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what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  big mike on Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:07 pm

I hadn't paid much attention to the fact I may have had mercury fillings, but I just contacted my dentist and apparently I had two amalgram fillings replaced about 4 years ago and still have two more. So I have a few questions:

If they previous ones were removed incorrectly, what should I do now? Humifulvate? Is there any stronger measures?

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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  CausticSymmetry on Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:27 pm

big mike - If you have no more fillings, then you can use OSR (Oxidative stress relief), otherwise use humifulvate.

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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  big mike on Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:39 pm

CS,

Are you familiar with the precautions that should be practiced for amalgam removal? I want to make sure the dentist I choose follows the right procedures.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:52 pm

big mike - If the dentist has the right training, he/she would know about positive and negative charges, and to be sure the proper order of extraction. They would also be familiar with blood chemistry so that the appropriate material is used for the individual if a filling replacement is needed.

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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  mphatesmpb on Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:56 pm

How do I know if my dentist is qualified to remove amalgams? Is there some kind of national database indicating which dentists have the training/expertise for safe amalgam removal?

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:10 am

mphatesmpb - It's currently against the law to advertise that you remove mercury.

If you contact these people, they will tell you who to see.

http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/alliancedentist.php

Or you can try:

http://amalgam.org/

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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  mphatesmpb on Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:37 am

CS,

Can you say more about these things that you mentioned in your post above:
-positive and negative charges
-proper order of extraction
-individual blood testing to determine the correct material to use as amalgam replacement

I contacted the people at
http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/alliancedentist.php. They recommended a dentist who seems to have quite an impressive protocol for amalgam removal - he uses extremely rigid safety procedures. But his website does not mention anything about factors considered before actually replacing the amalgams.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:40 am

mphatesmpb - If he is Dr. Huggin's referred, he sounds good.

Regarding the positive and negative charges. If a problem tooth is removed in the wrong order, it can cause a disruption in neurological activity, or create an interference field.

For example, some problem teeth can be pathogenically linked to neurological diseases (especially if there is a predisposition), such as Parkinson's, MS, ALS, etc.

The positive and negative charges are like a battery. If removed in the wrong order can be a problem.

Regarding biologically compatible materials, if filling material is replaced, blood testing will be used to determine immunologic reaction, such as lymphocyte reaction to various materials. This determines the sensitivity of the potential dental material. One person's poison maybe another's compatible material.


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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  mphatesmpb on Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:05 pm

CS,

What do you make of the fact that composite materials used to replace dental amalgams contain synthetic estrogen-mimicking compounds? Supposedly Bisphenol-A is a major component of composites that are available. I've read that ceramic dental fillings, on the other hand, do not contain BPA. But they are also much more expensive.

I e-mailed the dentist recommended to me by hugginsappliedhealing.com and asked him about all of the stuff you mentioned (proper order of extraction, blood testing, etc.) and about the estrogen issue, and this was his response:



About the blood compatibility testing, yes we do offer that to our patients. It
is something that isn't mandatory, but I do recommend it to be done. And the
BPA that you are speaking of, here is how it works. BPA is used to make almost
EVERY dental composite to form something called BIS-GMA. The BIS-GMA is a
stable compound and doesn't release BPA until heated to nearly 250 degrees
Farenheit! So the BPA in these materials in my mind, isn't really an issue and
the materials that I usually use, the manufacturer also states there is no BPA.

I am aware of sequential removal and I can/do test the fillings for negative
charge. I can't really explain what it means (it is pretty complex involving
sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system response), but know and have read
similar things that you have.



He claims that BPA isn't released until the material is heated to 250 degrees fahrenheit, but we can't be certain that this property will hold in the long term: perhaps after several years the BPA will be more volatile?

What would you recommend? Should I just go for the ceramic fillings?

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:15 pm

mphatesmpb - If the ceramic is real, should be okay. Beware of porcelain, which some call ceramic, because it contains aluminum oxide.

I believe it is true that BPA isn't released until the material is heated to 250 degrees fahrenheit, but I also understand that there was a potent amount of exposure at that level. What the safe level of heat is, I'm not sure.


