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Post  Fibonacci on Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:08 pm

About 2 years ago I speculatively bought a few shares in this company. Two years on I have just received my bottle with 'active telomerase enzyme' in it. I will use it for 30 days and report any findings back.
Having waited so long for this I am dubious about its efficacy, however, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Here is an interesting excerpt from the web site regardig growth factors:

Growth factors and Growth Hormones CANNOT REPAIR TELOMERES and thereby they cannot rejuvenate cells. Growth factors only hasten the metabolism of the cells and in doing so, they also hasten their demise. Telomerase, actually REJUVENATES the cell and RESETS their aging clock! Now the cells PRODUCE all their own growth factors NATURALLY as when they are teenager cells! So no growth factors are needed, when the cell is young again!

I'll let you all know if its the mircale cure, but dont hold your breath.

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Post  RobHealthMan on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:40 am

let us know! thanks Smile

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Post  chore on Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:02 am

I'm using it, too.

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Post  darth on Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:49 am

i'm using it too.

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Post  nidhogge on Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:51 pm

Well, gentlemen, DO Keep us posted!!

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Post  xyion1 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:50 am

$2000! Holy moly. That said, this is the second such telomerase product I've read about today, from 2 separate sites, and completely randomly as I was not searching for it. The second one is Reneuve, which is $250/bottle and they recommend twice per year only as an internal. I have no idea if/how this stuff works, but there were some links/articles linking telomerase supplements and potential cancer. Just saying, that's what I read.

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Post  goten574 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:19 am

I emailed igrowhair asking if there were any Cancer risks and this was his reply:

On Telomerase and Cancer


Many people, Doctors and PhD's always come to me to ask about telomerase and cancer and
I tell them the same thing: Telomerase IS NOT carcinogenic. I have been taking telomerase
myself since the year 2,000 and I DO NOT have cancer, neither do babies making telomerase,
nor teenagers with a huge thymus gland pumping telomerase, no, they are HEALTHY!
Cancer is created by other things that are CLASSIFIED as CARCINOGENIC,
like, nicotine, ionizing radiation, chemicals like benzene, metals like cadmium, etc.
Here is the email I have sent to someone asking the same question:
> > Because a cancer cell is essentially a cell "gone
> > wild" pulling ALL THE "covers on it's entire
> > and very long DNA, LOOSING DIFFERENTIATION into a specific
> > cell. Most cells "cover up" most of the DNA
> > except the portion to become a tooth cell, or a hair cell,
> > or a skin cell, etc., but not all things at the same time,
> > this is called DIFFERENTIATION. But a cancer cell becomes
> > DE-DIFFERENTIATED and it begins to be anything it wants to
> > be all at the same time, (a cancer contains teeth, hair,
> > sperm, bone, etc., like a human in a blender) and the cancer
> > cells begin expeessing *ALL* THE CHEMICALS stored as genes
> > in its ***ENTIRE DNA***, with abandon and unchecked,
> > everything from baby genes, to a bony igloo,, to even
> > prehistoric viruses begin to be expressed by the cancer cell
> > gone wild, to even good proteins and enzymes, such as
> > Telomerase, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN that these chemicals a
> > cancer cell ***PRODUCES***, then can ALSO INDUCE a normal
> > cell into BECOMING a cancer cell, NO.
> > It doesn't work backwards.
> >
> > Just because a cancer cell makes Telomerase, bone, etc,. It
> > doesn't mean these chemicals or proteins CAUSE cancer.
> >
> > You can BATHE any cell with telomerase and it WILL NOT turn
> > into a cancer cell, (transformation) no.
> >
> > (The "infinity line of Telomerase immortalized cell
> > lines" by Clontech Corporation PROVES the fact that
> > these cells GIVEN telomerase, DO NOT suffer transformation,
> > (become cancerous) even after 300 population doublings,
> > which is a good measure of the cell's lifespan in YEARS,
> > (WITHOUT TURNING INTO CANCER - TRANSFORMATION).
> >
> > Mutagens like Nicotine, Radiation like X-Rays Gamma or UV,
> > viruses, like EBV SV-40 CMV PAPILLOMA-VIRUS, bacteria like
> > pylori, metals like Cadmium, liquids like Benzene, DO cause
> > a NORMAL CELL to become a cancer cell, (transformation).
> > These items we call and classify CARCINO-GENIC materials in
> > international databases.
> >
> > You can google TELOMERASE SAFETY and see the document made
> > by MIT and Duke University VERIFYING the safety of
> > Telomerase for human uses.
> >
> > Telomerase IS NOT, repeat, IS NOT carcinogenic, or all your
> > T-cells, G.I. Track and all stem cells would instantly
> > become cancers, as they ALL produce telomerase. A baby
> > would be one big cancer then! Your sperm and female's
> > Eggs do not turn cancerous, yet they ARE immortalized cells
> > as HAPLOIDS PRODUCE TELOMERASE.
> >
> > In essence, TELOMERASE, IS NOT carcinogenic. It is just
> > that a cancer cell PRODUCES telomerase and in doing so, it
> > becomes a teenager cell being a wild cell that PRODUCES all
> > the chemicals.
> >
> > Since a cancer cell PRODUCES telomerase, and most cells
> > don't, some MD's DETECT for the prescense of
> > telomerase, but not realizing that TELOMERASE is a PRODUCT
> > of a cancer cell, NOT WHAT CAUSES the cell to become a
> > cancer cell.
> >
> > It doesn't mean that the enzyme TELOMERASE, PRODUCES
> > cancer.
> >
> > Otherwise TEENAGERS with a huge thymus gland pumping out
> > copious amounts of telomerase via the T-cells, (thymic
> > initiated cells T-cells) would all be dead of cancer, no?
> > No, Telomerase keeps teenagers YOUNG, ENERGETIC AND VERY
> > HEALTHY, with long telomeres AND WITH A FANTASTIC immune
> > system. However, look at anyone 6 to 12 years after 45 when
> > the thymus practically dissappears, and no more production
> > of T-cells - NO TELOMERASE, we get old, senescent and die,
> > with short telomeres, like the kids with Progeria- no thymus
> > or production of Telomerase.
> > AGING is essentially a DEFFICIENCY of Telomerase.
> > You take vitamin C to keep you from getting scurvy, well,
> > you can take telomerase to keep you from getting AGING.
> > By giving your T-Cells the ability to proliferate into a
> > huge clone army against cancer cells, with telomerase, now
> > you're giving your immune system the same advantage that
> > the cancer cells have with telomerase production, but NOT
> > turning into cancer cells.
> > It disgusts me that there are still people out there that
> > just don't understand the basic mechanisms of cancer,
> > the P-53 gene checkpoint and the role of Telomerase in
> > making a cell YOUNG.
> > One thing is making a cell cancerous.
> > And another thing is making a cell YOUNG.
> > TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT CELLULAR MECHANISMS.
> >
> > I have been taking telomerase since the year 2,000. And to
> > this date all the cell lines created with the expression of
> > telomerase HAVE NOT turned cancerous, not a one!
> > And ALL the SAFETY experiments have PROVEN all these idiots
> > wrong.
> >
> > I hope I have made sense.
> >
> > If you are still unclear, please tell me.
> > I can dwell far far deeper.
> >
> > Joe.

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Post  Gromit137 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:01 pm

I'd spend $2,000 in a hairbeat ... if this stuff actually competed with hair transplant results ... as stated. I'm hoping beyond reason to hear some results. People here have started actually applying it to their heads?? Please keep us updated. I'll remain gullibly cynical with a bit of doubtful hope.

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Post  Misirlou on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:16 am

CS, what do you think of this? bom

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:50 am

Misirlou - I know that telomerase would be good for skin, but I'm not certain whether it will do anything for hair. I'm just going to wait on the side-lines and hope for the best.

Magnesium oil can help prevent premature shortening of telomeres, so if it has helped at all could be an indication.

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Post  darth on Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:24 am

[quote="CausticSymmetry"]Misirlou - I know that telomerase would be good for skin, but I'm not certain whether it will do anything for hair. I'm just going to wait on the side-lines and hope for the best.
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Read this article that appeared in "NATURE" magazine in August 2005:

Conditional telomerase induction causes proliferation of hair follicle stem cells

PDF:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361120/pdf/nihms4712.pdf

HTML:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v436/n7053/abs/nature03836.html

one small extract:
"Here, we show that conditional transgenic induction of TERT in mouse skin epithelium causes a rapid transition from telogen, the resting phase of the hair follicle cycle, to anagen, the active phase, thereby facilitating robust hair growth."

