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Post  Icanbeatthis on Sun May 24, 2009 4:35 pm

Hey quick question!

Can I take Acetyl-L-Carnitine by itself without taking Lipoic Acid at the same time? I have a bottle laying around and wanted to know if it's safe by itself.

Thanks!

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Re: Acetyl-L-Carnitine

Post  Swimmy on Sun May 24, 2009 8:15 pm

Yes. Theres nothing wrong that.

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Re: Acetyl-L-Carnitine

Post  CausticSymmetry on Sun May 24, 2009 8:33 pm

Icanbeatthis - ALC can be taken alone, but it's benefits are much larger when used with Lipoic acid.

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Re: Acetyl-L-Carnitine

Post  halfempty on Mon May 25, 2009 3:15 pm

Before I workout I will usually take ALC without the ALA simply because I don't want my blood sugar levels to drop too low while I am exercising.

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Re: Acetyl-L-Carnitine

Post  Prague on Tue May 26, 2009 9:42 am

halfempty

this is what i do, carnitine before and ALA/creatine after workout - this combo has a huuge anabolic effect - then some l-glutamine and colostrum with a banana/protein shake or meal

i used to take too much supplements and feel it's a good idea to find those being usefull for hair and physical performance - i found out that most of them are

i know that IH wouldn't agree but i think l-glutamine is a great supplment - for HGH production, inflammation and oxidation, almost the same for colostrum

IH, i have a couple of questions for you if you dont' mind

why do you think inositol is useless?
what do you think about POTABA? it's used to treat SCLERODERMA there's an evidence it grows hair
would you agree that supplementation of potassium/magnesium (with optimal thyroid function) could cure hairloss?
what was your experience with damiana?
does THC lower T production? I've read the contradictory studies...
do you agree that a topical potassium could grow hair?
do you agree that western bodies are full of uselles calcium that might play a role in MPB?

thank you

i appreciate this is the only site that doesn't blame and fight DHT uniquely, i fully agree that it's role is more of a messenger than cause

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Re: Acetyl-L-Carnitine

Post  CausticSymmetry on Tue May 26, 2009 7:51 pm

Prague - I do agree that glutamine is useful, especially for HGH and digestion, inflammation. It's essential for any inflammatory bowel disease also.

Potaba is potassium salt of PABA (Para-aminobenzoate) and is essentially the same thing. As far as PABA that requires large doses, usually 8 to 12 grams. The last double-blind trial yielded no results, but there were some improvements in studies prior on both Scleroderma and Peyronie's Disease (Curvature of the penis caused by fibrosis).

In the case of the later, which effects more people than Scleroderma there is an excess interaction of platelets to collagen causing excess coagulation often followed by upregulation of TGF-beta1 which initiates eventual scaring. PABA or Potaba is believed to be antifibrotic.

In the case of Peyronies Disease and Dupuytren's contracture, using DMSO mixed with SSKI (super saturated potassium iodide) is an effective topical treatment for lessening the fibrosis and improve mobility of these areas.

In these diseases including Scleroderma it seems it is a problem of excessive platelet adhesion to collagen. This process causes not just increased coagulation but a build-up of fibrin and then excessive inflammatory molecules since high deposition of fibrin initiates an inflammatory stage which usually remains chronic. This condition also sets up a stage for inhibition of plasmin.

I think one possible internal answer to this is enteric coated Serrapeptase.

I think it's very possible that Magnesium and Potassium apart or together can help with hair loss.

Potassium can decrease excess aldosterone, which is implicated in hypertension with high androgens.

An environment that is low in Magnesium increases aging and generation of reactive oxygen species. It's also a way to manage elevated aldosterone levels.

I may have had a mild effect (libido wise) with Damiana but I didn't take it long enough. What are you thoughts about it so far?

Regarding THC, it's not sure. There is research that shows than exocannabinoids such as THC have a regulatory effect in hair cycles, but whether it is negative or not isn't clear. I also wonder how eating things with THC would effect it since it would stay in the system much longer.

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