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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  Columbo on Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:42 pm

I do horrible on milk, especially the pasteurized stuff
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Post  australian on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:31 pm

A vegan diet won't cause hair loss IF you are doing it the right way. Unfortunately, this is harder than it seems and I think that people rarely get their full dietary requirements by being vegan. It is so hard to get a sufficient intake of protein and iron from a vegan diet, and I think it's very apparent that our hair needs these two things to stay healthy.

Most of the vegans I know live off crap like tinned baked beans and bread and rarely eat green vegies.

I used to be vegetarian myself.
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Post  gorilla_power on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:32 pm

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:always get lab test before and after


regimen 1 :

vitamins a, d, e k2
individual b vitamins, but niacinamide preferable
taurine, lysine, glycine, proline
coconut oil

topical red light and generic caffeine shampoo


regimen 2 :
Ecklonia cava
Curcumin, Trans-Resveratrol
Krill Oil
Na-RALA/carnitine
k2, silica, MSM
heavy metal detox regimen
magnesium/ selenium/ zinc copper


regimen 3 :

minoxidil
finasteride

regimen 4 :
beta sitosterol
saw palmetto
nettle extract
he shou wu
schizandra berries
green tea
aloe vera topically

increase/decrease :

decrease :

reduce (cysteine, methionine ,tryptohpan) with glycine and ruminant/gelatin meats instead
aldosterone :reduce aldosterone via salt consumption
reduce nitric oxide with lysine,
pgd2 - minimise PUFA oils.
serotonin - deplete with taurine. avoiding flesh / eating organs/gelatin.  
estrogen - vitamin d can lower estrogen
prolactin - lower with salt. also consume more calcium than phosphate. vitamin b6
limit excess iron - give blood if necessary.

eat a normal diet, trying to replace flesh with organs/ruminant and using butter/coconut oil instead of other oil


really that's it.

complexity is the enemy of execution

MSM will clog your gut with sulphur.I am 13 days on grapes and others have done 100+days  grape juice fasts and got out lifetime of sulphur inside the body.

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:51 am

who cares about MSM ?

fasting is dangerous

people lose hair on extreme diets and extreme things like fasting for a reason,

you dont have to drink milk. Look at the philosophy, not the exact information.

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Post  Growdamnit on Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:04 am

Uh...a boatload of people care about MSM. CS says it's one of the most important supplements.

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:08 am

MSM is a questionable supplement, and not a top 6 supplement

and anyone who just wanted to regrow hair, would not be a vegan at all. don't shoot yourself in the foot.

look into the haidut topicals, they are very interesting supplements


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Post  Growdamnit on Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:34 am

I was losing hair when I ate animal products.

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:54 pm

I always believed extreme dieting could cause hair loss.


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Post  Growdamnit on Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:51 pm

I'm sure it can, but when you meet all vitamin/mineral expectations, you shouldn't have a problem.

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Post  SonofOdin on Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:57 pm

We are hunter gatherers. I firmly believe that consuming foods that our bodies have over many, many years evolved to extract nutrients from, is a key aspect of good health. Neglect an entire piece of this dietary puzzle such as vegetarianism, and you're asking for trouble. I'd say the 'manly men' who refuse to eat veggies are equally as unhealthy as the guys who shun meat.

Science is proving that there is more than just your macro and micro nutrient profile to worry about. So if a vegetarian claims to be getting all of their nutrients on check, sure I believe them. The ones that show up on nutrition labels and such. But what about the gelatin. What about certain amino acid profiles, and for those who shun green veggies what about all the phyto nutrients you're missing out on. Not to mention all the new discoveries that are likely to show up as time goes by...

We're going through a shitty situation all of us, and the kneejerk reaction is to do something extreme, but like most things in life moderation is key.
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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:07 am

the minimalist approach :


supplements :

a,d,e, k2, magnesium
taurine 1000mg capsule
lysine powder 10,000mg in fruit juice
glycine powder to hot drinks,
b vitamin supplements

diet :
snacks :
coffee with cream,
60% high quality chocolate

fruit juice
cheese

main meal :
white rice/ mash potatoes with butter/coconut oil,
bone marrow/oxtail for meat,not steak

treats :
jackson's potato chips
high quality 4 ingredient ice cream (haagen daaz)


less is more

no nuts/seeds/grains or "vegetables"

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Post  NW0 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:36 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:Unless you you get blood tests and lab work, no you shouldn't just use anything

as you don't even believe minoxidil and finasteride work, obviously you would have a hard time believing anything else would either

Don't get cooked in the squat - many people just wait around and do nothing and carry on waiting for a solution and never take action.

Bloodworks aren't enough, in fact they are useless if you don't know your methylation pathways at a genetic level. You may be taking vitamin D or B or whatever, when it's not necessary for you. Maybe recomending superdosing with D3 is a big mistake for someone, same for a complex of B etc... things are way more complication we think, unfortunately.

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Post  NW0 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:39 am

Growdamnit wrote:I can't imagine how you could get to the point of actually taking propecia. How fucking stupid are some people?
Hairloss makes people lose their mind. It's perfectly understandable that one may end up playing the russian roulette, because some people regrow hair and don't get any sides after 10 years+ of usage. Hairloss is the end of attraction, a true tragedy.

