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Post  AgapeBerry on Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:30 am

Does anyone have experience with a dermastamp? I'm specifically curious about the visibility of the wounds and healing time compared to a 1.5mm roller. The benefit of course is that rollers are faster... don't think the large 30x20mm stamp would be too much slower though and it's only once a week so no big deal.

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Post  bov51 on Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:37 pm

Hole wrote:
bogv51 wrote:
My castor oil cold press refined just arrive today, so ill be on that stuff soon. Dominator is way too expensive for me at the moment, ill prolly try dermaroller instead. I will be doing the ghetto protocol.

When you start, could you please create a new thread so we can follow your results?

I would be pretty pointless, since I won't be taking any pics. I tried taking a couple pics before and it turn out garbage, kudos to anyone able to take a good pic by them self, that sht is hard!

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Post  alphadelta on Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:38 am

VikingJL wrote:This is an interesting protocol, but will it really be effective without the use of oral anti-androgens?

yes

from his ask.fm ( http://ask.fm/swisstemples )

swisstemples wrote:My body cant handle fin/dut (i tried over a dozen times). Do you think your ghetto-regimen can be succesful without the anti-androgens? PS I got mad respect for you

Since Prostaglandins are downstream from Androgen damage you do not need to use Anti Androgens. You will however need to take care of the deadly PGD2/PGJ2. And for maintenance afterwads you WILL have to either keep blocking pgd2/pgj2 or use an anti androgen. Depends on what you like best. You're not changing your genes, you can't. You're still prone to hairloss, prevention of *some* kind will always be necessary. So either pick up an anti androgen of your choice or keep inhibiting harmful Prostaglandins.

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Post  VikingJL on Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:49 am

^Cool, thanks for digging that up for me.

On a somewhat unrelated note, there is this guy on youtube who got results from dermarolling. He dermalrolls his hairline, then immediately applies pure lavender oil.
Before
After
So, the dermarolling does look promising.

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Post  sanderson on Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:49 am

VikingJL wrote:^Cool, thanks for digging that up for me.

On a somewhat unrelated note, there is this guy on youtube who got results from dermarolling. He dermalrolls his hairline, then immediately applies pure lavender oil.
Before
After
So, the dermarolling does look promising.

that's crazy. although i'm probably guessing he's on fin as well
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Post  VikingJL on Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:17 am

sanderson wrote:

that's crazy. although i'm probably guessing he's on fin as well

I took a look at a lot of his videos/comments, I remember him saying he uses all natural methods.

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Post  bov51 on Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:07 pm

Guess what I just found, lol.

"Semen from men with normal fertility contained: PGE1, 25.0 microg/ml; PGE2, 23.0 microg/ml; PGE3, 5.5 microg/ml; PGF1a, 3.6 microg/ml and PGF2a, 4.4 gmg/ml"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3536606

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16726735

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Post  johndoe1225 on Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:40 pm

bogv51 wrote:Guess what I just found, lol.

"Semen from men with normal fertility contained: PGE1, 25.0 microg/ml; PGE2, 23.0 microg/ml; PGE3, 5.5 microg/ml; PGF1a, 3.6 microg/ml and PGF2a, 4.4 gmg/ml"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3536606

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16726735

There was a topical semen thread but it got lost, maybe it has some merit?

But again, how often? †Because I'd really like to keep the benefits of nofap as much as possible while doing this.

I suppose as long as you don't use porn it's not so bad...But this isn't an everyday thing is it?

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Post  Changexpert on Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:03 am

bogv51 wrote:Guess what I just found, lol.

"Semen from men with normal fertility contained: PGE1, 25.0 microg/ml; PGE2, 23.0 microg/ml; PGE3, 5.5 microg/ml; PGF1a, 3.6 microg/ml and PGF2a, 4.4 gmg/ml"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3536606

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16726735
Isn't PGE1 unwanted though? It seems so gross to put semen on the scalp lol
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Post  bov51 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:43 am

johndoe1225 wrote:
bogv51 wrote:Guess what I just found, lol.

"Semen from men with normal fertility contained: PGE1, 25.0 microg/ml; PGE2, 23.0 microg/ml; PGE3, 5.5 microg/ml; PGF1a, 3.6 microg/ml and PGF2a, 4.4 gmg/ml"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3536606

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16726735

There was a topical semen thread but it got lost, maybe it has some merit?

But again, how often? †Because I'd really like to keep the benefits of nofap as much as possible while doing this.

I suppose as long as you don't use porn it's not so bad...But this isn't an everyday thing is it?

Its best to do it everyday or every other day, I guess. Anyone that is doing the ghetto protocol should think about doing it. Honestly, I don't mind doing it, but Im on a pretty dam good nofap streak too. Like you said as long as you dont watch porn, I guess itll be ok. lol


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Post  bov51 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:44 am

Changexpert wrote:
bogv51 wrote:Guess what I just found, lol.

