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Kelp vs Lugol's

Post  Silverlin on Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:49 am

I took lugol's for about 6 months and I'm sure it helped, but i never felt 100% 'right' on it. So the last 2 months I dropped lugol's and tried high dose kelp, and now i've never felt better! I have so much more energy then i did on lugol's and no more pimples!

Lugol's is a synthetic mineral and just like anything else thats synthetic its best only used in the short term (or if natural minerals/vitamins aren't avaliable). Synthetic vitamins and minerals can never compete with the seemingly infinite complexity of nature which we find in organic whole foods and to a lesser extant their extracts. One needs alkaline minerals and other co-factors that only occur in whole foods which adequately address an extemely comprehensive struture such as the body, lugol's cannot compete. The same principle applys, as brewers yeast is superior over synthetic B vitamins, so it is with kelp being superior to lugol's.

If one argues that lugols is totally safe for the long term, then ill just argue organic kelp is even better and healthier. After all this is what this whole forum is about, balancing our choices in accordance to the perfect harmony of natures intelligent design. Just my two cents.

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Re: Kelp vs Lugol's

Post  Nashville Hairline on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:23 am

A couple of posts here http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/natural-hair-regrowth-forum-f1/lugol-s-iodine-solution-t842-60.htm#12910 didn't have much positive to say about Kelp. i take it myself though, its a cheap source of Iodine.

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Post  NrwgnKID on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:54 am

How much kelp do you take a day then ?

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Re: Kelp vs Lugol's

Post  Silverlin on Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:50 pm

The big problem people have had with kelp is there generally isn't enough iodine unless you take obscene amounts.

Well according to Maine Coast Sea Vegetables they have 3390mcg of Iodine per 1/4 teaspoon of Kelp granules. Now i take about a tablespoon of their milled digitata which is even more concentrated in Iodine.

http://www.seaveg.com/chart.php

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Post  NewReg on Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:53 pm

I never felt quite right on Lugol's either. That said, it seems to have helped my circulation. I used to suffer from cold fingers and feet all of the time, and after taking Lugol's, I haven't had too much of a problem with it. However, it made me a bit edgy some times, and seemed to contribute to the enlargement of a nodule I've had off and on over the years. Recently, after taking more Lugol's than I usually do as a means to get past the threshold where people start seeing really positive results, the nodule got pretty big and didn't go away. I got kind of panicky and got off the Lugol's, but it still didn't go down. I started taking NOW Thyroid Energy and the nodule has gone down significantly, though it still detectable -- I have some good days and I have some bad days. The size seems to be closely tied to my stress level, but there's not a lot I can do about that some times. In any case, I am really liking NOW Thyroid Energy thus far.

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Post  vade retro alopecia on Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:49 pm

Living close to the sea, I started to pick up & dry (four hours on black plastic bags in the sun in the garden) & cook Laminaria digitata - these seaweeds have the highest % of iodine. They are very easy to recognise at low tide, so if you live close to the sea, check if you have these algae. Note that the % of iodine varies depending on the season (highest content when pick-up later during the year). I found this study that state the % iodine for this species according to the season:
http://www.xolopo.de/biowissenschaften/a_survey_iodine_content_laminaria_digitata_12434.html

Re: results, so far so good, but too early to assess. Only a week I started. I take 10 g (dried weight) every two days and go for a run on the beach, it apparently increases the intake of iodine.

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Post  Misirlou on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:22 am

CS...give us your verdict cheers

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Post  tommmash on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:25 am

In my mind Kelp is really absurd... Kelp OMG affraid

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:29 am

There's also using Iosol.

http://www.iherb.com/TPCS-Iosol-Formula-II-1-fl-oz-30-ml/4785?at=0

I'll post the top review which maybe relevant to this thread:

Good stuff!!!, August 05, 2008
From Illinois
For anyone who gets knocked flat on their back from potassium iodide (lugol's) this is a great alternative. Iosol has allowed me to lower thyroid medications, improved the texture of my skin, helped me to sleep sound and numerous other benefits. Not claiming it to be a cure all because there usually isn't one magic bullet but definitely a great addition to the essential supplement tool box

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Re: Kelp vs Lugol's

Post  Gibson on Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:12 am

I've been using this:
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=WO-1014
But i think it also contains potassium iodide.
Also, I haven't really embraced in understanding, or tried, the therapeutic iodine protocal, but I supplement with it just to be covered. to that end, I also use various seaweeds for sea mineral goodness and as food enhancers--they taste good.