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:37 am

methylation pathways are a form of bloodwork, perhaps not as important though

get the main tests

dht
testosterone
vitamin d
parathyroid
estrogen
serotonin
prolactin
etc etc

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Post  Growdamnit on Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:37 am

So is marijuana bad for serotonin or prolactin?

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:00 am

Growdamnit wrote:So is marijuana bad for serotonin or prolactin?

it's questionable. smoked or baked ? smoking anything increases estrogen, baked may be okay.

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Post  Gates on Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:21 am

NW0 wrote:Hairloss is the end of attraction, a true tragedy.

Man, I'm straight bald. Like shiny bald. Not even a dot of hair on my head bald.

I get attraction from women without fucking trying.

That's not because I look like Brad Pitt either.

Just saying so to point out how utterly wrong you are. I mean really, really wrong.

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Post  Growdamnit on Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:26 am

Gates wrote:
NW0 wrote:Hairloss is the end of attraction, a true tragedy.

Man, I'm straight bald. Like shiny bald. Not even a dot of hair on my head bald.

I get attraction from women without fucking trying.

That's not because I look like Brad Pitt either.

Just saying so to point out how utterly wrong you are. I mean really, really wrong.
I agree. I don't care if I'm balding or not, ladies know I'm alpha as fuck.

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Post  Xenon on Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:26 am

Gates wrote:
NW0 wrote:Hairloss is the end of attraction, a true tragedy.

Man, I'm straight bald. Like shiny bald. Not even a dot of hair on my head bald.

I get attraction from women without fucking trying.

That's not because I look like Brad Pitt either.

Just saying so to point out how utterly wrong you are. I mean really, really wrong.

If you're in great shape, tanned, and shave it all off, I agree with you. I've mentioned before, that when I shaved my head slick bald, I got so much female attraction, it was unreal. The only problem was, was the fact that I didn't like the look on myself. IDK I don't feel like me without any hair. But my receded NW 2.5 / 3 doesn't exactly do me any favours at this point either.
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Post  Sage 1 on Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:11 am

Cant help myself to interfere anymore, due to the topic.
Is your hair loss only for superficial reasons to gain your alpha male status?
Lets face it that media created how you should be, to fit in our shallow society.


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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:50 am

i think a person should study hair loss, for himself and for others in society

if you want to be your best self, yes, a full head of hair helps

also, these aren't your hair loss options ? you have found some alternative that no one else knows ?

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Post  NotThatPerfect on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:54 pm

Listen to Gates...

Hair regrowth is basically impossible.  All we can do is think longevity and quality of life.

Halting hairloss is a VERY unexpected bonus, so enjoy if that's the case.

And if any of you think sex with multiple attractive women is about your hairline, you obviously haven't been outside.

However, to strive for the aesthetic of your choice is perfectly fine as long as it's just that; a style you prefer, but ultimately speaks nothing to who you are as a man.

Get a 100 likes on your Facebook mirror selfie... Who cares?  Life's short and has depth, re-fucking-lax and have playful verbal and physical interactions when you can.  There is plenty of sex to go around, even for the socially conditioned pinnacle of unattractiveness.  Just shift 10% of your hairloss efforts onto talking to women Smile

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I am grateful for the groundless paranoia though LOL.  It's led to some pretty serious out-of-the-box research by some VERY smart guys on here.  The real fruit of your labor though is, again, over-all health.

Thanks!

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Post  4039 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:32 pm

NotThatPerfect wrote:Listen to Gates...

Hair regrowth is basically impossible.  All we can do is think longevity and quality of life.

Halting hairloss is a VERY unexpected bonus, so enjoy if that's the case.

And if any of you think sex with multiple attractive women is about your hairline, you obviously haven't been outside.

However, to strive for the aesthetic of your choice is perfectly fine as long as it's just that; a style you prefer, but ultimately speaks nothing to who you are as a man.

Get a 100 likes on your Facebook mirror selfie... Who cares?  Life's short and has depth, re-fucking-lax and have playful verbal and physical interactions when you can.  There is plenty of sex to go around, even for the socially conditioned pinnacle of unattractiveness.  Just shift 10% of your hairloss efforts onto talking to women Smile

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I am grateful for the groundless paranoia though LOL.  It's led to some pretty serious out-of-the-box research by some VERY smart guys on here.  The real fruit of your labor though is, again, over-all health.

Thanks!

Well stated. I like how you countered the rashness of some. Not that you took the high road, but you are taking the smarter road. Shoot for health and longevity, everything else is gravy. Start with your mitochondria and work your way forward. And don't let trolling, drama or bad science get in your way.

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Re: Your only hair loss options :

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:15 am

Bullcrap

Gates knows NOTHING about  longevity

Only places like longecity, peat and caustic symmetry have written about real increases in mitochondria for health and hair. Haidut also has some incredible work in offering alternative solutions for health and hair

See my new thread on methylene blue , updated with links, one man on longecity regrew hair with it

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Post  4039 on Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:02 am

You missed the point, but then it probably wasn't meant for you anyway.

And I've used methylene blue in the past, back when the few sources were fish supply stores. Any dye that stains the cells for prolonged periods can be protective and beneficial for mitochondrial activity. Guess what else is in that category? Astaxantin.

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