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Post  Maverick70 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:37 pm

Hi everyone,

I have been experiencing hair loss since I was like 17. in the beginning of 2014 I decided to try to solve this problem once and for all. I went to a place called the belgravia hair loss centre here in london UK and they gave a 3 month treatment that consisted of all of these things.

The description provided was taken from an email that they sent me

Minoxidil 10% + Azelaic Acid 5% cream
Minoxidil 10% + Azelaic Acid is Belgravia's unique extra-strength hair regrowth cream. Minoxidil is a licensed and medically proven treatment that works by increasing blood supply to the hair follicles. It is proven to prevent hair loss and regrow hair. As minoxidil is a dose dependent treatment, Belgravia's specialists have found that higher doses can dramatically increase results. Azelaic Acid is an anti-androgen, which means it helps to block DHT - the product in the body that causes hair loss, ensuring the increased blood flow is 'hair-friendly'. Our cream is specially designed for stubborn areas of hair loss such as a receding hairline or balding crown. The texture of the cream means you can directly target these stubborn areas to ensure maximum levels of hair restoration. Minoxidil 10% + Azelaic Acid is a prescription medication so please ensure you read the leaflet provided with the product before starting to use it.

Minoxidil 5% + MPG
Minoxidil 5% + MPG liquid is ideal for tackling general hair loss and will stabilise hair loss and regrow hair in most cases. Minoxidil is a clinically proven and licensed product that works by increasing blood circulation to the hair follicles. Medroxyprogesterone (MPG) is added to our liquid minoxidil to work as an anti-androgen, helping to block DHT locally around the follicles to ensure the blood being delivered to the follicles is fit to grow healthy hair. Minoxidil 5% + MPG is a prescription medication so please ensure you read the leaflet provided with the product before starting to use it.

In addition to this I used:

Hair Vitalics Healthy Hair Supplement

These are the ingredients in there: Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin B6, Folic Acid, Biotin, Iron Sulphate, Zinc Sulphate, L-Methionine, L-Cysteine, Methyl Sulfonyl Methane (MSM), Silica, Aloe Vera Extract, Saw Palmetto Extract, Ginkgo Biloba Extract, Millet Extract.

I dont have the bottle with me right now and in the website the doses are not stated so this is all the info I have regarding this.

HairMax LaserComb pro 12

I am not gonna lie. The results that I got in a 3 month period were amaaaaazing!(images provided)  But somehow I knew that I was putting my health at risk with this, so I opted out and went for a more natural route with no side effects, the treatment was very expensive as well (£1110 per year without including the hair comb nor the vitamin supplements)
Here are the images of the before and after (3 month period)







Last time I spoke to the hair specialist I wanted to try propecia instead of the minoxidil cream because of how convenient it would be, then I got my box of propecia, took one pill and threw it away into the bin and going to propeciahelp and reading all that bad stuff that has happened to people in there.

I am very happy that I found this forum, I have been reading stuff on other forums as well like the hairlosstalk forum and the hairlosshelp forum but never found one that was explicitly aimed at natural hair loss methods.

So after reading a lot in here I wanted something that would be very simple and that it wont take much of my time (I dont want this to consume me), something that I can do 2 or 3 times a week.

So here it is:

-Vitamin Code for men
-Wiley's finest wild alaskan liquid fish oil

Thats it.

I am looking to include the theradome helmet and use it 3x a week.

Thats about it to be honest.

What do you guys think of these and what do you guys think that I should add to this regimen.

Oh yeah, I also forgot to add that I have been having dandruff since I was like 14 or 15 (dont remember very well but I remember that I always had it), could this aid the hair loss process?? I ahve tried Head & Shoulders and it didnt help to be honest

Thank you very much in advance

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Post  CF on Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:35 pm

I would recommend adding the Immortal Hair regimen:

http://www.immortalhair.org/mpbregimen.htm



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Post  Maverick70 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:00 pm

CF wrote:I would recommend adding the Immortal Hair regimen:




thank you for your feedback, I have seen that before but I wanted a more minimalistic alternative if possible, I will probably replace my fish oil with some krill oil as it seems to be better absorbed by the body and i am also going to add a high quality probiotic

