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Post  MikeGore on Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:27 pm

Seeing how the rates of cancer and illness have increased over the years, I think it is important that we put our heads together, and see what devices and method are beneficial for in house use as well as when using mobile phones or when on the move, and see what can be done to detect and protect ourselves against this unseen cause of cancer.

I have come across many strange devices that purportedly benefit us by reducing EMF. However, I am aware that there are many scams out there in which spending money on these is a waste since they do nothing.

Since I trust the brilliant intellects and judgement of the fellow posters here, I thought I'd open a thread here so we can tackle and prevent cancer from this angle as well in addition to the supplement approach.

Also, if you know any devices names and links are highly welcome.

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Post  cdto2012 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:27 pm

For basic protection use a metal screen mesh that will act as a Faraday cage. Otherwise aluminum foil will work.  So many things give off radiation, RF or microwave.  If you are concerned turn off your wifi router when not using it, replace old style CRT TV with LCD, or use a remote microphone for your cell phone. Keep your laptop away from the body (never on your lap). Do not live near microwave towers or under high voltage power lines. Supposedly living over a stream or major sewer line can cause geomagnetic stress.  Eat seaweed and stay healthy.  If you live in a concrete building there is less penetration of EMF due to the metal mesh in the concrete.

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Post  MikeGore on Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:07 am

Thanks for your reply.

I am having a lot of issues with understanding some of the things that are sold as EMF protection.

First off, I see things like pendants, necklaces being sold calling them "technologies", and the lack of explanation is starting to piss me off. It's more like new age stuff where people wear around their necks to protect them from ghosts or psychic attacks. Now, they are telling me the very scientists that has been on a debunk crusade for a century is saying that similar devices such as pendants, shapes etc, can protect us from electromagnetic radiation? I mean WTF!! It's like, did I miss something here?

Why would a sticker do anything? Why would the shapes on the sticker do anything? And did computer companies really use these stickers to protect CPU from electromagnetic radiation?

Here's the thing. I'm believer of the new age pendants etc. But since this EMF is more of a technological issue, I am expecting a scientific solution. So why are they copying and imitating the new agers now to solve this issue?

My second concern is the Faraday cages. I think, it is conceivable, that if a cage can keep things out, it can also keep things in. Which means, if the person does not know what he is doing, or does not implement the faraday cage properly, he could potentially expose himself to even MORE EMF! For example, without any protection most of the EMF probably passes through us and irradiates off us and flows away. But if one of these faraday cages were used, it might actually stick around us more and even build up intensifying exposure. Do you know what I mean?

And my third concern is, the utter impractically of all this. I don't see myself putting ridiculous device on my computer, or wearing a bloody aluminium foil on my face all day. Isn't there something more subtle and invisible?

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Post  cdto2012 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:09 pm

Fortunately it is pretty easy to tell if a device is stopping EMF, RF, or microwaves. Use a AM/FM radio and a cell phone, if the barrier or device stops all reception it works. I am quite sure that pendants etc do not come with the warning that all reception will be blocked.
As for farday cages and foils. Farday cages work by blocking the wave, not reflecting waves, so they are not a danger for accumulation factor. As with cell phone bags that completely block the signal so they can never be tracked, there are some stainless steel fabric meshes that could be put into vests. Aluminum foil could be placed beneath a mattress and a mesh around a sleeping area.
Generally speaking your general health is your best defense. New cells are made every day and DNA is fairly stable. People like Tesla exposed themselves to massive amounts of RF and X ray radiation and lived to quite an old age. The suns radiation is higher than most other exposures that we get, and natural factors like radon, have been around for awhile.
You might enjoy some of the posts on page 13 of the thread " detumescence-really-works " I wrote about ways to upgrade cellular tissue useful voltage. With a strong cellular electronic field there may be some protection and faster repair

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Post  blackjack on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:35 pm

no escaping EMF.. those who can't handle it will die off and the people that can handle it will move along.. evolution at work...

I use a grounding pad and i turn off my electronics at night... =]

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Post  cdto2012 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:28 am

I will mention that ceiling fans can radiate an unexpected amount of EMF. I guess they have kind of big ferrite coils or something. Another note is that foils and other metals can reflect or focus radio or microwaves. There are electronics to measure EMF and other frequency intensity if you really are concerned. I guess degaussing meters and ghost EMF detectors are the right way to do it and have some fun too.

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Post  MikeGore on Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:13 pm

I want to buy something but not sure what to waste my money on. Do these things actually work?

http://www.toolsforwellness.com/et310.html
http://www.toolsforwellness.com/emf-meters.html
http://www.toolsforwellness.com/100003.html

I find these really strange. The Q-link pendant for example. How it actually helps against EMF pollution and is it really scientific evidence to support it, or is it quackery. Also, how to separate the fake from the real ones. They really need to make an animation video to demonstrate how this thing actually works.

