.

But rock on dudes. Whatever floats your boat.

[Glacier]

Search for H.A.A.R.P on Google. Good luck to you.

[Glacier]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program#Weapon

[DM5]

You all forgot about our ancient Allien creators, the Annunaki from planet X. The alien race depicted throughout Sumer, Egyptian, and other ancient history. Supposedly bred us for worker attributes to grab our gold. Questions about an extra useless chromosome in human DNA that points at a genetic engineering, possible alien/human hybrid concoction being "us". The fact that Sumer, Egypt, Greece all had 12 gods. The Mayan prediction 2012 the end of the world when the Slave creators come back for their gold. Alien encounters and abductions having the same patterns throughout history.

The list goes on and on. Many of these "conspiracy theories" might be debunked or minds put more at ease if there were more Openness from those organizations like the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group and Council on Foreign Relations as well as having an independent commission investigating certain controversial events. My new interest is in ALCOR LEF and the expose by that whistleblower in the book "Frozen".. http://www.frozenbook.com/

[scottyc33]

You guys hear that they just "appointed" a President of the European Union.
No elections - his duties and powers aren't even clearly defined.
That's some crazy Orwellian sh*t right there.

[Glacier]

CS posted a link to this. Anybody who is interested take the time to watch this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ&feature=related

[Paradox]

Thanks for that link cs...That was a great interview.

[Glacier]

Intriguing stuff :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

[DM5]

Probably the most comprehensive book I have read on this topic

http://www.amazon.com/Rule-Secrecy-Trilateral-Commission-Freemasons/dp/0060931841