"Semen from men with normal fertility contained: PGE1, 25.0 microg/ml; PGE2, 23.0 microg/ml; PGE3, 5.5 microg/ml; PGF1a, 3.6 microg/ml and PGF2a, 4.4 gmg/ml"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3536606

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16726735
Isn't PGE1 unwanted though? It seems so gross to put semen on the scalp lol

nah, nothing wrong with pge1

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Post  johndoe1225 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:43 am

bogv51 wrote:
johndoe1225 wrote:
bogv51 wrote:Guess what I just found, lol.

"Semen from men with normal fertility contained: PGE1, 25.0 microg/ml; PGE2, 23.0 microg/ml; PGE3, 5.5 microg/ml; PGF1a, 3.6 microg/ml and PGF2a, 4.4 gmg/ml"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3536606

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16726735

There was a topical semen thread but it got lost, maybe it has some merit?

But again, how often? †Because I'd really like to keep the benefits of nofap as much as possible while doing this.

I suppose as long as you don't use porn it's not so bad...But this isn't an everyday thing is it?

Its best to do it everyday or every other day, I guess. Anyone that is doing the ghetto protocol should think about doing it. Honestly, I don't mind doing it, but Im on a pretty dam good nofap streak too. Like you said as long as you dont watch porn, I guess itll be ok. lol

Eh I don't think I'll do that, I would be worried about such frequent loss of semen being counterproductive. Even without porn, I thought maybe like once a week or something...

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Post  sanderson on Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:46 am

U can buy animal ...... you know what..... online. .. just search for cow or bull
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Post  Jrli80 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:19 am

He's right about that 10mg not being nearly enough. I'm sorry I misread and thought it was 10g.

Either way when I have some time Id call/email the company and see if what the price drop would be if we ordered maybe 50gs between a few of us.

If there is at least 3 people who are serious about moving forward with it.

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Post  bov51 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:27 am

Nobody took him seriously back in 2004, but now we found out semen contain pge2, lol. Judging from his post history, he seem like a pretty srs guy.


http://www.regrowth.com/hair-loss-forums/topic/my-hair-is-growing-rapidly/

"by Dan818 Ľ July 14, 2004 at 12:25 pm #143683
My approach to hair growth is a little bit unorthodox and some might even find it a bit strange or bizzare, BUT IT WORKED for me. I am getting my hair back, itís growing, new follicles on top of my head of my bald spots.
Finasteride did not help at all, so I decided to experiment. Donít even ask me how I got to the idea that finaly worked for me.
I creamed my bald spots with my own sperm once a day in the morning for the last 4 weeks (exactly 4 weeks to this date). Now I can see new folicles on top of my head, on bald spots where I kept applying my own sperm.
I know this may sound bizzare, strange, disgusting, but honest to God, it worked for me. I am going to scan some pictures and will post them so you can compare my 4 week progress.
Dan"

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Post  Changexpert on Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:03 pm

This is too funny. I can't stop laughing LOL.

Okay, on a side note, something just hit me hard after reading that. Is that why most males have so much pubes?
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Post  bov51 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:37 pm

Jrli80 wrote:He's right about that 10mg not being nearly enough. I'm sorry I misread and thought it was 10g.

Either way when I have some time Id call/email the company and see if what the price drop would be if we ordered maybe 50gs between a few of us.

If there is at least 3 people who are serious about moving forward with it.


call them up and see watsup, their company look pretty legit as for as purity is concern. The pricing is prolly going to be insane tho

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Post  sanderson on Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:35 am

bogv51 wrote:Nobody took him seriously back in 2004, but now we found out semen contain pge2, lol. Judging from his post history, he seem like a pretty srs guy.


http://www.regrowth.com/hair-loss-forums/topic/my-hair-is-growing-rapidly/

"by Dan818 Ľ July 14, 2004 at 12:25 pm #143683
My approach to hair growth is a little bit unorthodox and some might even find it a bit strange or bizzare, BUT IT WORKED for me. I am getting my hair back, itís growing, new follicles on top of my head of my bald spots.
Finasteride did not help at all, so I decided to experiment. Donít even ask me how I got to the idea that finaly worked for me.
I creamed my bald spots with my own sperm once a day in the morning for the last 4 weeks (exactly 4 weeks to this date). Now I can see new folicles on top of my head, on bald spots where I kept applying my own sperm.
I know this may sound bizzare, strange, disgusting, but honest to God, it worked for me. I am going to scan some pictures and will post them so you can compare my 4 week progress.
Dan"

Wheres the pics? I will do it if it works
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Post  Changexpert on Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:36 am

Here's an interesting study. PGE2 stimulates prolactin release.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6439599

Assuming prolactin contributes significantly to inflammation, wouldn't this explain why a lot of people see shedding from minox after a certain period? I remember seeing a lot of growth from minox after initial shedding, but eventually my hair started falling out so much.
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Post  sanderson on Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:36 am

bogv51 wrote:
Jrli80 wrote:He's right about that 10mg not being nearly enough. I'm sorry I misread and thought it was 10g.

Either way when I have some time Id call/email the company and see if what the price drop would be if we ordered maybe 50gs between a few of us.

