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Post  Xenon on Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:15 am

The following diagram basically shows the areas of the scalp which I sleep on. The temporalis muscle and the occipitalis muscle - in part - act as cushions to capillaries and follicles. This is also, partially, the reason why baldness never occurs at the lower back and sides of the head. Additionally, these muscles have lots of adipose tissue covering them, which also act as cushioning to follicles. The galea has no muscles and very little adipose tissue, so the follicles there are pressed against the solid skull bones. This can lead to ischemia and pressure induced alopecia -- which I believe plays a huge role in androgenetic alopecia.



And remember to always make sure your house (especially bedroom) has plenty of ventilation to allow in fresh air. Your home is prone to low oxygen volume because heated air generated from heating appliances contains less oxygen, and high levels of waste C02 gases breathed out from yourself and multiple persons in the house make for a hypoxic atmosphere, which consequently cause follicles of the galea to generate more inflammatory lactic acid.
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Post  stresssucks on Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:38 pm

Interested for more information on the oxygen stuff. Is that a for-sure connection?

Is ventilation the only answer? house plants?

Living in a city makes you more prone in general because there is less oxygen because less plants and more people?

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Post  bov51 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:07 pm

thnx, xenon, imma try sleeping like this from now on. Man, Im literally throwing everything but the kitchen sink at hair loss.



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the only thing Im missing is getting a good sleep..







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Post  Xenon on Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:32 am

stresssucks wrote:Interested for more information on the oxygen stuff. Is that a for-sure connection?

Is ventilation the only answer? house plants?

Living in a city makes you more prone in general because there is less oxygen because less plants and more people?

Next time you're in a room with no ventilation, and where there is a heating appliance, take notice of your scalp and how much it inflames. C02 retention + lower oxygen volume due to heated air = hypoxia. The more persons in a poor ventilated room = increased C02.

As for plants... they absorb C02, but keeping windows slightly ajar here and there let's in plenty of air. I say here and there because I know how cold it can get. Also too much oxygen can lead to oxygen toxicity, ROS formation, etc, but it goes beyond saying that balanced amounts are essential for life.

And the point you made about the city - yes, as well as carbon monoxide from traffic pollution. You ever notice you get headaches and feel exhausted after a trip to the busy city center? I believe this is mainly caused by so much C02 / CO.
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Post  Xenon on Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:52 am

boogv510 wrote:thnx, xenon, imma try sleeping like this from now on. Man, Im literally throwing everything but the kitchen sink at hair loss.



no fap
peats diet
IH top 6 with taurine/thyroid hormone/aspirin/d3/niacimaide
breathing through my nose
taping my mouth when sleeping
Dt
caffiene/nacinamide/aspirin topical

the only thing Im missing is getting a good sleep..







Yeh, I fucking hate it, but might as well just keep soldiering on. Some terminals have come through... see what happens next.

The funny thing is, we probably know more about baldness than a conventional trichologist, yet are still afflicted with this problem.
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Post  bov51 on Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:11 am

Xenon wrote:
boogv510 wrote:thnx, xenon, imma try sleeping like this from now on. Man, Im literally throwing everything but the kitchen sink at hair loss.



no fap
peats diet
IH top 6 with taurine/thyroid hormone/aspirin/d3/niacimaide
breathing through my nose
taping my mouth when sleeping
Dt
caffiene/nacinamide/aspirin topical

the only thing Im missing is getting a good sleep..







Yeh, I fucking hate it, but might as well just keep soldiering on. Some terminals have come through... see what happens next.

The funny thing is, we probably know more about baldness than a conventional trichologist, yet are still afflicted with this problem.


How the heck do you sleep with your galea hanging out of the pillow like the bottom right, its so uncomfortable. I tried folding my pillow in half horizontally so it becomes a lot shorter but the pillow was way too hard and high.

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Post  bov51 on Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:25 am

also, xenon, check this out

"I keep getting emails from guys who read a thread I created on here about male pattern baldness some months ago. I have since discovered more things in regards to the causes of this problem, so I will share what I since discovered, with you.

