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Post  goten574 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:53 am

This is not about my hair so sorry for posting this but I would like some opinions. About a week and a half ago, I noticed after peeing, I had the feeling that I still had more to let out, despite not drinking any fluids. My bladder never feels completely empty and I have the feeling to urine much more than often. I could go for a pee, leave the bathroom, and then return 30 seconds later but only a few drops would come out. There is no pain when I urinate nor any blood and I don't experience any pain on my back or elsewhere.

I decided to see a doctor and brought with me a sample of my morning urine. The doctor inserted a white strip into the sample and reported that nothing appears to be wrong but my urine sample would be sent off to the lab for further tests. I was giving 200mg of Trimethoprim just in case it was an infection and was told to take 2 a day for 3 days. I also bought 2 litres of pure Cranberry Juice.

Although I believe there was a slight improvement, my problem was still present after taking the pills. I will contact the doctor tomorrow and see if my urine has been tested but what if it comes back with no problems? Is this Prostate Cancer? Prostate enlargement? Diabetes? I know it's hard to say but any advice? I am male, aged 23.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:36 am

goten574 - Antibiotics can sometimes cause more problems than they solve. I would suggest trying SSKI, at 6 drops every few hours for up to 48-hours, however usually should be fixed within 24.

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Re: O/T - Frequent Urination and Bladder Never Feels Empty

Post  goten574 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:54 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - Antibiotics can sometimes cause more problems than they solve. I would suggest trying SSKI, at 6 drops every few hours for up to 48-hours, however usually should be fixed within 24.

I took the pills because the doctor suggested it. What would SSKI do for me? Why did you suggest this?

I forgot to mention that my urine stream is generally thin and weak when I first start urinating. If i had fluids recently though, my urine stream is thick and a lot stronger.

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Post  goten574 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:33 pm

Is there no edit button on this forum?

I did some searching and SSKI is suppose to elimate 95% of bladder infections. If i have an infection, this would be a good choice but where do I purchase it from? I live in the UK and cannot find a website selling it. I did find this: http://www.iherb.com/World-Organic-Liquid-Potassium-Iodide-2-fl-oz-59-ml/7775?at=0 but not sure if that's it.

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Post  goten574 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:43 am

Can someone please help me find some SSKI to buy? I found this?

http://www.tahomadispensary.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=110067!162&color=N%2FA&size=N%2FA&subsize=

but it's pretty expensive. I did find one from another website but it says I needed a prescription. Doesn't any UK site sell this?

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:29 am

goten574 - Tri-Quench is the right stuff:

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It will last you a long time, I've purchased mine a few years ago and still have a decent amount left.

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Re: O/T - Frequent Urination and Bladder Never Feels Empty

Post  goten574 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:43 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - Tri-Quench is the right stuff:

http://www.tahomadispensary.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=110067!162

It will last you a long time, I've purchased mine a few years ago and still have a decent amount left.

Before I think about purchasing, I'd like to ask you ir anyone else here some a few questions:

1) The results of my urine test came back negative (nothing odd was found) does this mean this is NOT caused by an infection? or could an infection still be the cause despite not being found in the urine sample?

2) Would the following be discovered in a urine test?

- Staph (Staphylococcus)
- Strep (Streptococcus B)
- Yeast
- e-coli

3) I am having an ultrasound scan soon, one with a full bladder and another after I've been to the toilet. Could an infection be seen in this scan?

4) If there is no way an infection is causing this, there is no need for SSKI right?

thanks and I would so so grateful for a prompt response.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:51 am

goten574 - You bring up a good point, and it's quite possible you have prostatitis. There is a technique that is beginning to become instinct because doctors would rather prescribe a medicine that use the "old fashioned" massage. I found a site that describes it.

http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html

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Re: O/T - Frequent Urination and Bladder Never Feels Empty

Post  kijumn on Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:02 am

goten574,

If you're chelating heavy metals, mercury causes frequent urination.

Also, if you changed your diet dramatically, oxalates leaving your body also cause frequent urination. Alternatively, kidney stones.

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Post  goten574 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:58 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - You bring up a good point, and it's quite possible you have prostatitis. There is a technique that is beginning to become instinct because doctors would rather prescribe a medicine that use the "old fashioned" massage. I found a site that describes it.

http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html

I think I'll pass on the massage, too many risks and it sounds dangerous. I will look into prostatitis and learn more about it. If you could give me answers to the 4 questions above, I would appreciate it as I need to find out.

jdp710 wrote:goten574,

If you're chelating heavy metals, mercury causes frequent urination.

Also, if you changed your diet dramatically, oxalates leaving your body also cause frequent urination. Alternatively, kidney stones.

What in my diet could cause this? I don't know what oxalates are so i will find out but my diet has not changed in ages. If I had kidney stones, wouldn't I be experiencing pain when I touch around that area?

If you could give me answers to the 4 questions above, I would appreciate it as I need to find out.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:38 am

goten574 - If you have prostatitis, it is not always associated an infection, but very often is. That's when SSKI would help. If you have a bladder infection, then SSKI will help.