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Post  Warren on Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:11 pm

Silverlin: Did the kelp help your hair though? Also, are you only eating the digitata? You originally said "high dose" but in the other post you said 1 tablespoon -- how much do you eat per day?

Silverlin wrote:I took lugol's for about 6 months and I'm sure it helped, but i never felt 100% 'right' on it. So the last 2 months I dropped lugol's and tried high dose kelp, and now i've never felt better! I have so much more energy then i did on lugol's and no more pimples!

Lugol's is a synthetic mineral and just like anything else thats synthetic its best only used in the short term (or if natural minerals/vitamins aren't avaliable). Synthetic vitamins and minerals can never compete with the seemingly infinite complexity of nature which we find in organic whole foods and to a lesser extant their extracts. One needs alkaline minerals and other co-factors that only occur in whole foods which adequately address an extemely comprehensive struture such as the body, lugol's cannot compete. The same principle applys, as brewers yeast is superior over synthetic B vitamins, so it is with kelp being superior to lugol's.

If one argues that lugols is totally safe for the long term, then ill just argue organic kelp is even better and healthier. After all this is what this whole forum is about, balancing our choices in accordance to the perfect harmony of natures intelligent design. Just my two cents.

I get my kelp from here http://www.seaveg.com/faq6.php

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Re: Kelp vs Lugol's

Post  Silverlin on Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:20 am

Warren - I first started high dose with a species of kelp with not much iodine, but then upon finding maine coast sea vegetables i've been on the digitata and kelp. Although they have other products that I might try in the future to add some variety.

As far as hairwise I haven't really noticed any difference, but then again I didn't really notice a difference on lugol's. The biggest difference i've noticed is in 'overall health', which I can only assume would be having a positive effect on my hair aswell even if not really noticable yet.

On lugols I kind of felt edgy and just 'meh', but on the kelp i've had a consistent drive of energy all through out the day. My skin is also looking a thousand times better and recently even more so since i've added a few brazil nuts to the mix.

CS - considering how important iodine is for hairloss, what would you think about the suggestion to include a lugol's and kelp (maine coase sea vegetables) link in your Ancillary part of your regimen?

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:36 am

Silverlin - I considered the idea of putting iodine in the extra's section, but there's so much to learn about it that I've been a little hesitant to include it.

Because information is changing so fast, I thought about adding a blog to the site and posting with information like this in mind.

Another thing about the iodine is its role in males is not quite as understood. I strongly suspect it will prevent us from acquiring prostate cancer, which if you live long enough is almost certain--although men usually die of other causes.

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Re: Kelp vs Lugol's

Post  Silverlin on Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:35 am

CS - No worries, I trust your judgement.

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Post  LittleFighter on Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:11 pm

Because Iosol seems to be "better tolerated" compared to Lugol's and because it's cheap, I will start with it as my iodine source. The better tolerated statement is based on some comments and opinions I've been reading lately.

I would definitely use also use something like the thing CS recommended and/or the following:

Now Thyroid Energy (great reviews, lots of them)
http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Thyroid-Energy-90-Vcaps/843?at=0

This would provide complementing nutrients needed. Many people here have been discussing just that lately, the importance of selenium and other co-factors along with Iodine for putting your thyroid back on track. Some people may have not gotten results because of insufficient levels of critical nutrients like selenium, so keep this in mind.


I find very interesing that some people is experimenting with Kelp and other sources to regain optimal thyroid function and possibly achieve iodine sufficiency, in a more natural way. Cool, looking forward to get updates on their advances.


Good luck.

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