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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  sanderson on Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:25 am

what was your experience with methylene blue? i'm thinking about taking it to lower prolactin as much as possible, but not sure about dosing or anything.
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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:27 am

yes, probably not the best for prolactin if being honest.

you could experiment with prescription meds, bromocriptine

maybe b6

maybe vitex

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Post  ElmoSuper8 on Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:52 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:isn't it fairly obvious what I do based on my previous posts ???

anyone could quite easily work out my diet and supplement regimen

No, that's what I'm saying - it's hard to know your supplement regimen because you seem to change it so often.

I respect the fact that you're trying to help people and promote action, but sorry, my perspective is that if someone has solved their hair loss and getting regrowth as you have claimed, then where's the harm in writing an EXACT list of the supplements you take every day?

I can honestly tell you that if I had achieved the success you have achieved I would have no problem producing such a list of the supplements I was taking, and the exact meals I was eating every day.

I appreciate that everyone's health status is different and therefore the reasons for their hair loss differ as well, but at the same time I'm sure there is a commonality between the reasons why me and everyone else on this forum lose hair. So the point I'm trying to make is - if you were to write an exact list of your supplement regimen, I and others wouldn't just blindly follow you and take whatever you're taking, rather we would have a better understanding as to the reasons for your success, and we could investigate your supplements further and decide if they are right for us.

You say you like to provide simplified information to help people. That's why my suggestion is an exact list of your supplements as nothing could be simpler and more to the point than that.

But like I say, I'm not trying to argue with you here at all. If you would rather not, then that's cool. Thanks for your advice so far.

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:47 am

To understand pgd2, you must understand that each drop of fat is stored in the body for 4 years .

Prostaglandins are only produced from unsaturated oil - soybean,sunflower oil,margarine, flax oil, hemp oil, etc.

Fish oil does not produce prostaglandins because it is even more unsaturated than the oils mentioned above.
"because the more highly unsaturated long chain fats interfere with the conversion of linoleic acid into arachidonic acid and prostaglandins. "

When sunflower oil or soybean oil leaves the tissue, it temporarily wrecks metabolism and raises the stress hormones.

Storing it is actually safer, however it will continually produce pgd2.

niacin raises pgd2 if you have unsaturated fat in your body because it forces the unsaturated fat out of the body.

vitamin e may turn it into saturated fat

caffeine is similar to niacin in action.

taurine and zinc may also block the PUFA

coconut oil to replace the harmful oil from the body, coconut oil and butter cannot produce prostaglandins.

carnitine forces the body to burn fat which may cause problems
niacinamide/aspirin block you from burning fat, and may block prostaglandins

animal foods fed corn and soy are also problematic. So literally everyone has been exposed to soybean oil,sunflower oil or another toxic oil at one point


A final point on this entire thread :
these are just the main options. just do something. always take action. I literally could not make the information simpler I tried.

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Post  Growdamnit on Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:34 am

So, by aboiding all of these nut/seed oils, it will take at least 4 years to see any improvement is what you're saying?

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:29 pm

No.

it may take less than 4 years if taking the supplements/foods mentioned.

if you just did nothing and lived a normal life, then yes, the body will replace the fat cells only every 4 years.

you need to take action.

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:10 pm

more thoughts :

dht - increasing it is a good idea. a potent youthening substance . direct sunlight on the testicles can increase it
pregnenelone - decreases estrogen. very safe. also increases progesterone and DHEA. oral capsules work too.
progesterone - risky to increase by itself . only topical also.
dhea - also risky to increase by itself

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Post  ElmoSuper8 on Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:42 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:more thoughts :

dhea - also risky to increase by itself

What are the side effects?

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:50 am

Increasing pregnenelone may be a safer route to normalise DHEA and progresterone

dangers are it may convert to cortisol and maybe estrogen , so caution or complete avoidance is advised, even though it has benefits.




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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:03 am

a simple, whole body approach :

a,d,e, k2 - as liquid drops

taurine, lysine, glycine
b1, b2,b3, b6, biotin

dostinex - pharma drug to reduce prolactin
pregnenelone - a youth hormone
progesterone, only progest e - (see thread on finasteride is a synthetic progesterone) - reduces estrogen
cyproheptadine - reduce serotonin / theanine may also work.

coconut oil, butter, - displace pgd2
grass fed meat
coffee

no cottonseed oil, rapeseed oil, sunflower oil, canola oil etc etc

anything more than this, is optional and experimental.