Typically bacteria like e-coli is found in these types of infections.

nonbacterial prostatitis treatment option usually involve poisons (anti-inflammatories), prostate message is generally quite safe.

However, there is also a potential problem with the bladder, although usually there is pain associated with this.

I would expect your scan to reveal whether there is residual urine and how much, or if none at all.

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Post  Paradox on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:25 am

jdp710 wrote:goten574,

If you're chelating heavy metals, mercury causes frequent urination.

Also, if you changed your diet dramatically, oxalates leaving your body also cause frequent urination. Alternatively, kidney stones.

Wow, Is that what that is? Since I started the LPA and MCP the other day I have been taking leaks constantly. Is that positive confirmation of high mercury?

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Post  goten574 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:10 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - If you have prostatitis, it is not always associated an infection, but very often is. That's when SSKI would help. If you have a bladder infection, then SSKI will help.

Typically bacteria like e-coli is found in these types of infections.

nonbacterial prostatitis treatment option usually involve poisons (anti-inflammatories), prostate message is generally quite safe.

However, there is also a potential problem with the bladder, although usually there is pain associated with this.

I would expect your scan to reveal whether there is residual urine and how much, or if none at all.

Thanks very much for your help but before I purchase SSKI, I need to know is it possible to have a bladder infection EVEN THOUGH my urine sample showed nothing wrong?

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:27 am

goten574 - Based on your information, wouldn't place an order for SSKI.

The scan will at least reveal is there's retention, however if bacteria is not found, then SSKI would be of use.

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Re: O/T - Frequent Urination and Bladder Never Feels Empty

Post  goten574 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:36 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - Based on your information, wouldn't place an order for SSKI.

The scan will at least reveal is there's retention, however if bacteria is not found, then SSKI would be of use.

Ok, I won't buy SSKI if that's your thought but I am now confused. I thought SSKI is useful to kill bacteria? but you say if bacteria is NOT found then buy SSKI?

I'm thinking about buying cranberry capsules from Holland and Barrett, I can go down there tomorrow and start taking it right away. Cranberry juice is too expensive.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:47 am

goten574 - I must have made a typo, and now I realize how you asked a similar question twice (sorry).

I wouldn't buy SSKI if there's no infection (bacteria).

The same applies to cranberry, wouldn't bother with it. SSKI will trumped cranberry by a factor of a 100, so if it does turn out to be bacteria, then go for the SSKI.

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Re: O/T - Frequent Urination and Bladder Never Feels Empty

Post  goten574 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:01 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - I must have made a typo, and now I realize how you asked a similar question twice (sorry).

I wouldn't buy SSKI if there's no infection (bacteria).

The same applies to cranberry, wouldn't bother with it. SSKI will trumped cranberry by a factor of a 100, so if it does turn out to be bacteria, then go for the SSKI.

No problem about the typo. If there is no way I could have an infection because the urine sample was clean then it must be something else, probably one of the other things suggested. The reason why I mentioned Cranberry was because it is much cheaper to buy than SSKI and I could start using it immediately (which I can't do if I order SSKI from the states) If I could get SSKI tomorow, I would but I cannot. I will wait for the ultrasound I guess.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:57 pm

goten574 - An alternative to both SSKI & Cranberry is D-Mannose, however unlike SSKI, it only works 80% of the time, but blows cranberry out of the water.

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Post  goten574 on Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:16 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - An alternative to both SSKI & Cranberry is D-Mannose, however unlike SSKI, it only works 80% of the time, but blows cranberry out of the water.

so if I hace an infection, this:

http://www.iherb.com/uri-active-cranberry-concentrate-formula-60-capsules/13256?at=0

would be an ok substitute for SSKI?

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Post  LogicSystem on Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:19 am

Wow I kinda can't believe what Im reading here; urine samples, bladder ultra sounds. Did the doctor give you a digital rectal exam to feel your prostate? Or did I miss that part somewhere? It should been one of the 1st things he did and he would have know right away if it is prostatis (which it sounds like it is). I had a prostate infection probably around the your age. I was put on anti biotics and then given the ultra sound after I finished my cycle to make sure I was emptying. Be careful Goten with the people on this forum suggesting supplements and this or that, if the doc says you need anti biotics then take em, just be sure to take pro biotics when you're finished but I still cant see how a prostate exam was skipped. If it was I'd say find a new doc. Was he a urologist?

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Post  goten574 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:31 am

LogicSystem wrote:Wow I kinda can't believe what Im reading here; urine samples, bladder ultra sounds. Did the doctor give you a digital rectal exam to feel your prostate? Or did I miss that part somewhere? It should been one of the 1st things he did and he would have know right away if it is prostatis (which it sounds like it is). I had a prostate infection probably around the your age. I was put on anti biotics and then given the ultra sound after I finished my cycle to make sure I was emptying. Be careful Goten with the people on this forum suggesting supplements and this or that, if the doc says you need anti biotics then take em, just be sure to take pro biotics when you're finished but I still cant see how a prostate exam was skipped. If it was I'd say find a new doc. Was he a urologist?