If there is at least 3 people who are serious about moving forward with it.


call them up and see watsup, their company look pretty legit as for as purity is concern. The pricing is prolly going to be insane tho

Who cares about price.. how much would we need everyday?
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Post  sanderson on Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:50 am

Changexpert wrote:Here's an interesting study. PGE2 stimulates prolactin release.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6439599

Assuming prolactin contributes significantly to inflammation, wouldn't this explain why a lot of people see shedding from minox after a certain period? I remember seeing a lot of growth from minox after initial shedding, but eventually my hair started falling out so much.

Nice find. So pge2 increases prolactin.. so if you have high prolactin it means you have high pge2.. chicken or egg type thing.. seems like pge2 is starter tho? I managed to drop my prolactin from 13 to 7.4 in one month using calcium, mag, salt, and most important infrared light. I wonder how my pge2 levels are... I still have a lot of loss but I think I have bad calcification.. altho less of an itch is noticable... if we can get pge2 tested I would do it
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Post  Changexpert on Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:54 am

Changexpert wrote:Here's an interesting study. PGE2 stimulates prolactin release.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6439599

Assuming prolactin contributes significantly to inflammation, wouldn't this explain why a lot of people see shedding from minox after a certain period? I remember seeing a lot of growth from minox after initial shedding, but eventually my hair started falling out so much.
Also, do we know what receptors for PGE2 are beneficial for us? There are 4 receptors, EP1 through EP4. Lipopolysaccharide-stimulated expression mainly uses EP4 and partially EP2, so I can't imagine EP4 and EP2 being beneficial for hair loss (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9790977). Are EP1 and EP3 the beneficial ones then?

In addition, niacin flush uses DP1 to dampen DP2, but also uses EP2 and EP4 pathways, so I do not think continual use of niacin is a good idea.

Also, PGE2 stimulates COX activities by alternating the pathway to have a positive feedback loop (http://www.jbc.org/content/275/36/28028/F8.large.jpg). If seti works really well, increase in PGD2 should not be a problem, but I wonder if seti can block DP2 100%.

Controlling prolactin level is a must based on my experience. When I was using minox for a little over one year, my scalp was itching so much. After dropping minoxidil, itchiness subsided quite a bit. I think the increase in prolactin definitely played a major role in scalp inflammation.


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Post  Changexpert on Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:57 am

sanderson wrote:Nice find. So pge2 increases prolactin.. so if you have high prolactin it means you have high pge2.. chicken or egg type thing.. seems like pge2 is starter tho? I managed to drop my prolactin from 13 to 7.4 in one month using calcium, mag, salt, and most important infrared light. I wonder how my pge2 levels are... I still have a lot of loss but I think I have bad calcification.. altho less of an itch is noticable... if we can get pge2 tested I would do it
In my honest opinion, I am with you that prolactin is the major culprit of the scalp inflammation. My scalp irritation has gone down substantially since committing to nofap, which I think is helping with prolactin level. I have never measured prolactin level unfortunately, but itching scalp is severe these days.
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Post  sanderson on Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:17 am

Changexpert wrote:
sanderson wrote:Nice find. So pge2 increases prolactin.. so if you have high prolactin it means you have high pge2.. chicken or egg type thing.. seems like pge2 is starter tho? I managed to drop my prolactin from 13 to 7.4 in one month using calcium, mag, salt, and most important infrared light. I wonder how my pge2 levels are... I still have a lot of loss but I think I have bad calcification.. altho less of an itch is noticable... if we can get pge2 tested I would do it
In my honest opinion, I am with you that prolactin is the major culprit of the scalp inflammation. My scalp irritation has gone down substantially since committing to nofap, which I think is helping with prolactin level. I have never measured prolactin level unfortunately, but itching scalp is severe these days.
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Do u have health insurance? If u give a health reason like low libido would gi e an excuse to get it done.... if u have hairloss ur livido could prob b better anyway
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Post  bov51 on Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:42 am

sanderson wrote:
bogv51 wrote:Nobody took him seriously back in 2004, but now we found out semen contain pge2, lol. Judging from his post history, he seem like a pretty srs guy.


http://www.regrowth.com/hair-loss-forums/topic/my-hair-is-growing-rapidly/

"by Dan818 Ľ July 14, 2004 at 12:25 pm #143683
My approach to hair growth is a little bit unorthodox and some might even find it a bit strange or bizzare, BUT IT WORKED for me. I am getting my hair back, itís growing, new follicles on top of my head of my bald spots.
Finasteride did not help at all, so I decided to experiment. Donít even ask me how I got to the idea that finaly worked for me.
I creamed my bald spots with my own sperm once a day in the morning for the last 4 weeks (exactly 4 weeks to this date). Now I can see new folicles on top of my head, on bald spots where I kept applying my own sperm.
I know this may sound bizzare, strange, disgusting, but honest to God, it worked for me. I am going to scan some pictures and will post them so you can compare my 4 week progress.
Dan"

Wheres the pics? I will do it if it works

He did post a picture, but he uploaded it on geocities.com and we all know that site is dead..

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