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recommendations for a saw palmetto product

Post  foofighters on Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:49 pm

Are they all the same or is there something i have to look for on the packaging?
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Re: recommendations for a saw palmetto product

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:03 am

none

beta sitosterol is 300 times more potent

but both are not reccomended

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:50 pm

to inhibit 5ar , use progesterone.

if this lowers your libido too much, and it may, just stop using it for 3 days, or
supplement with vitamin d, pregnenelone and DHEA.

it's completely safe, unlike saw palmetto and finasteride which have long term side effects. progesterone side effects are about 3 days .

By SIRI E. NILSSON Feb. 8, 2006

Saw palmetto, an over-the-counter herbal therapy used by more than 2 million men to support prostate health, may be no more effective than a placebo, according to a study published in this week's issue of The New England Journal of Medicine.

The study followed 225 men who had prostate challenges. Half of the men were given saw palmetto twice a day, and half were given a placebo.

At the end of one year, the men taking saw palmetto showed no significant improvement compared to the placebo group.

The findings were welcomed by some doctors who said they felt all along that saw palmetto didn't work. Dr. Jacques Carter, at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, said he has observed in his own clinical practice that saw palmetto is virtually ineffective. "In nearly every instance, my patients reported little if any improvement of the symptoms on this supplement," Carter said.

And Dr. Carl Reese, at Pennsylvania State University College of Medicine, hopes the new finding can convince patients to stop wasting money on saw palmetto. "Millions of dollars are spent each year by men on this product and it may not be of any benefit," said Reese. "This article will help the argument that they are wasting their money."
Saw Palmetto may actually be Harmful to your Prostate

Three recent scientific studies, surprisingly indicated that saw palmetto may actually harm your prostate health! These studies, which were investigating the effect of saw palmetto on prostate tissue all came to the same conclusion: Saw palmetto has an effect similar to chemotherapy on prostate cells - it kills both unhealthy and healthy cells!

One study published in Prostate examined the effect of saw palmetto on stroma cells (the framework cells that build supportive tissue) and on epithelial cells (those which line the glands and ducts of the prostate). The study was done on normal prostate tissue and on BPH tissues from patients treated with and without the saw palmetto. The conclusion was that saw palmetto damages the nuclear and mitochondrial membranes, and causes cellular death in the epithelium and stroma.

Another study published in the Journal of Urology investigated the effects of saw palmetto on primary cultures of fibroblasts (cells that produce connective tissue), and epithelial cells from the prostate, epididymis (the tube that provides for the storage, transmission and maturation of sperm), testes, kidney, skin and breast to determine if the action of saw palmetto is selective and specific to prostate tissue. This study concluded that saw palmetto caused damage and death in prostate tissue, though there were no similar changes observed in other types of cells.

A third study published in Prostate examined the effect of saw palmetto on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). Again, the results showed there was widespread damage of intracellular membranes, including mitochondrial and nuclear membranes in both healthy and overgrown prostate tissue.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11074529?dopt=AbstractPlus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10953171?dopt=AbstractPlus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10420151?dopt=AbstractPlus

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Post  long hair on Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:51 pm

what about pumpkin/water melon seeds as a snack ,it have a lot of zinc which is good ,but any side effect from eating a lot Neutral ?
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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:55 am

long hair wrote:what about pumpkin/water melon seeds as a snack ,it have a lot of zinc which is good ,but any side effect from eating a lot Neutral ?

that's irrelevant

if you can, snack on jackson's chips fried in coconut oil

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Re: recommendations for a saw palmetto product

Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:09 am

Generally avoid the following things

finasteride

saw palmetto
nettle products
beta sitosterol
flax lignans
Pygeum
pumpkin products
pollen extracts

Progesterone is safer


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Post  iuyyighghghgkh on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:23 am

I also waned to add,

Dim Plus Cdg

Generally this can be avoided, and is not the solution to estrogen problems


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