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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  cdto2012 on Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:39 pm

Wow,  nice effort and progress.  I think that the foundational knowledge that the painful to press areas, are found around the balding zones if quite important.  The ability to reduce this possibly calcification crystal buildup manually (and for me permanently) in a few months is real first step for researching progress potential.

After the pain has resided, I keep up the massage for blood flow purposes.  Alternatively or in combo, I use the metal dog brush that I pictured with the last picture update link .  It stimulates the skin with pain, and triggers the healing response that brings the platelet rich plasma and stimulates stem cells. Also the concentrate of wasabi, seaweed, vitamin C, and green tea seem effective also, and has components that could possibly work as well as minoxodil.
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https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/19/35/15/42/20180216.jpg

Also the threads that I detailed on are actually 3 in total.  I recommend colon cleansing with senna. Juice fasting and enzyme scalp cleanses.  Use cinnamon oil on a dry scalp.  Vitamin C high dosing.  

http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/t9718-ascorbic-acid-vitamin-c-what-s-the-real-story?highlight=real+story

This is a laborsome list, but every one of them I am glad I have done. Having a clean body, and strong immune system allows for nutrient absorption and resistance to fungals etc.  

Really only time will really show how you scalp will respond to the healthy changes.  Since your pain went away quickly, I guess your scalp is not as degraded as mine was,  and I hopefully you will see faster regrow.  Taking good pictures is really the best way to really see what is happening. The magnification is encouraging and makes progress real, even if slow.

Anyhow,  hope the best for you, There are very few that have put in the effort to reach the stage 1 that you have gotten to. There are plenty of others wondering how to deal with calcification, and a few examples of healthy results goes a long way.

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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  johndoe1225 on Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:24 am

Hi cd and everyone, I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this guy's massage method, specifically at 11:28:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=173TCgioyuc

I bought that brush (with the really thick bristles) and have used it the way he uses it and it actually feels kind of good, I don't feel like I'm yanking out hairs or anything.  It's really easy and can be added to any regimen.  Of course it can also be used for a more traditional massage by placing it on the scalp and just moving the skin.

I just did it for the second time now since I got it and my head feels almost sore but otherwise fine.

I'm tempted to buy one of those other brushes he shows with thinner rubber bristles to use the same way. I'd use my boar bristle brush but that would probably tangle and pull my hair.

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Post  cdto2012 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:41 am

Hi,  I watched the video.  Any massage or stimulus is fine in my estimation. It is ok for improving circulation, I suppose if your capillaries are not inhibited by calcification deposits.

Of course I have mainly been using the extreme wire brushing for I guess about 6 months now. Really like it, and the pain has lessened without any visible scarring or callousness. My skin seems very healthy, and I have started wire brushing my forehead also, feels fine after a while. If you are not delivering the pain, you are not getting the healing response that activates the platelet rich plasma and stem cell activation.  

So in summary, you might pull out some strands,  but severe brushing is  keeping my regrow in progress and consistently producing more terminal hairs by the month.

I like what I am seeing with the entire base hair diameter thickening.  They get to a certain diameter then  start lengthening very quickly.   I am sure that my terminal hairs grow at an accelerated rate.  Maybe 1/2 inch every 5-7 days I guess. I have to trim my hairs every 2-3 days. Kind of wish I had some science to verify if the rate is unusually high.

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Post  johndoe1225 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:36 am

Thanks for the reply, great to hear about your progress!

So you use your wire brush in (almost) the same way as the guy in the video? That's encouraging, I will eventually do something like that hopefully.

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Post  cdto2012 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:26 pm

The wire brush is more like needling, it is hard core scratching and alarming pain. It is enough to strip the paint off a car. I never see any bruising or scratch marks, but the nerves are fully awake. I just brush with it for about 5 minutes all over the scalp.

I have been thinking about writing a summary about being violently opposed to aging and balding. Kind of a composition to put in perspective the intensity of treatment vs some living with looking run down and old. I date some of the hottest women I have ever dreamed of these days. Not hookers, just women in their early 20's that want me more than any other guy. I am not saying that my hair success is the reason. It is enough to pass for very short hair with a full profile distribution. The point is, it is worth the discipline to enjoy the benefits.

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Post  Sage 1 on Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:18 am

cdto2012 wrote:The wire brush is more like needling, it is hard core scratching and alarming pain.  It is enough to strip the paint off a car.  I never see any bruising or scratch marks,  but the nerves are fully awake.  I just brush with it for about 5 minutes all over the scalp.

I have been thinking about writing a summary about being violently opposed to aging and balding. Kind of a composition to put in perspective the intensity of treatment vs some living with looking run down and old.  I date some of the hottest women I have ever dreamed of these days.  Not hookers,  just women in their early 20's that want me more than any other guy. I am not saying that my hair success is the reason. It is enough to pass for very short hair with a full profile distribution.  The point is, it is worth the discipline to enjoy the benefits.