Note: I cannot add links because I need to wait 7 days

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Post  Maverick70 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:27 pm

also I forgot to mention that I am planning to do the atlas orthogonal treatment on my self, I dont know if a misaligned atlas contributes to hair loss but I think it does because it might restrict some of the blood flow going into the scalp, I have also had minor scoliosis for most of my life, I have misaligned shoulders and a leg shorter than the other (which all seems to be correlated with a misaligned atlas). In addition to that I am planning to get my jaw aligned, I have a cross bite and when I fully open my mouth the right side of my jaw clicks (it could be TMJ), there is a doctor that is specialised in cranio dental and skeletal symmetry in london called dr amir, I might go to him soon and see whats going on. Jaw symmetry and atlas alignment seem to be directly correlated.

I also had all my wisdom tooth removed about a year ago.

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Post  shaftless on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:17 am

I don't know what to think since the last 3 pics all have longer hair. Long hair has a way of covering things even if it is unintentional. And did you go gray already?

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Post  Maverick70 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:25 am

shaftless wrote:I don't know what to think since the last 3 pics all have longer hair. Long hair has a way of covering things even if it is unintentional. And did you go gray already?

I can assure you that I had regrowth during that period, I could feel it because when I am under light my scalp didnt show that much, but either way I am not trying to promote the hair centre (this is a natural hairloss community after all), I just wanted to show you my results with that treatment for some reason lol. And yes I am going graaaaayyy Sad Sad Sad  Is that bad news? I had been graying since I was like 17 or 18 and Im 22 now

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:15 am

Minoxidil - not supported by this forum
Palmetto - not recommended, harms the prostate, Google it for studies,
Fish oil not advised

Watch Roddy's video and if you agree, then take his advice



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Post  Maverick70 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:33 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:Minoxidil - not supported by this forum
Palmetto - not recommended, harms the prostate, Google it for studies,
Fish oil not advised

Watch Roddy's video and if you agree, then take his advice



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Gelatin

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Thanks for the feedback man ! I will add Gelatin to the list of supplements, I am familiar with danny roddy's work, I bought the "organising the panic" video course before he did the patreon thing. I actually have like 3 cans of Great Lakes Gelatin - Collagen Hydrolysate, I will be adding like 2 Tablespoons of that to the protein shakes that I take everyday. Regarding Vitamin K, spinach is what I use as my main source of vegetable most of the time and is also one of the foods that has the highest amount of vitamin K. So I think that will be good. How would you use coconut oil?

There are some things that I dont agree with him, dont get me wrong, he is a brilliant guy, super smart and backs everything he says with cold hard evidence but there are just some things that he recommends that just dont feel right for me

I stopped using minoxidil a loooooong time ago, it was just after the treatment that I stopped cold turkey

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:47 am

Fry in it

Add it to rice, potatoes etc

Replace minoxidil with caffeine/methylene blue topical

Read the site longecity for info on methylene blue
It mimics lllt

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Post  Maverick70 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:18 pm

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:Fry in it

Add it to rice, potatoes etc

Replace minoxidil with caffeine/methylene blue topical

Read the site longecity for info on methylene blue
It mimics lllt

I dont think I will need the methylene blue since I will be buying the theradome for LLLT.

Thank you again!

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Post  Maverick70 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:51 pm

I mentioned in my first post that I have had a lot of dandruff for as long as i know , could this be a contributing factor for hair loss ? they are also present in my beard and my face when it gets dry (it becomes flaky)

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Post  Maverick70 on Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:10 pm

Hi,

6 months ago I did a vitamin and mineral deficiency test using my hair sample. The results came out and I am deficient in all of these listed below:

-Betaine
-Bromelain
-Carotenoids
-Copper
-Docosahexaenoic Acid
-Gallic Acid
-Iso-flavonoids
-Lycopene
-Potassium
-Riboflavin (Vitamin B2)

thats it.

From the report I see that copper and riboflavin (vitamin B2) support the hair. The report also shows the foods that contain each mineral and vitamin that I am deficient at. I will do another test after adding 1 or 2 more foods into my daily intake and see what the results are.