I am looking to buy something soon. Will probably get something from the links listed above unless I find anything better.


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Post  cdto2012 on Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:55 pm

Hello,    I have worked with and studied biofield resonance pretty well.  From the descriptions of the electronics in the pendant, it basically emits a pulsed frequency that is supposed to make your natural body energy stronger and more balanced. This is kind of shooting in the dark as biofields are complex,  wide frequency range, and different with all people.  The bottom line is that they do no blocking of EMF. They simply claim to supercharge your body to fight the effects of EMF.  Personally I doubt they do much. It is like trying to avoid sunburn by getting a full body massage before sunbathing. If you want to try them for fun, they might make you sleep more peacefully or something.
   You can also disturb your body with this kind of frequency generator.  Some watches mess up peoples biofield due to the frequency emitted. The Schuman earth resonance is  around 7 hertz and even this pulse rate can effect people.  Each brain wave state is a frequency range like Alpha, Beta, Theta state.  The body is pretty precise. Look at how the moon millions of miles away effects womens menstrual cycle and moods.
  If you are going to buy the expensive meters,  first commit to following up with shielding. Will you really install metal meshes ?   I did not look over the frequency range of the meters but make sure it extends into the gigahertz range (cell towers) for microwaves or computer emissions range (2 GHZ and up for computer).
I just looked at the best meter they offer , the range is way too low for wi-fi , computer or cell phone detection if 100 khz is top of the range.
"98% accuracy in a frequency range of 16 Hertz to 100,000 Hertz which covers all low frequency polluters, sources such as all standard household appliances, electrical wiring and wiring errors, power lines and transformers "

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Post  MikeGore on Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:59 am

cdto2012 wrote:Hello,    I have worked with and studied biofield resonance pretty well.  From the descriptions of the electronics in the pendant, it basically emits a pulsed frequency that is supposed to make your natural body energy stronger and more balanced. This is kind of shooting in the dark as biofields are complex,  wide frequency range, and different with all people.  The bottom line is that they do no blocking of EMF. They simply claim to supercharge your body to fight the effects of EMF.  Personally I doubt they do much. It is like trying to avoid sunburn by getting a full body massage before sunbathing. If you want to try them for fun, they might make you sleep more peacefully or something.
   You can also disturb your body with this kind of frequency generator.  Some watches mess up peoples biofield due to the frequency emitted. The Schuman earth resonance is  around 7 hertz and even this pulse rate can effect people.  Each brain wave state is a frequency range like Alpha, Beta, Theta state.  The body is pretty precise. Look at how the moon millions of miles away effects womens menstrual cycle and moods.
  If you are going to buy the expensive meters,  first commit to following up with shielding. Will you really install metal meshes ?   I did not look over the frequency range of the meters but make sure it extends into the gigahertz range (cell towers) for microwaves or computer emissions range (2 GHZ and up for computer).
  I just looked at the best meter they offer  , the range is way too low for wi-fi , computer or cell phone detection if 100 khz is top of the range.
"98% accuracy in a frequency range of 16 Hertz to 100,000 Hertz which covers all low frequency polluters, sources such as all standard household appliances, electrical wiring and wiring errors, power lines and transformers "

Thanks for that informative post.

You pretty much confirmed what I suspected. I didn't think it was worth buying them, but to highlight your point you made here when you said "You can also disturb your body with this kind of frequency generator.  Some watches mess up peoples biofield due to the frequency emitted". This exactly what I fear, to make things worse, by not really understanding what is happening by groping in the dark. And also, I wouldn't put metal meshes, that's just too much.

Still scouring the web to find a decent device for both measuring and protecting from EMF. I've also come across EMF protection wall plugs and even USB keys that are said to protect from the bad effects of EMF, but similar to your point that I highlighted I worry it could actually make things worse. Last thing I want to do is buy this for myself and for others and then endanger our health even more. But hoping will find something practical like these types of devices that actually does the job well.

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Post  cdto2012 on Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:42 am

In essence I am not sure you will find what you are looking for to protect you from EMF radiation. Basically the electronic way to actively block wave radiation is to send out a separate canceling wave at the same frequency, amplitude, and with a opposite wave sync. Fundamentally it is the science of active noise cancellation. Not a simple or emf free solution. Then once again you are left with a no reception zone and messing up computers etc.
The main radiation is from cell phones. I think they are like 2 watts of microwave power, enough to heat tissue. For sure enough power to send a microwave a few miles with precision.

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Post  MikeGore on Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:07 pm

Okay, so lets focus on what can be done practically. I think I definitely need to get a detector one way or another. Just need to select one that is good enough. Most of these devices are expensive so I would hate buy something and later find out I could've gotten something else.

But with regards to phone radiation, I've heard people buying emf shield cases or attaching stickers. What are these sticker holograms all about, and how on Earth do they work? If they indeed do?