Simply repulsing thatīs it, and as for the moderator itself with his encouraging half naked women to sell.
Why do I bother actually?

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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  cdto2012 on Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:47 pm

Yes , that is the point, WHY BOTHER ?

Unlike you who are repulsed by images or references of attractive younger women, many men are motivated to be youthful and healthy for a chance to be with them.  I do not aspire to be a forum superhero to balding men.  I am not motivated by middle age unattractive women or men as partners as some are.

Yes I am a guy that lives the life I choose with amazing benefites.  

If you are so judgmental and intolerant, please enjoy whatever unattractive old ladies and men in peace.  Stop acting superior because you are repulsed by beauty and youth,  there must be some ugly granny forum for you somewhere else.

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Got PRP done

Post  zn on Fri May 04, 2018 5:10 pm

Hi cdto2012,

I got my PRP done yesterday. My blood was collected in a tube after which it was spun in a centrifuge (i guess) to separate the plasma. The doc injected the plasma at various locations on my scalp. And she said "I was taking it well" - meaning I wasn't cringing in pain bcuz I think by now I am used to the pain due to regular PVC elbow pressing, massaging and I also use wooden toothpick (new one each time) to cause micro injury on my scalp before sleeping.

As per your suggestions I rejected Minoxidil & Dutasteride / finasteride which the doc suggested. So I'm doing only PRP treatment. But the doc suggested Multivitamins (Adgain Plus tablets) and ME D3 (Vit D) - THese I'm okay with.

Before getting PRP done Doc insisted I cure my dandruff and insisted I use :
1) Diprovate lotion & NoSkurf lotions on scalp on alternate days. So I followed.
2) After PRP she has suggested - FolliSerum for Hair growth. I guess the Adenosine enzyme in this helps growth. Donno If i should use it regularly. Doc said its not minox or like finasteride and doesn't need using for lifetime, so use it, doc said.

Meanwhile for next 4 months of my PRP treatment I wont be doing PVC Elbow Pressing.

So, Any suggestions on the path I'm taking ? What do you think of the meds & lotions I'm using ?
1 month gap between next PRP session, so should I start regular pressing with elbow after 15 days of first session ?
Any advice / opinion Smile ?


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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  johndoe1225 on Sun May 06, 2018 11:51 am

Hey again cd and everyone, just wanted to share experience with that video with massage brush I mentioned earlier really quick:

I took a boar bristle brush (this is all separate from the cellulite massage brush) and rubbed it back and force across small patches on my scalp (I am going to do it in small patches so my hair doesn't get all tangled), and it burned/stung like crazy, I actually teared up (not crying Cool ) while doing it.  And it only takes under a minute, since I only did my temples so far, but it's interesting.

And to my absolute surprise I didn't even feel any tugging/ripping at my hair. When I move the brush to a new spot it has my hair all tangled up in it but it was easy to lift the brush away and uncatch my hair.

Also good luck zn!

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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  cdto2012 on Thu May 10, 2018 5:02 pm

Hi ZN,

I have been busy with a health project, I wish I knew more about the things you ask, but I really do not have much advice. I semi stream lined my experiment with limitations so it could be evaluated with limited variables. I left the door open to the active pioneers like yourself to improve on the baseline. With that, I also am not like CS the moderator that would know most anything.

Really great to hear that your scalp seems to be doing well and you are limiting the chemicals. Thanks for checking in.

JD, wish I had long hair to consider 555

( actually my hair does grow long, but it would look patchy)

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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  kraj19 on Sat May 26, 2018 6:59 am

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to say thanks to cd and all the people who put the time in documenting their journeys and trying to help everyone else. I'll start off by explaining my situation: I'm in my early 20's any have been experiencing some thinning and a receding hairline for about 1-2 years. I started doing DT-CPR about 2 months ago. I try to do it daily, 2 times a day, for at least 10 minutes with a vitamin bottle or anything else I can find. My scalp feels healthier and I think I'm starting to see some regrowth but it's hard to tell. I also don't really use shampoo anymore, do headstands regularly, and dermaroll once every other week. I still experience shedding but not as bad as before I started doing all of this. I have a bunch of pics from the last 3-4 months but it is very hard to see if there are any changes because I have a bunch of baby hairs under my hairline and because I suck at taking pictures. I wash my hair 2-3 times a week with apple cider vinegar and I sometimes throw some tea tree oil in there. I just wanted to know if there were some key components that were lacking from my routine and I'd be happy to try to help anyone if I can with my experiences.