These are all the vitamins and minerals that I am tested against.

http://www.testyourintolerance.com/pdf/nutrition-complete-list.pdf

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:25 am

I don't agree at all about being (anti-fish oil).

I was around on another forum before starting this one, and long before the Peat worship from others and have beaten hair loss before this nonsense took hold. 

Fact is, moderate dose fish oil (I prefer krill oil) reduces prostaglandin D2 (which is a major factor in hair loss). Only in excessive doses marine oil does it begin to interfere with oxygen transfer between cell membranes.

It further helps keep telomere length intact (by reducing inflammation) and also soaks up heavy metals. 

I am however, anti-vegetable/seed oil for cooking (but raw, natural intake is perfectly fine).

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Post  Maverick70 on Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:33 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:I don't agree at all about being (anti-fish oil).

I was around on another forum before starting this one, and long before the Peat worship from others and have beaten hair loss before this nonsense took hold. 

Fact is, moderate dose fish oil (I prefer krill oil) reduces prostaglandin D2 (which is a major factor in hair loss). Only in excessive doses marine oil does it begin to interfere with oxygen transfer between cell membranes.

It further helps keep telomere length intact (by reducing inflammation) and also soaks up heavy metals. 

I am however, anti-vegetable/seed oil for cooking (but raw, natural intake is perfectly fine).

-To be honest I never agreed with the anti-fish oil thing, when i heard about it from danny roddy and ray peat I felt weird because i have been taking it all my life.

-I only cook with grass-fed butter and coconut oil. There are other oils that dont oxidise at high temperatures but I dont remember which ones are they.

Thanks for the feedback CS. I really appreciate your response

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Post  Maverick70 on Mon May 02, 2016 7:27 am

How about the dandruff part? could that be a contributing factor to my hair loss ? If so what would be the best way to get rid of it? I have had it for as long as I can remember. I have also seen people doing some blood work and then people in the forum would asses their situation, where can I find more info regarding this ?

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Post  Maverick70 on Mon May 09, 2016 9:50 am

I am planning to add dermarolling into my regimen. What do you guys think about it?

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Post  Maverick70 on Sat May 21, 2016 7:29 am

I have seen people here post about their blood test results, what should I be tested on ?

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Post  johndoe1225 on Sat May 21, 2016 8:55 am

http://www.hairloss-research.org/UpdateRogaineShed9-09.html

I hate Minox, it enslaves you for life.

But as long as you continue with it:

http://www.hairloss-research.org/UpdateEmuOilHairGrowthStudyPublishedinPrestigiousJournalsMay2015.html

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Post  Maverick70 on Sat May 21, 2016 8:56 am

johndoe1225 wrote:http://www.hairloss-research.org/UpdateRogaineShed9-09.html

I hate Minox, it enslaves you for life.

But as long as you continue with it:

http://www.hairloss-research.org/UpdateEmuOilHairGrowthStudyPublishedinPrestigiousJournalsMay2015.html

I stopped using minoxidil a long time ago. It worked really well at the time but I want to have a more natural approach to this

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Post  Maverick70 on Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:49 am



For now this is the supplement stack that I have been using lately.

-Vitamin code for Men (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00280M14I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) (4 capsules daily)
-Krill Oil capsules (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001M4B3FE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) (2 capsules daily)
- Probiotics (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NR1T6D6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) (2 capsules daily)
-Ashwaghanda (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003PGE98K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) (1 capsule daily)

For topical i have been using this.

- Hair tonic (http://www.weleda.co.uk/haircare/revitalising-hair-tonic-100ml/invt/103024) (Day and night)
- Shampoo (https://www.amazon.co.uk/john-masters-organics-Lavender-Rosemary/dp/B0015YSNUE/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1464724048&sr=8-1&keywords=john+masters+organics) (Once a week)
- Conditioner (https://www.amazon.co.uk/john-masters-organics-Intensive-Conditioner/dp/B0013LN56G/ref=pd_sbs_194_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=31-dIT3h0oL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=3FS5DV607CWQMAW25PN2) (Once a week after shampooing ).

I am planning to get a LLLT helmet as well as a derma roller.

What is your opinion regarding all of this?