In 2004 or 5 I discovered that DHT was a culprit in the onset of male pattern baldness, and patients who took an anti-DHT pill to treat hairloss reported loss of sex drive. So, I surmised there was a link between DHT production and sex drive, and assumed that giving up masturbating would cause DHT levels to drop and allow my hair to grow back.

So, back in 2004 or 5, I refrained from masturbating for 3 or 4 months, and to my great surprise I started to notice small blonde hairs growing on my hairline where it was previously bald. As time went by, more hair regrew and became thicker and darker. However, I soon slipped back into my old ways of excessive masturbation and my hair began to recede again. I have decided to re-embark on my program, but this time - along with my new discoveries - I am going to see it right through until my hair is completely restored.

Please excuse me if you're already familiar with the information contained in this paragraph, but just to briefly explain why excessive masturbating can contribute to male pattern baldness: Each time we become sexually aroused, the prostate gland produces an enzyme called 5 alpha reductase. This Enzyme converts testosterone into dyhydrotestosterone -- a more potent version of regular testosterone. OK, so when we masturbate, heart rate naturally increases and so does body heat. 35 to 40% of body heat is released from small sweat glands attached to the hair follicles of the scalp; this is why we feel lots of heat around our temples/hairlines when we masturbate or when we do any other physical activity which causes us to produce body heat.

Now each time this DHT filled blood rushes to the head, DHT is prone to building up within the blood vessels connecting to the follicles and therefore causing clogging. This clogging doesn't solely happen through masturbating, but other contributory factors are involved as I will now delve into.

In addition to the DHT/masturbating dilemma, I discovered something else, which I advise you to take serious notice of: the scalp contains two muscle groups we lay on when we sleep. Hair loss never occurs where these muscles are situated.

Please click on these links and look at the muscles I am talking about:

[link to dmmassage.com]

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Notice the familiar egg-in-the-nest effect when a man goes through the advanced stages of pattern baldness, i.e., the hair disappears at the top, but remains around the lower back and sides? The temporalis muscle and the occiptalis muscle provide lots of oxygen to the hairs situated on the layers of skin covering these muscles, so DHT is easily metabolised here and doesn't clog the follicles. However, there are no muscle groups in the upper region of the scalp, so oxygen levels are minimal compared to the lower scalp, thus making it more prone to DHT clogging.

This upper region is called the Galea Aponeurotica:

[link to images.corriere.it]

Now, consider this: how long do we sleep on average? Around about 8 hours per night, yes? Now the head is the heaviest part of the body, and if follicles are heavily compressed by the weight of our heads against a pillow for 8 hours per night, oxygen and blood circulation would be massively reduced to them.

DHT builds up as you sleep because your hairline and upper scalp is compressed against a pillow. So, if you want DHT to clear from your scalp and achieve hair regrowth, you must not sleep on this vulnerable area of the scalp. Instead, fix your pillows so that you are sleeping only on the scalp muscles provided in the links, and allow the galea to hang over the edge of your pillow.

When we sleep on the upper temples a large artery situated around the hairline (the temporalis artery) is compressed against the pillow. When this artery is compressed against a pillow for the whole time we sleep metabolism is lowered to the surrounding cells and DHT is more prone to building up and clogging (this is why our hairlines begin to recede, due to the temples being compressed against the pillow).

The problem is made worse if you masturbate just before you go to sleep because this DHT filled blood goes to the scalp, and your scalp can't metabolize this DHT because it is compressed against a pillow for hours. So if you have to masturbate on that rare occasion, make sure you NEVER do it before you go to bed, instead do it when your metabolism is active so that blood will effectively circulate and minimize the chances of DHT build up in the scalp.

Also - very importantly: when you're sleeping, make sure that your bedroom is well ventilated, so that fresh oxygen is always being supplied to your cells, otherwise you will be breathing in waste carbon dioxide gases you've breathed out. When carbon dioxide is breathed in, it forms into carbonic acid in the blood. Any cells which have difficulty in receiving oxygen will be prone to carbon acid build up, and will begin to inflame.