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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  MovieJunkie89 on Tue May 29, 2018 9:57 am

kraj19 wrote:Hi everyone,

Just wanted to say thanks to cd and all the people who put the time in documenting their journeys and trying to help everyone else. I'll start off by explaining my situation: I'm in my early 20's any have been experiencing some thinning and a receding hairline for about 1-2 years. I started doing DT-CPR about 2 months ago. I try to do it daily, 2 times a day, for at least 10 minutes with a vitamin bottle or anything else I can find. My scalp feels healthier and I think I'm starting to see some regrowth but it's hard to tell. I also don't really use shampoo anymore, do headstands regularly, and dermaroll once every other week. I still experience shedding but not as bad as before I started doing all of this. I have a bunch of pics from the last 3-4 months but it is very hard to see if there are any changes because I have a bunch of baby hairs under my hairline and because I suck at taking pictures. I wash my hair 2-3 times a week with apple cider vinegar and I sometimes throw some tea tree oil in there. I just wanted to know if there were some key components that were lacking from my routine and I'd be happy to try to help anyone if I can with my experiences.

Good to see a young guy taking action and getting his hair loss under control. Keep up the good work. Here is my opinion, I think DT-CPR is great for providing blood flow and breaking up the calcification under your scalp. But you must also remember to address the fibrosis/dead skin factor as well. CD has talked about using a honey/meat tenderizer mix to remove the dead skin from his scalp. He talks about it in this thread: http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/t10798p100-detumescence-really-works

If you have a receding hairline it is crucial to remove the dead skin in the area, your hairline will not regrow until you do so. Several people in the past on various forums have used things such as Papain, Bromelain, Enzyme peels, Lugol's iodine etc for this purpose, so you actually have several options to use to address your receding hairline.

Tip: Colloidal silver regrows hair and is a stem cell activator. Remove the dead skin on your scalp, continue to do DT-CPR daily to provide blood flow and ensure that calcification can never build up in your scalp. And then use a good brand of Colloidal silver for regrowth. You can scroll down to the colloidal silver section of this blog to see how well it worked for a guy who tried it: http://parityhedgesystemcraps.blogspot.com/2014/05/how-to-stop-losing-hair-and-regrow-it.html

Good luck, be determined and never stop until you've regrown everything back.

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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  kraj19 on Wed May 30, 2018 6:39 am

Thanks for the response, I really appreciate it. In regards to the dead skin, I recently ordered a enzyme peeling cream off Amazon, here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/Enzyme-Peeling-Cream-109-RAYA/dp/B01AGY647W

I tried it along my hairline and it worked pretty well as I was able to rub the dead skin off with just my fingers. The problem is that it doesn't really feel like it should be going on my hair, so I'm scared to put it all over my scalp. It hardens up hair and makes it feel stringy. I guess I'm wondering what is the best method for enzyme therapy. In cd's description, he didn't really specify how much meat tenderizer to use or how much honey, how long to leave it on your scalp for, or how often to do it. Since I do still have plenty of hair on the top of my head, I wonder if my method should be different than his.

As for colloidal silver, I've never heard of it and I'll do some research. Have you had any success with it?

Again, thanks so much for the help.

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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  cdto2012 on Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:22 am

Hi, nice to hear the reports tricking in, a healthier scalp is a lot of skin that is more resistant to fungus, demodex parasites, and other conditions that effect the blood supply that is near the brain.

For the enzyme treatment I just wet the meat tenderizer with the honey to make a gritty paste, enough to smear over the scalp. You do want to test it on small areas. Then I left if on for 3 hours. Can cover it with a bag so you can lay down. I did not notice any noticeable effects on the hair, but it is possible.

As for additional treatments, I really like the liquid concentrate of green tea, bit of seaweed, wasabe, added bit of vinegar, and bit of ascorbic acid.

Yes it is tricky to get pictures and see the slow progress. Restoration is a great goal, but a healthy scalp and holding on to what you can is the first step.

I hope to put out some new pics soon, just like to have it look as thick as possible before I post again.

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Post  kraj19 on Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:20 am

Good to hear from you cd. I'll give the meat tenderizer and honey a try, and I'll let you know how it works for someone with medium length hair. I've been noticing a lot of white flakes in my hair since I started this and at first I thought it was because I stopped using head and shoulders, but maybe it is just the dead skin from all of the massaging. Hopefully the enzyme therapy will help.

As for the liquid concentrate, do you use that just as a topical? If so, how frequently? I've been using a mixture of green tea and apple cider vinegar in the shower lately just to wash my hair with. I'm wondering if you use a shampoo along with the concentrate or just wash it out with water.

I'll probably post some pictures after my next haircut, just so it is at the same length as the last time I took some pictures. I appreciate all of the insight.

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Re: Regrowth Photos DT-CPR method

Post  cdto2012 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:58 pm

Hi, the ACV is like an acid peel, and probably does dry the skin a bit, but my scalp is far from dry or flaky. When I use the wasabi, green tea, ascorbic acid, and seaweed for minerals; I want this to absorb into my skin to nurture and have the caffeine act like a minoxidil. I splash on a table spoon full every few hours.

I appreciate the guys that give the honest try and share the results. There is a slippery hill on this forum of so much great content that gets buried and forgotten.

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