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scalp bacteria, demodex, malassezia yeast: best way to get rid of it! :(

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scalp bacteria, demodex, malassezia yeast: best way to get rid of it! :(

Post  RobHealthMan on Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:41 pm

hi CS, jdp, others,

what can i do to stop some itching, flaking recently?

topicals? internals?

thanks guys!

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Re: scalp bacteria, demodex, malassezia yeast: best way to get rid of it! :(

Post  LittleFighter on Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:22 pm

Rob,

I think you should try Iodine, topically (internally too!).


I have some experience with IOSOL, not with Lugol's. What I can tell you is that unlike Lugol's, IOSOL is water soluble and doesn't stain your skin or clothes, that means it can be washed easily. I remember some people inside this forum have used Lugol's topically without problems either, but I think Lugol's is more staining. Also, IOSOL is cheaper, so is a great option to use when trying it topically since you might need to use more.

Grab a spray bottle and add some water plus a few drops of Iodine. Experiment with the strength, usually you can measure it by looking at the color of the mixture. Spray it on your scalp and distribute it all over. Leave it for a few minutes, overnight if you can. In the morning, ideally, add two drops or more of iodine to the shampoo you use and mix it in your hand. Then just wash as usual, you may leave the shampoo a few minutes before rinsing (specially if you're using a nice natural shampoo), maybe 3 on your head to let the iodine work.

Just note that Iosol is weaker than lugol's, so when using the latter you would need to use less. After usuing iosol for a few days, I cant assure you it doesn't sting or burn at any concentration.

This is some great information from Ted of earthclinic:

04/11/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Holly:

A fungus, whether it's candida or yeast infections generally grows at pH at 5 or below. However, an active pH will grow in the range around pH of 3.5 to 5. Now ACV vinegar's pH without water has a pH of about 3.5. If it's mixed with water the pH rises to around 4- 5, which is the active or optimum growth of pH. To kill a fungus, however, my methods generally used either a simple distilled vinegar, or ACV that's undiluted to make sure the pH is below 4. However the most common pH I do used is generally at alkaline pH where it's pH is about 9 or above. A milk of magnesia solution (whichis Magnesium hydroxide) for example has pH of 9.5-10. The pH differentials between an optimum pH of fungus whose pH is 5.0 or below for example is at least 4.5 differentials, killing more fungus more effectively. This is why my approach as generally been alkaline. Most biological systems are limited by three things that Mother Nature employs for the last billion year. You can say it's the billion year old remedy to rid of most pathogen and it doesn't have to use any toxic chemicals either. She uses three things: salinity, temperature and pH.

I recently had one person in Thailand who had a fungal skin problem that simply does not work using any known antifungals or antibiotic therapy and spent the last 2 weeks in the hospital without relief. And had a severe itch, the kind that you would want to tear the skin off the body as in the movie Hellraiser and liked it. The remedy that was used was a milk of magnesia solution (that's 8% magnesium hydroxide) and generally without dilution that's applied to the area and the itch is removed. The condition was finally relieved on the second day after suffering for over a month. To help reduce some biofilms an addition of 10% xylitol powder (pure) or mannitol is mixed into the solution, then is applied. The fungus that smells the worse, at least for me is the black mold fungus, which is found in most houses with a flooded basement, leaky roof itches and smell green.

There is another stronger remedy I used if the above remedy is not used. It's the 10% addition of ammonium bicarbonate, but if that's not available then it's ammonium chloride 10%. This produces a burning and stinging sensation, which is one way I test for presence of fungus. When they die, it produces that sensation for a couple of minutes. But in a long term fungus that goes really deep in the skin, it's going to last longer.

There is another one I found that maybe required also. In event of a severe entire body skin fungus infections. Currently these agressive fungus is unresponsive to most conventional therapy anyway, but the remedy is quite simple: 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt in 1/2 glass of water. Some people may experience headaches if taken too much, but it seems people who do have fungus that I know of (there may be exceptions) don't have problem and can easily take 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt in 1/2 glass of water 3 times a day. This is the second method that mother nature has employed by making thing alkaline, which is why the ocean's water are so sterile. You don't see spoiling oceans in general. That's because of hyperosmality or high salinity that kills most of the pathogens. Besides mother' pH in the Ocean is 8.0 exactly, but with this Global Warming (more like solar system warming that occurs whenever our solar system crosses the gravitational plane of the milky way), the ocean's water becomes more acid to pH of 7.8 due to increased carbon dioxide, mostly from warming of the sun's radiation as more frequent gravitational disruption on the sun's surface to cause more solar radiation, sending more to earth causing dried plants to burn slowly resulting in increased Co2, causing more acid ocean, but still a sterile one. Even a mixture of sea salt and adding baking soda with milk of magnesia to get a pH of 8, like the real ocean can also get similar results too. Although a salt stings the eye, much like our shampoo, since they use salt (sodium chloride) as a shampoo thickener, instead of the superior anti fungal ammonium salts used as a shampoo thickener on the issue of getting nicer smell as ammonium salts give off undesirable, but weak ammonia odors.

The simplest of all remedy even without a milk of magnesia, but a much milder solution is to prepare a baking soda solution, say 10% and no rinsing of solution. Yeast are generally acid in nature and survive at pH of 5. The problem about his is most cosmetic makers know that the skin's pH is 5.5, which is a pH that is very close to optimum conditions of the fungus growth. So if a person who had a history of yeast infection, high sugar and eat acid forming food, or bicarbonate depleting foods such as cola, then the pH of the skin can easily drop below 5.5 to a level optimum for fungus growth. Hence, my favorite approach of eliminating fungus has been alkaline approach, due to pH diffeerntial as well as maybe drink sea salt, to keep the body more saline, and perhaps at different times, after sea salt I may take 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda twice or three times a day. A sea salt and baking soda can't be mixed together as they have a laxative effect.

Therefore, alkalinity and salinity is the common approach. But if I am bound by tradition then the proper use of a vinegar is not to dilute otherwise the pH will be close to optimum fungus condition for growth around 4.5-5. Most pathogens, regardless of what they are fungus or bacteria, can't generally survive at pH above 9, or preferably at 9.5 that is generally harmless to larger organism. But pathogens are pH and osmolarity sensitive.

Ted"

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Re: scalp bacteria, demodex, malassezia yeast: best way to get rid of it! :(

Post  tao81 on Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:37 pm

topical roxi...

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Re: scalp bacteria, demodex, malassezia yeast: best way to get rid of it! :(

Post  Whip on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:43 am

Don't use milk of magnesia on your scalp - it is amazing for the face though and will clean your pores and dry everything out (although you will have a slight dracula-like paleness afterwards).

Topical mag oil is the way to go on this one if you're going to do it.

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