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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  LA-Night on Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:04 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:mphatesmpb - If the ceramic is real, should be okay. Beware of porcelain, which some call ceramic, because it contains aluminum oxide.

I believe it is true that BPA isn't released until the material is heated to 250 degrees fahrenheit, but I also understand that there was a potent amount of exposure at that level. What the safe level of heat is, I'm not sure.



CS,

If someone has porcelain, what supplements should they take for protection from aluminum oxide?

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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:27 am

LA-Night - Vitamin C in the form of Magnesium ascorbate or Calcium ascorbate work very well as aluminium chelators.

Fluoride makes aluminium much more bio-available.



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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  MAO on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:24 am

I've spent ages deciding whether or not to remove my amalgams. I had several appointments with 'amalgam removal' dentists (spent lots already!) and from my own research decided that ceramic (using Cerec technology) would be the best option.

It was through looking at the data sheets of the available composite based products (plastic Bis-GMA etc) that I decided this. I was concerned that I would be replacing toxin 1 for toxin 2 and therefore not make much of a gain by having a mouth full of plastic. The complexity of the chemical components in these composites is worrying for somebody that believes in natural solutions to EVERYTHING!

However, I postponed my decision when I found out that more natural tooth would have to be removed when having ceramic replacements - all of my fillings are very shallow, so this concerned me. Retaining as much natural tooth as possible is obviously very desirable. Also, the bonding agent used for ceramic would be of a similar chemical composition to that used for composites and therefore the avoidance of BIS-GMA and other nasties would not be achieved despite the very high cost of the procedure.

I've had these amalgams in place since I was in my early teens (I'm nearly 40 now) and never had hair loss issues until my early thirties). It's very hard working out the cause, but I think that the timing of my hair loss issue relates to the many vaccines I had over a short period of time (for work requirements). Maybe this just pushed my toxic load too far? Who knows? I am continuing to chelate anyway because I live in London (mega polluted) and must have bio accumulated loads of metals over the years anyway. My health otherwise is excellent.

I am still leaning towards amalgam replacement, but there will always be additional potential issues to worry about. The whole estrogenic BPA thing puts me off, but if BIS-GMA really does not release BPA then maybe I don't need to worry. It's very hard working out what is right when money is in control of the truth (even for naturopathic solutions sometimes).

CS, any thoughts on the validity of Kinesiology for determining bio-compatibility or are blood tests better?

Sorry about the long post.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:19 pm

MAO - I think you raise a good question. Is it really worth it, and the answer could be a matter of need. Also, many dentists around the world have totally different procedures. The best is blood chemistry tests to evaluate compatible materials, however that is simply not available in most places. Kinesiology for determining bio-compatibility is an excellent alternative when blood testing is not available.

If you're otherwise healthy enough, your body can handle it, especially if you're eliminating more mercury than you're absorbing. On the other hand, if symptoms of fatigue, depression, memory, brain fog were to be issues, that would suggest there is an impact.

The dental problems that are of real concern are cavitations, root canals and infected crowns. Everyone handles these differentially.

Mercury fillings are no where near as bad as these infections. When mercury is mixed with copper, it increases the mercury threat one thousand-fold, so that is something to consider also. Of course, the problem there is that most dentists have no idea of the exact composition of their composite fillings, unless they use the same supplier each and every time, but usually they can use what is available at the time.


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Re: what to do if amalgam fillings were removed incorrectly?

Post  MAO on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:30 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:

If you're otherwise healthy enough, your body can handle it, especially if you're eliminating more mercury than you're absorbing. On the other hand, if symptoms of fatigue, depression, memory, brain fog were to be issues, that would suggest there is an impact.



Thanks for the input CS. So would the above neurological conditions be the primary symptoms of a toxic load of mercury? I don't have any of these symptoms. My hair loss is the only reason I am interested in the mercury issue and I don't want to change my fillings only to find no improvement in the condition. It's a lot of money to spend.

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