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Post  Maverick70 on Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:49 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:Minoxidil - not supported by this forum
Palmetto - not recommended, harms the prostate, Google it for studies,
Fish oil not advised

Watch Roddy's video and if you agree, then take his advice



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Could you please post a link of the caffeine topical ?

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Post  Maverick70 on Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:42 pm

So after a couple of weeks on the regimen all I have been doing is using the scalp invigorator from this website
http://www.vanityplanet.com/products/scalp-invigorator and using it for 5 minutes twice a day 5x a week, I also have been using LLLT and the product that i have is the one from this website http://www.lasergain.com/ and I am using it 3x a week for 10-15 minutes each session. I want to add something like a caffeine and taurine topical and use that twice a day 5x a week and see if it accelerates the progress, so far it has been good , hairs started to pop out around the hairline and on the top of my head as well, really happy with the progress so far. Also something else that I think had a major impact on this is that I started to take gelatin on a daily, 30 grams on Great Lakes (Green Bottle) with 400 ml of orange juice

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Post  john3333 on Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:13 pm

Jazzel_y, if you want to cure hairloss you need to know what's causing it.
You've told us you have dandruff problems, which are caused by an imbalanced microbiome. To get your microbiome healthier you can try eating foods higher in resistant starch-beans, grains, fruit, and vegetables and less foods that harm the microbiome,meat, fish, dairy, and eggs. The nutrients in these starches will decrease inflammation and oxidative stress in the hair follicles. Diet is a huge source of inflammation and stress, so this is an important step you need to take to regrow your hair permanently. If you're having all these problems-graying,hairloss, at such an early age, it is crucial for you to adjust your diet because on the path you're on right now, you have a very low life expectancy.
There are many solutions to hairloss and one of them is the Starch Solution by McDougall
https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/shopping/books/starch-solution/
CS does not do a lot of massages according to one of his articles, but I disagree with that. He has not completely recovered his hairline. It's important for you to recover your hairline unless you want to end up single like us, which is the main reason we're here. LLLT and scalp massages are a lot safer than what some of the stuff people on here do. Try to stay healthy and don't hurt yourself. You've already made it to this site so you're going to avoid most of the ill-health caused by hairlosstalk,hairlosshelp,and baldtruthtalk. Avoiding the pharmaceutical drugs was a great idea. The problem is that meat is injected with prozac and other drugs, so you may still be being poisoned, so it's extremely important to go vegan. Meat often contains way too much bacteria, which is why we need to cook it at such high temperatures for so long! If you must(you really don't have to, just take a b12 supplement) eat animal products, cook them well. Don't eat raw eggs or milk. If you eat meat, it's a shame since all of the sexiest women are vegans. We're all here because we want to attract women with our hair. End your loneliness with veganism. You might notice that vegan females will love you for who you are deep down, not for how thick your hair is.
I want you and everybody else here to know that all of us will leave Earth one day and it would be heartbreaking to hear if any of us didn't get to experience love. You can't spend your life with low self esteem over your hair.
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Post  Maverick70 on Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:49 am

Ok so i have now added a custom made oil formula made by this etsy shop.

https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/TheGodsNectar?ref=l2-shopheader-name

I asked them to put Coffee, castor oil, rosemary oil, coconut oil, biotin and sea buckthorn. I will report on the progress while adding this to my regimen. After I finish I will probably buy something like this https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/258336574/6-oz-organic-scalp-scrub-oil-free-aloe?ref=shop_home_active_53 and use it once or twice a week since I think my hair loss is caused by some kind of fungus or something regarding my dandruff, because is not the classical MPB pattern, it thins out on top on random spots

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Post  Maverick70 on Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:33 pm

I am now going to include dermastamping with the derminator and use it once a month and not once a week like many people suggest. SO far I have been really happy with the results, A lot of thick hairs have been growing around my hairline and some improvement of thickness on the top of my head, I have also been adding 5 g of Taurine to the Gelatin Shake that I have at night. I believe this has also accelerated the progress, I got the idea from here https://raypeatforum.com/community/posts/106264/ and also i got the idea to add coffee as a topical from here https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/caffeine-can-cure-baldness-in-both-men-and-women.10914/

Lets see how this goes

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