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Post  sanderson on Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:28 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:a simple, whole body approach :

a,d,e, k2 - as liquid drops

taurine, lysine, glycine
b1, b2,b3, b6, biotin

dostinex - pharma drug to reduce prolactin
pregnenelone - a youth hormone
progesterone, only progest e -  (see thread on finasteride is a synthetic progesterone) - reduces estrogen
cyproheptadine - reduce serotonin / theanine may also work.

coconut oil, butter, - displace pgd2
grass fed meat
coffee

no cottonseed oil, rapeseed oil, sunflower oil, canola oil etc etc

anything more than this, is optional and experimental.


thyroid hormone, methyelene blue, aspirin, red light
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Post  Growdamnit on Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:11 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:a simple, whole body approach :

a,d,e, k2 - as liquid drops

taurine, lysine, glycine
b1, b2,b3, b6, biotin

dostinex - pharma drug to reduce prolactin
pregnenelone - a youth hormone
progesterone, only progest e -  (see thread on finasteride is a synthetic progesterone) - reduces estrogen
cyproheptadine - reduce serotonin / theanine may also work.

coconut oil, butter, - displace pgd2
grass fed meat
coffee

no cottonseed oil, rapeseed oil, sunflower oil, canola oil etc etc

anything more than this, is optional and experimental.

Best source for E?

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:16 pm

sanderson wrote:

thyroid hormone, methyelene blue, aspirin, red light

yes, they may also help.

Growdamnit wrote:

Best source for E?

i am not sure. it's difficult to find a good one

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Post  Growdamnit on Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:43 pm

You're serious? You advocate it but don't take it?

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:47 pm

oh wait, isolated vitamin e ?

i take a 4 in 1 product, 1 drop a day, estroban

i don't know of any "just vitamin e" products

progest e contains vitamin e though

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Post  YARO on Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:09 pm

Isn't Toco-Sorb a good vitamin E, it has all 8 isomers.

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Post  Shinobi on Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:18 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:
TheDivineMarquis wrote:
rofl wrote:i lol'ed

Wouldn`t regimens 2 and 4, at least, prevent/delay further hair loss?

in theory yes,

in practice, people still lose hair and don't regrow hair with them

and regarding topical oils, I don't reccomend any after using them for 5 years

how do you even know DHT causes hair loss ? it's just a theory

also regimen 5 :

do the same thing over and over and expect different results. most people do this.

Come on.. All studies show the same: put DHT in a media and see what happen to your DPs : increase of DKK1, tgfb, PGD2, and a very deep depletion in WNT. If you add the WNT with the DHT, the WNT expression is turn back off.

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:49 am

these are your options

whatever you do is up to you,

see the propecia / progesterone thread I made,


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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  Shinobi on Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:07 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:these are your options

whatever you do is up to you,

see the propecia / progesterone thread I made,

No you are right, we need to avoid these substance and play on the pathway: block DKK1, inhibited nuclear translocation of the androgen receptor stimulated by dihydrotestosterone in human dermal papilla cells using plant extract, fight the metabolic syndrome, take care of the thyroid using iodin etc. I like alternative treatment.

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:27 pm

experiment with everything,

i don't know what causes hair loss

but i can tell you

finasteride
Spironolactone
Cyproterone acetate
Medroxyprogesterone

are synthetic progestins,

and raypeat wrote a lot about progesterone

and how they connect to hair loss

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:38 am

actually peat never wrote about how they connect to hair loss

but he wrote about the synthetic progestins, which the people on hairloss forums take


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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  hairmaniac on Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:07 am

Hello iuyyighghghgkh, thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Whats your opinion on fruits? Do you eat any? If so which fruits you think are the best?

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  sanderson on Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:29 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:experiment with everything,

i don't know what causes hair loss

but i can tell you

finasteride
Spironolactone
Cyproterone acetate
Medroxyprogesterone

are synthetic progestins,

and raypeat wrote a lot about progesterone

and how they connect to hair loss

dont people take progesterone
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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:12 am

what are you asking

no, most people take the wrong form of progesterone,

most people on hair loss forums take the synthetic ones, and i provided evidence in the propecia thread of a person using Cyproterone acetate and Medroxyprogesterone , which are shockingly similar to finasteride

fruit is fine

all the same poison

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12749435
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15464773

they are taking synthetic progesterone, which is poison and raypeat wrote about it.

normal progesterone is used by men and actually INCREASES dht, i quoted the study in the propecia thread, about 5 th post down


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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:34 am

actually the title of this thread is wrong, rather these are experimental ideas. there's a lot out there to be discovered

basic summary for people wishing to experiment :

youthening substances :

a,d,e, k2
b1,b1, b3, b6, biotin

caffeine, methylene blue, aspirin
progesterone, dhea, pregnenelone, DHT - yes, high DHT is good
t3/t4
magnesium/ zinc, copper,
taurine, lysine, glycine -  shellfish/ oysters are good for this


unscientific stuff to avoid :

raw cacao, goji, maca, theaflavins, moringa, super berries, magic berries,
chia seeds, Tongkat Ali, superfood smoothies, Baobab  etc etc.  it won't regrow hair.

bad hormones and pathways to lower and research :
Cortisol,
estrogen,
serotonin
melatonin
prolactin  -

nfkb   - taurine.
TGFB1 - taurine
pgd2   -  
parathyroid hormone -
aldosterone -

synthetic progestins to avoid , used on hair loss forums by nearly everyone :

Cyproterone acetate
Medroxyprogesterone
finasteride
spiro

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