My first appointment was with a female doctor (my current doctor was absent) she gave me the anti-biotics and sent off my urine sample to the lab. When I returned, I saw my official doctor. He originally told me the problem would clear itself but I wasn't pleased with that so he rang a radiologist and suggested I have an ultrasound. My prostate was not mentioned at all, but this sounds like a prostate problem? Something like an enlarged prostate? If so, is this permanent?

I still think it's an infection because I went swimming a few weeks ago and spent a large amount of time in wet shorts. To make matters worse, I wore the same shorts the next day (still damp). I understand now this is a foolish thing to do and do not know if this is related to my problem.

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Post  goten574 on Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:35 am

I had my ultrasound scan today and I will discuss this in a minute, but first I want to tell you what I've been trying to cure this problem.

1) I have been taking two capsules per day for the past month almost of Lifetime Uri-Active which contain per two capsules:

Cranberry Fruit Concentrate (10:1) 100mg
D-Mannose 300mg
Dandelion root 50mg
Astragalus root 50mg
Buchu leaf (4:1 PE) 50mg
Uva Ursi leaf (4:1 PE) 50mg

This has not helped at all so does this eliminate e-coli? Or is the D-Mannose amount too low to have an effect?

2) I purchased Swanson Oregano oil and started taking it for around 3 weeks now, but there is no mention of Carvacrol amount so I later purchased Nature's Way Oregano Oil and have been taking this for approximately 2 weeks. Nature's Way supplement contains per capsule:

Oregano Oil (75%-85% Carvacrol) 50mg
Flaxseed Oil 25mg

I usually take one a day as this is the recommended amount but I have taken two on some days. This also has not helped, so does this eliminate Yeast, Staphylococcus and Streptococcus? Or is the dose too low? Or perhaps it is too soon to tell?

3) For the past 3 weeks, I've been eating Muller Vitality yoghurt 5 times a week which has both Probiotics and Prebiotics. I know this isn't going to compare to a Probiotic supplement but I wanted a yoghurt for pack lunch at work so may as well select a good one.

Now for the ultrasound which unfortunately was not the way I was told it's going to be. I was told I have to come in with a full bladder, have a scan, pee then come back for another scan. What actually happened is I only had one scan, when my bladder felt moderately full. What's odd is the nurse said there was actually very little liquid in my bladder at the time but it certainly didn't feel like it. I wasn't bursting to pee but I would have went if I had the option. Both my kidneys were scanned also but nothing odd was found.

Does the Ultrasound eliminate kidney problems? Should I ask my doctor to book a second ultrasound to see how much urine is left in my bladder after urination? I should have demanded a second scan after peeing but for some reason, this did not come into my mind at the time. I guess I was too pleased that no problem with my kidneys was discovered.

After all this, is it still possible this could be an infection or some bacteria? Or would the ultrasound pick this up? I was recommended SSKI when I first posted but was put off by how difficult and expensive it would be to post to the UK. How does SSKI compare to Oregano Oil? (75-85% Carvacrol)

Is Prostatitis the likely cause? Is the only option for this a prostate massage? I really don't want to have this done but will if I need to.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:49 am

The dose for D-Mannose is 2 grams (2,000 mg).

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Post  goten574 on Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:18 am

I noticed an error in my last message, the Cranberry dosage is 1000mg not 100mg.

CausticSymmetry wrote:The dose for D-Mannose is 2 grams (2,000 mg).

Thanks for replying, although I am disappointed that I wrote two fairly long messages and the only reply I got was a single line. I still have many questions that have not been answered Crying or Very sad. Please don't think I am demanding answers from you, I just respect your input greatly because I know how knowledgeable you are in human health.

Please could you or someone else answer the questions below?

1) D-Mannose is only effective against e-coli right? and 300/600mg per day you say is no where near enough to be effective against an e-coli based UTI? (even with 1000-2000mg Cranberry extract) Should I purchase a higher dose D-Mannose supplement?

2) If I have e-coli and the D-Mannose didn't help because my dosage was too low, why hasn't the Oregano Oil (75-85% Carvacrol) helped? I hear Oregano Oil is also effective against Yeast, Staphylococcus and Streptococcus.

3) If I have an e-coli, wouldn't it have spread to my kidneys by now? (considering i've had this problem for over 2 months) Ultrasound came back clear

4) After all this, is it still possible this could be an infection or some bacteria? Or would the ultrasound pick this up? I was recommended SSKI when I first posted but was put off by how difficult and expensive it would be to post to the UK. How does SSKI compare to Oregano Oil? (75-85% Carvacrol)

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:19 am

goten574 - Just noticed that you wrote quite a bit of information.

If it is any sort of UTI, SSKI will knock it out faster than anything.

Tri-Quench is very useful stuff, it's worth owning even if you only need it to get rid of this.

However, if the problem is related to an inflammed prostate, due to protatitis, then prostate massage is a viable method.

D-Mannose is only effective for 80% of UTI bacterial infections.

SSKI trumps Carvacrol. It will work 100% of the time for UTI within 24-hours.

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