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:10 am

darth - Thanks for that link.

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Post  goten574 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:39 am

Could hairloss be caused by a premature shortening of telomeres in the baldness specific regions of the scalp?

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Post  Misirlou on Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:30 am

Or at least worsened from it?

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Post  Fibonacci on Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:12 pm

Just so that you know what I am thinking of doing with this igrowhair concoction:
Currently the only things I use are scalpure and a 400 diode OMG laser helmet. I was going to stop these for 30 days, but have had second thoughts. So my felling is to contunue to use scalpure 3 times per week( I use it as it seems to make my scalp more responsive to laser treatment), followed by the obligatory 20 mins of laser treatment. I will use purified water( very important apparently) to rinse the scalp every evening and apply the igrowhair, leaving it on overnight. So scalpure/lser 3 times per week. igrowhair 7 times per week, for a month.
I do also take all the IH supps( have done for a few years)
Do any of you think I should quit the saclpure and laser therapy for this period? I dont want to as I have had good results from their usage and dont want to take two steps back by taking a month off from them.
Instinctivley I know I should stop them and just use the igrowhair, so I am in a bit of limbo. If I could be convinced that the igrowhair and the scalpure/laser therapy are two completely different mechanisms and wont interact with each other I would feel good about doing all three. However, if there is a general concensus that one may affect the other I will just use igrowhair for 30 days as originally planned.
Any advice/suggestions, especially from the few that are also giving it a try?
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Post  CausticSymmetry on Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:58 am

Yesterday I was checking my bookmarks, and I try not to keep that many of them, but saw one that I saved for some reason. It was this: http://www.curebum.com/reneuve-telomerase-enzyme/

Scroll down just a little and it will show a photo of someone who has used the RENEUVE™ product already mentioned on this thread.

Where I am hesitant is that I've seen only two photos (two different companies), so if it is legitimate, it may take a long time for the benefits to be realized.

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Post  chore on Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:03 am

Joe Fox got a little squirrely on me when I asked about a refund, a couple of days ago. I've been calling him back daily and he keeps postponing it 'til the next day.

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Post  Glacier on Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:03 pm

With all due respect to the IGrowHair's owner, I think this guy is a quack. I would save my money.

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Post  goten574 on Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:52 pm

chore wrote:Joe Fox got a little squirrely on me when I asked about a refund, a couple of days ago. I've been calling him back daily and he keeps postponing it 'til the next day.

Sorry, I have not been following this thread much. Did you purchase iGrowHair and saw no results? Are you asking for a refund or just asking about how the refund works for future reference?

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Post  Misirlou on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:38 pm

Very interesting, but not to apply topically?

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Post  okfor on Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:07 pm

I`ve been using igrow for about a month now and I have actuallly have some regrowth along hair line. I have pretty extensive hair loss about 90 percent of hair on top of scalp is gone and i have the typical horsehoe effect. so hair is regrowing below hair line and about quarter inch above hair line all around the horseshoe. Joe fox said this bottle i received`isn`t the 100 percent effective one he said he is keeping the 1oo percent one "under his hat" he is so afraid someone might copy his formula.

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Post  Gromit137 on Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:37 am

Okfor ... can you give us some background on yourself and how you got the product.
You just joined a couple days ago so I'm sure some of us are wondering if you're a salesman for the product.

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Post  okfor on Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:37 am

No, I am not a salesman. Joe fox wouldn`t know a salesman if he walked in wearing a blue hat. I am an investor like chore. Have been an investor for the last 2 years and believe me its been a trial of frustration and patience for the last 2 years. I know chore hasn`t had any results so far and I don`t know why. All I can tell you is that I have some new hair growth and how far it will continue I don`t know, I still have along ways to go. But I will keep you updated

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Post  bocor on Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:46 am

What is the point of even talking about this topical if he chrages 2k for 1 measly bottle thatll last a month.This guy must be insane right? is he only catering to the bilderbergers or something?Am i missing something here?Why would you chore or the others waste so much money on a product that hasnt been PROVEN to work?Im not buying any of this.Is the price supposed to magically transform from 2000 dollars to 20 dollars or something soon?at 2000 it better work BETTER than a transplant.What gives?

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Post  nidhogge on Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:12 pm

Very confusing indeed...

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