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Post  cdto2012 on Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:47 am

To be precise about the meters you linked previously. The name on them said gigahertz and they claimed accuracy up to 100kHz , but they did not list the true frequency operating range. If you asked the manufacturer for the frequency detection range maybe it extends into the gigahertz range and they could be a good meter.
  The phone shield bags that I know of are used to block all in and out going signal/microwave/gigahertz frequency.  Basically they are to make the cell phone undetectable.
    An aluminum sticker on the phone could shield part of your head from direct microwaves. Microwaves have a very linear path. The signal blocking would only be partial and directional, but a slight improvement. Of course the aluminum would have to be between the head and phone, otherwise it can reflect even more microwaves into the head
    I will venture into a bit of conjectural theory. If I had the time I might better research it. It has to do with ozone.  I know that the ozone layer in the sky can reflect short wave and improve radio reception at night. When the ozone is stirred up in the day by the sun, it can scatter radio waves.  I am wondering if in room ozone generators and ionizers could make a bit of a scatter shield against weak EMF. The ozone and negative ions are healthy anyway and are standard air purifier methods.  I would consider the below link about salt ionizers a weak claim about EMF reduction, but it is an interesting theory with a more powerful ozone generator.

http://healing.about.com/od/saltrocks/a/salt-lamps.htm

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Post  Delphine on Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:53 pm

Yet another benefit of vitamin C--it detoxes radiation. What it says here about 20,000 mg./day being the limit orally, is in error. People (including myself) have taken way more than that with no issues.

http://www.naturalnews.com/032104_vitamin_C_radiation_exposure.htmlNaturalNews)

With the current nuclear reactor event in Japan people are running to the stores to fill up on potassium iodine. Many other options are available to avoid radiation contamination and detox the body. Unlike iodine, which can cause some adverse conditions if taken in doses too large or too long, there are other alternatives.

Vitamin C has many valuable attributes as a powerful antioxidant. Not only has it been shown to increase the ability of the immune system to fend off disease, but it also has a very positive effect for eradicating radiation from the body. Vitamin C is a water soluble vitamin with over 300 metabolic functions and is non-toxic in mega doses. Whatever the body does not utilize is excreted in the urine. The half life of vitamin C is approximately a half hour so it is in and out of your system rather quickly. Therefore to treat with vitamin C it must be taken relatively often over the course of the day to maintain saturation. Cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy have utilized mega doses of vitamin C for years in order to counter and protect themselves from deadly radiation.

Vitamin C is one of the best defenses against the effects of cell damaging free radicals. Radiation causes proliferation of free radicals by breaking or damaging chemical bonds in DNA, leading to cell death. Dr Levy has a book titled, Vitamin C, Infections Diseases, & Toxins. In this book he indicates radiation toxicity can cause mutations, cancer, birth defects and bone marrow suppression and can negatively affect all the tissues of the body due to the increase in free radicals. He indicates mega doses of vitamin C are potent enough to cope with this threat to the body. Vitamin C has been shown to help the immune system sweep the body of free radicals and in doing so protect the body from the damaging effects associated with them. The recommended daily dose on average is anywhere from 1000mg-3000mg; however, many utilize a mega dose of up to 20,000mg a day. Linus Pauling indicated 20,000mg a day was the most his patients could tolerate orally. Intravenous vitamin C has been used at doses 10 times that level with no problems.

Vitamin C does more than protect against radiation, it also repairs damage from previous exposure. For example, researchers at Harvard Medical School indicated: "Our experiment showed that vitamin C can prevent damage from radiation...it somehow keeps the radiation from killing the cells." Their experiment showed a dosage of 10grams (10,000mg) for humans exposed to extensive radiation had beneficial results protecting the body.

Vitamin C is well studied. Although many specific studies have not been completed to determine all the benefits of mega dose treatment with vitamin C, plenty of case studies indicate its positive attributes. Most notable is the ability of vitamin C to help the body recover and to protect vital bodily functions when undergoing radiation during chemotherapy. Although the radiation released from Japan's nuclear plant is well above the exposure limit of chemotherapy, the levels of radiation on American soil are minimal at this time. Vitamin C supplementation at the minimum dosage of 1000-3000mg would be a wise and cheap source of protection against the effects of radiation in the air, food and soil.

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Post  cdto2012 on Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:13 am

Saw this link today about wifi radiation and it's effects on seed germination. They went on to say

Two researchers, “Drs. Cammaerts and Johansson conducted a partial replication of the original Danish student study using cell towers instead of WiFi routers as the source of wireless radiation. They found that cress seeds located 200 meters from two cell towers failed to germinate.”

http://consciouslifenews.com/cell-tower-radiation-prevents-garden-cress-seed-germination-in-danish-experiment/11105156/




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