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O/T Hepatitis B Vaccine Required For NHS Position

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Post  goten574 on Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:13 pm

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I have been offered a position with the NHS (National Health Service here in the UK) as a ward clerical officer. I received some paperwork that I need to fill in and hand back. One document is labelled "Workplace Health and Wellbeing Recruitment Form" and it mentions that I would have "DIRECT face-to-face patient contact and/or blood/body fluid exposure". So they require my immunisation history and/or a blood test to see if I show immunity against:

- MMR (Measles, Mumps Rubella)
- Tuberculosis
- Chicken Pox
- Hepatitis B
- Hepatitis C
- HIV

I am in the process of obtaining my immunisation histroy from my local surgery but from memory I already have the MMR and Tuberculosis immunity because I remember having various injections as a child. I also know I have had Chicken Pox so I should be immune from that too. From doing research, I don't think I am required protection against Hepatitis C or HIV because I won't be performing EPP (Exposure Prone Procedures) where workers gloved hands may be in contact with sharp instruments. I highly suspect from research on the Internet that I would require the Hepatitis B vaccination (3 injections at 0, 1 and 6 months). It is highly recommended that NHS staff get an annual Influenza vaccine too. I am concerned with that too but I believe this is optional for the moment.

I have read on the Internet that this vaccination is fairly safe but I have read reports and comments about people having serious health problems likely from this. I am now unsure what to do and would like some comments. I understand there are trace amounts of  thimerosal/mercury (for the higher dosage version that adults require) and also aluminum hydroxide. I realise that aluminum is everywhere, in food and the enivironment so I am probably already exposed on a daily basis. I am cautious but should I be highly concerned with the trace amounts of thimerosal? I highly supsect that if I refuse the Hepatitis B vaccination, that I will be denied employment.
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Post  CausticSymmetry on Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:20 pm

I have heard, but cannot say for certain because I have never tried it myself that if you can acquire papers from medical personnel that are "proof" you have already had the shot, that would be the safest way to go.

As for the 'safety' 30 to 40% of these vaccines are contaminated with retroviruses, so wouldn't take the risk. Hopefully something like the above suggestion or something similar will work.

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Post  goten574 on Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:04 am

There is a mercury free version of the vaccine. If I were to take it, would this be a better option? If I am given the option of declining the vaccine I will 100% decline it.

Are you suggesting I submit forgery papers?

I'm not sure what a retrovirus is but I think I will have to have a blood test which would reveal if i have immunity to hepatitis B which I do not.
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Post  CausticSymmetry on Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:32 am

goten574 wrote:There is a mercury free version of the vaccine. If I were to take it, would this be a better option? If I am given the option of declining the vaccine I will 100% decline it.

Are you suggesting I submit forgery papers?

I'm not sure what a retrovirus is but I think I will have to have a blood test which would reveal if i have immunity to hepatitis B which I do not.

Mercury is contaminated via several phases of the manufacture (to destroy bacteria), so it is always there (added or not), however it is the aluminium that is of huge concern.

Here is some idea of what is in this vaccine.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

Can't really advise on the proper way to avoid the vaccine. But considering that a significant percentage of vaccines are contaminated with retroviruses and mycoplasma, it simply invites disease later. So it becomes an odd moral issue where doing wrong might be doing right. Whatever the best way to avoid being poisoned. 

There is an idea of using some type of clay or absorbent material that could be applied immediately after injection, but no telling how effective that would be.

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Post  goten574 on Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:14 pm

I have spoken to a nurse via email who is involved in vaccinations and she gave me a policy document. She said no immunisations are mandatory but are recommended. I will go ahead with the application process and will deny all vaccines as much as I can. I am hoping what the nurse says is true, the policy PDF she gave me seems to suggest I will be offered but not forced. Thanks for your input.
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