Now, the follicles of the scalp (of baldinng men) are oxygen deficient because they are clogged with DHT, so they will be highly prone to the effects of carbonic acid, and thus will be first to become inflamed.You may have noticed that when you're losing your hair you experience a prickly stinging sensation around your hairline or any area where hairloss occurs; this is caused by carbonic acid inflaming your follicles, due to (oxygen deficiency). Simply put airloss causes hairloss.

While we're on the subject of sleep; I have to tell you that it is very, very important to get to bed early, especially after a long, hard day day at work. If you burn the midnight oil too much, then you are prone to exhaustion and premature aging because you're body is in oxygen/nutrient debt; carbonic acid will build up in cells and you will suffer worse hairloss. So if you want carbonic acids to be kept very low, then you must make sure that oxygen levels are completely restored to your cells, and this is achieved through plenty of sleep.

Another theory in the onset of baldness (which I agree is a major contributory factor) is skull size. When the skull is larger than average the skin of the scalp will be slightly tighter than normal, which would naturally lower the levels of blood circulation and therefore oxygen to cells. And as I previously explained, cells lower in oxygen are more prone to carbonic acid build up. And let's not forget, cells lower in oxygen will have lower metabolism, circulation will be slower and DHT clogging is more likely. But if you sleep without the galea (upper temples and scalp) compressed against a pillow, then circulation will be increased to the galea and DHT will begin clear away.

Also, over production of adrenaline can lead to a tighter scalp because adrenaline acts as a vasoconstrictor to skin cells, and a vasodilator to skeletal muscles. So... adrenaline lowers blood circulation to skin cells, and increases it to muscle groups. If adrenaline is not discharged from the body (via physical activity), then it will naturally build up and make the skin become tighter.

You may have noticed that in bald men the scalp looks shinier than men who have hair. This shininess occurs because of tightness largely caused by adrenaline making the skin cells tighter. When we are chronically stressed out we produce more adrenaline, which then causes heart rate and blood pressure to increase. When this happens blood rushes to the head in order to release body heat from the small sweat glands attached to the follicles, and so the skin of the scalp becomes a target site for adrenaline build up, thus causing the follicles to enter into a permanent state of contraction.

So, in a nutshell:

1) Masturbate as little as possible to reduce DHT build up within the scalp.

2) Never sleep on the galea aponeurotica region of the scalp (always sleep on the scalp muscles), so that blood circulation increases to the hairline and upper scalp in general.

3) Always get plenty of sleep to restore oxygen levels to cells, so that carbonic acids are low.

4) Try to relax so that adrenaline levels are minimalized, and the cells of the upper scalp will dilate and allow more blood circulation.

5) (I forgot to touch upon this): Eat a healthy diet. Eating a healthy balanced diet really does help in making the hair healthy.

Hope this helps, and good luck.

P.S. if you want any more free advice my email is: lizardtheory@live.co.uk"

Man, I have always masturbate before bed, as long as I can remember.

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Post  Xenon on Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:35 am

boogv510 wrote:
Xenon wrote:
boogv510 wrote:thnx, xenon, imma try sleeping like this from now on. Man, Im literally throwing everything but the kitchen sink at hair loss.



no fap
peats diet
IH top 6 with taurine/thyroid hormone/aspirin/d3/niacimaide
breathing through my nose
taping my mouth when sleeping
Dt
caffiene/nacinamide/aspirin topical

the only thing Im missing is getting a good sleep..







Yeh, I fucking hate it, but might as well just keep soldiering on. Some terminals have come through... see what happens next.

The funny thing is, we probably know more about baldness than a conventional trichologist, yet are still afflicted with this problem.


How the heck do you sleep with your galea hanging out of the pillow like the bottom right, its so uncomfortable. I tried folding my pillow in half horizontally so it becomes a lot shorter but the pillow was way too hard and high.

I use two pillows - a large one underneath, a small one on top. I find it comfortable to sleep on.

