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CS: Please review my new regimen

Post  iluvhair on Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:48 pm

Hey there Smile

Well after reading a lot, and going over all the advice the forum gave me, I've created the following supplement regimen. And I have several questions if you don't mind. Smile

Sulforaphane (9mg) & Selenium (200mcg) / daily (Jarrow SeleNext)
Taurine / 1000mg daily (Swanson)
Ecklonia Cava (Seanol) / 400mg 2x daily (Nutricology Fibroboost)
*Krill Oil / 1000mg daily (Nature's Way EFA Gold)
R-Lipoic Acid 100mg 3x daily w/meals (Doctor's Best, Best Stabilized R-Lipoic Acid)
Biotin 5mg daily (NOW)
Acetyl L-Carnitine 750mg 3x daily w/meals (Best Vite 750mg)
*Curcumin 95 500mg daily (Jarrow)
Probiotic Formula 1 Capsule daily (Jarro-Dophilus EPS)
(?) Magnesium 400mg daily (NOW)
MSM 1500mg 2x daily (Doctor's Best)
Ginkgo Bilboa 60mg daily (Swanson)
GliSODin 100mg daily (NOW)
*Green Tea Extract (290mg EGCG) daily (Sockbridge Naturals)
Flax Seed Oil 1000mg daily (Natrol)
Soy Isoflavones 40-60 mg daily (?) or Fermented Soy Powder

Before I list my questions, let me state that while I try to eat fairly healthy, I actually don't - though I do avoid all red meats, and am cutting down on carbs. I rarely cook and often eat out, so my diet isn't the best. Want to change, but in the event I don't, I am hoping supplements can really help. I am 22, active, and naturally slim. Additionally, I am PMing you with some further info on my health which I'd like you to take a look at first, as it may impact the answers.

- When should I be taking all these? Which need to be taken in morning, afternoon, night? Anything that shouldn't be taken at the same time?

- Are there any supplements I have missed that would be crucial to my health or hair? Anything I plan on taking that I shouldn't be?

- I know brands are important. Am I choosing the right ones? I've starred the supplements which I am finishing a bottle of, so if an alternative brand is better, I'm all game!

- Re: this quote: "DHT stimulates TGF-B1, which stimulates collagen enzymes, which further stimulate apoptosis." Does this mean collagen supplements could potentially be bad for hair?

- Do I need to take Bioperine with Curcumin?

- How much more beneficial is a Green Tea Phytosome supplement over standard Green Tea Extract? Does Green Tea Phytosome also include ECGC (I don't see ECGC listed on Phytosome supplements)?

- Recommend any brands for Soy Isoflavones? Is fermented soy powder preferred over Soy Isoflavone supplements?

- I dropped the following supplements over the past year out of neglect, do you think any of them are worth while for hair, health, or skin? Choline&Insitol, Pantothenic Acid, Coenzyme A.

Wow, that's a lot - hoping you can help Smile Thanks in advance.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:02 pm

iluvhair - The following supplements are not really necessary in my opinion:

MSM 1500mg 2x daily (Doctor's Best)
Ginkgo Bilboa 60mg daily (Swanson)
Flax Seed Oil 1000mg daily (Natrol)
Soy Isoflavones 40-60 mg daily (?) or Fermented Soy Powder

*Green Tea Extract (290mg EGCG) daily (Sockbridge Naturals) - This is good for immunity, I have found both regular and phytosome versions to be effective.

Re: this quote: "DHT stimulates TGF-B1, which stimulates collagen enzymes, which further stimulate apoptosis." Does this mean collagen supplements could potentially be bad for hair?

Answer: Collagen supplements are fine, the problem is collagenase enzymes (MMP-9).

Do I need to take Bioperine with Curcumin?

Answer: I have some concerns about bioperine and taking regular curcumin is fine. You might want to add Resveratrol to offer additional benefits from curcumin.

Is fermented soy powder preferred over Soy Isoflavone supplements? Yes, although you really don't need the soy.

I dropped the following supplements over the past year out of neglect, do you think any of them are worth while for hair, health, or skin? Choline&Insitol, Pantothenic Acid, Coenzyme A.

Answer: These are not necessary, instead would opt for a natural source of b-complex, such as brewer's yeast.

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Post  europe on Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:54 pm

Just a question aside that could also interest iluvhair :

Probiotic ESP Jarrows : it says 1-4 a day divided in doses.

Taking before meal preferably on empty stomach during the day, ok, but how many do you suggest ? 1, 2, 3 4 more ? a loading dose ?
let's say on the long run.....
perhaps 4 a day for few months and One a day for current dose or maintenance, plus considering adding extra pills for heavy/non healthy meals ....
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Post  CausticSymmetry on Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:00 pm

europe - I think one a day is usually enough. I'll take extra if I'm eating garbage foods.

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Post  iluvhair on Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:18 pm

thank you thank you thank you!

MMP-9 - Inhibiting this, is this just beneficial to hair growth or is it beneficial to fighting the cause of MPB? Same goes for inhibiting TGF-Beta1? Reading through your studies I couldn't come to a conclusion, aptosis and cell death kept popping up, but I know that aptosis is a part of the regular hair growth cycle, and is normal. Perhaps you know if the aptosis that these are involved with is part of the normal hair growth cycle or is MPB specific, and if there's any preventative measure taken when inhibiting them.

The reason I am keen on soy, is I do have high T levels (and higher because of Fin), not to mention I like the androgynous look, definately prefer less body hair, smoother skin, more boyish looks, etc. But I'm going to be careful as I know low T levels are bad. I also want to try Peppermint/Spearmint tea, hopefully it's safer than Spiro.

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Post  edony on Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:24 am

Iherb no longer sells the smaller Jarrows EPS 60 caps version?
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Post  edony on Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:13 am

CS- How did you feel about the Healthy Origins probiotic?
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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:50 am

edony - I noticed that Jarrow EPS stopped the 60 count as well. I just placed a Healthy Origins probiotic order yesterday. I tried some samples a month or two back and really dug it. It's better value for the money based on the bacteria count for those strains.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:55 am

iluvhair wrote:thank you thank you thank you!

MMP-9 - Inhibiting this, is this just beneficial to hair growth or is it beneficial to fighting the cause of MPB? Same goes for inhibiting TGF-Beta1? Reading through your studies I couldn't come to a conclusion, aptosis and cell death kept popping up, but I know that aptosis is a part of the regular hair growth cycle, and is normal. Perhaps you know if the aptosis that these are involved with is part of the normal hair growth cycle or is MPB specific, and if there's any preventative measure taken when inhibiting them.

The reason I am keen on soy, is I do have high T levels (and higher because of Fin), not to mention I like the androgynous look, definately prefer less body hair, smoother skin, more boyish looks, etc. But I'm going to be careful as I know low T levels are bad. I also want to try Peppermint/Spearmint tea, hopefully it's safer than Spiro.

Testosterone really isn't the enemy. Of course the body hair could be a done side, however if you suppress your T with some of these things, you might acquire some sides such as libido and chest changes.

Ecklonia Cava is an extremely power inhibition of MMP-9. Curcumin is a potent inhibitor of TGF-beta. Apoptosis can be routine and abnormal, the degree is the length of a typical cell cycle.

Instead of Spirolactone, you can control aldosterone using more healthy measures.

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Post  iluvhair on Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:15 am

So would you consider inhibiting MMP-9 and TGF-Beta1 as preventative measures or growth acceleration / anagen elongation?

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:22 am

iluvhair - These are the inflammatory reactions from DHT, so by inhibiting them, you're preventing hair loss.

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