P.S. I created that GLP thread a few years ago, but no longer ascribe so much with the dht clogging theory. The clogging theory was popular and widely held as true back in the day. It made sense at the time, but it doesn't matter so much, I still believe in most of the stuff I posted back then.
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Post  . on Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:53 pm

I haven't been following this, so probably missed it, but did you consider just not using a pillow? Here's something off the first page of Google to illustrate what I'm thinking: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119282/

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Post  Xenon on Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:44 am

Unim wrote:I haven't been following this, so probably missed it, but did you consider just not using a pillow? Here's something off the first page of Google to illustrate what I'm thinking: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119282/

Interesting. I'm no expert on the best sleeping position, I just know that I would awaken with inflammation within the temple I had been sleeping on the most. Signs of inflammation in the balded out area + information on pressure alopecia, led me to believe that this played a role in hairline recession. Since removing this problem, as well as no fap, inflammation has stopped and terminals are regrowing. Therefore, both factors must have a synergistic relationship in causing hair to thin.

P.S. I'm going to try sleeping with the lower back and sides of my head on my arm or my palm... see what that's like. It might actually be ideal for keeping the galea free of pressure.
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Post  Xenon on Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:39 pm

Something else I forgot to add here; when the temples are hanging over the pillow there is an additional benefit; the downward force of gravity would also help cells to decompress because the downward drag would pull tissue away from the skull. This would be the equivalent of doing hand stands to attempt alleviate the effects of gravity, yet it is more effortless.

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Post  sanderson on Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:15 am

hey Xenon, I think this would be a really strong exercise to do in addition to your regimen. It targets the same kind of thing.

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Post  goten574 on Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:43 am

If this is true why dont all men go Bald? And why hardly any women? We all probably sleep on a typical pillow with the balding areas pressed against the pillow.
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Post  Xenon on Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:36 am

I said I was going to take time out from the boards, but I received a notification via email, so I'll just reply briefly.

@Sanderson, thanks for the video, I'll check it out as soon as I log out.

@Goten, I've stressed before, that I don't consider the pillow issue the primary baldness trigger, rather one that can and does cause damage to matrix cells. The main factor is likely genetic sensitivity to DHT which triggers inflammation within these hair growing cells. When both factors are combined, they cause increased inflammation.

Try this out and you'll see that what I am talking about holds substance... rest your galea against a hard surface for a couple of hours and observe thereafter how inflamed and sensitive the compressed area becomes. Just try it out, then report back to the thread... repeat it a few more times, and watch how your hair starts to thin very rapidly.

Obviously a pillow is softer than a solid surface, but still causes compression to cells - due to the lack of adipose cushioning throughout the galea.
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Post  Xenon on Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:58 pm

Wasim wrote:I haven't been following this, so probably missed it, but did you consider just not using a pillow? Here's something off the first page of Google to illustrate what I'm thinking: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119282/

This is much more effective (and natural) than sleeping with the galea hanging over the pillow, except I've made a few modifications. I sleep with my temporalis muscle on the palm of my hand; with my other hand I put it under my neck for added support. I still use a pillow so that my hands are not crushed from the weight of my head. My temples make no contact with the pillow when sleeping like this.

Very interestingly the span of the palm fits flushly with the temporalis muscle, and the palms have plenty of adipose tissue for cushioning, so it doesn't feel uncomfortable when resting the side of the head on them.
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Post  harechallenge on Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:36 pm

I'm  sleeping with the foot of bed  raised about 3." This slight inversion should lead to more circulation to brain and scalp.   I read  there is added HGH stimulation this way as well as better spinal decompression and leg stretch. By the time I'm waking up my head is creeping over the top edge of the bed, though  I fell asleep with head far from edge.
I got the basic idea from a height forum person , but it also makes some sense for scalp and hair. This may be risky if you have acid reflux, heart problems or other issues.  With my head inching towards the edge, there is no force on my dome.
My feet point towards sunset and head is east towards sunrise when sleeping. I don't believe the east-west position is science but I sleep well that way sunrise.

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