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Post  kijumn on Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:16 am

Here are some new recordings by Dr. Mark Stark ... or new to me.

http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=44413

http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=44414





Here are some old recordings regarding Iodine for those that haven't heard them

http://curezone.com/ig/f.asp?f=1723

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Post  TK on Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:41 pm

Hey JDP,

thanks for the find - I am listening to the interview right now. I am a little disheartened about the whole thyroid issue right now. I have been on high dose lugols for about six months and my moening temp is still 96.5! Damn! I know that if I could correct this I would have real health benefits. I received my oximeter a fewdays ago, and as strange as this might sound, was a little disappointed that I consistently get 98% and with an ozone water drink 99%. I was hoping that by boosting my oxygenation my body temp would go up to normal but that doesnt appear to be the problem. Sigh...


Anyway, I hope you are well. I have been appreciating your recent posts- stellar info as always!

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Post  kijumn on Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:04 am

Hey Tk,

Yeah, I hear you about Iodine/Selenium in regards to correcting hypothyroid. I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate but I remember a post on curezone mentioning that one of the Iodine docs made a statement that in his practice that 33% of his patients are able to get off their thyroid medication, 33% are better but still need some thyroid medication, while the other 33% there is no change.

I believe the numbers will be much higher on high dose Iodine though as it will kick out the very detrimental flouride. Although, with flouride, you would will want to take boron ... said to be the antidote but of course you need enough Iodine, preferably a lot due to flouride's weight being very heavy. By the way, I personally fell under the category of better but not cured regarding Iodine/selenium supplementation.

Anyway, IMO/IME I believe it gets more complicated then just recommending Iodine and selenium regarding hypothyroid.

Just one instance according to one website, his theory was pretty convincing regarding potassium deficiency and hypothyroid.

A quote "The initial effects of long-term potassium deficiency cause hypothyroidism but when the deficiency gets severe, hyperthyroidism results"

More info and highly recommended info = http://www.ithyroid.com/latest_ideas.htm

I'm bet most on this forum who are experiencing hair loss are also low in potassium.


I've posted some info about potassium but in short, here is some good quotes

"It is quite conceivable that allergens damage the kidneys' ability to retain potassium."

"Patients with low phosphate often also have hypokalaemia [low potassium]."

"Naturally when refined sugars are consumed, potassium levels drop. Carbohydrate can certainly elevate aldosterone, leading to low potassium levels as well."

and this quote

"correction of thyroid hormone levels results in correction of potassium levels." but what if it's the other way around as the ithyroid link above theorized.

Also, I definitely would avoid long hot showers as that is a "very" significant source of chlorine if your water has chlorine in it. Shower filters only remove so much chlorine at hot temperatures. Besides, chlorine causing hypothyroid, it's also very detrimental regarding our bodies negative hydrogen storage causing all sorts of problems. Flouride is also extremely detrimental in that regard as well. Anyway, there are many people mentioning great benefits from taking cold showers and one of the reasons could be due to chlorine ----> hypothyroid. Here are 135 testimonials on cold showers http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/showers.html


Regarding how I corrected my hypothyroid, I believe it was mostly due to avoidance of high and extremely high oxalates. However, it's possible that avoidance of MSG/free glutamic acid, gluten and others had there role as well in reversing my mild hypothyroid. Regarding Iodine, besides using Lugol's or Iosol, you can try Nascent Iodine such as "1%" magnascent.com or this nascent one thyroidnascentiodine.com The reason being is this quote below and there are plenty on curezone mentioning best results with nascent Iodine and using a separate Iodide mixture to keep the halogens at bay, chelating heavy metals such as mercury, etc..

Here's a quote "the body recognizes this atom as the same nascent iodine it produces in the thyroid in order to make the T3 and T4 hormones."

more info = http://www.thyroidnascentiodine.com/comparison.htm

So again, while Lugol's and high dose Lugol's does work, probably the best formulation based on other experieinces at curezone would be Nascent Iodine and enough Iodide to kick out the competing halogens (bromide, flouride, etc)..

There is also the whole zinc issue as well that some people with hair loss probably have as well. There was a good study posted many months ago on this forum regarding low zinc and hair loss. Gluten messes with zinc. There are others that I can't think of but here is another quote

"It may be helpful to view that excess glutamate [MSG/free glutamic acid] interferes with taurine metabolism. Many of so-called MSG symptomolgy is identical to taurine deficit."

"taurine binds zinc to membrane sites."



Mercury is also linked to hypothyroid. Enough Iodine/Iodide will stir it up. Selenium or preferably Selenomethionine will greatly help in getting it out of your body.

Regarding oxgentation, hypothyroid conditions are also associated with low zeta potential ----> thicker lymph fluid and coagulation in the blood which will greatly impair oxygenation. Potassium appears to be one that would greatly regarding zeta potential and oxygenation. You'll notice low zeta potential by thicker skin. I can see it in the face and back of hands in those suffering from hair loss who are 30+.

Well, that's about as much as I can think of regarding correcting hypothyroid. Here are some additional quotes

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Thyroid

The thyroid is the key organ of the body other than the kidney which is known to collect oxalates, resulting in compromised function.

Below are listed some articles that show how commonly crystals of oxalate are found in thyroid tissue. The concentration gets higher the older your age. The oxalate in the thyroid gland can render the patient hypothyroid,
but elevations of oxalate may also be associated with developing auto-antibodies to the thyroid co-signalling molecule called p62. Scientists think the p62 level probably becomes elevated after exposure to oxalate because of membrane damage to cells.

http://www.lowoxalate.info/research.html

Oxalate is a highly reactive molecule that is abundant in many plant foods, but in human cells, when it is present in high amounts, it can lead to oxidative damage, depletion of glutathione, the igniting of the immune system's inflammatory cascade, and the formation of crystals which seem to be associated with pain and prolonged injury. Ordinarily, not much oxalate is absorbed from the diet, but the level of absorption has to do with the condition of the gut.


http://www.lowoxalate.info/research.html

CAUSES OF HYPOTHYROIDISM

Many factors can combine to cause hypothyroidism. Here is my list of probable causes:

Insufficient selenium in the diet.
Insufficient zinc in the diet.
Excessive cadmium intake from smoking or possibly from eating large amounts of green leafy vegetables.
Mercury from silver amalgam dental fillings which depletes selenium.
Excessive intake of high copper foods (beans, nuts, etc.), combined with too little zinc and selenium.
Chromium deficiency.
Manganese deficiency.
Iron deficiency.
Cobalt deficiency (vitamin B-12).
Estrogen mimics from environmental and food sources such as from canned foods.
High intake of sulfur compounds in food, water, or air.

Suppressors of thyroid function include....

SOY. He recommends steamed tofu? Tofu SUPPRESSES thyroid function. The only soy one should eat is fermented. Miso, tempeh, etc. Do y'all think that Archer Daniels Midland is powerful enough to have a little say so over the content of "health" segments on TV? I do, hence the plethora of soy "food". Soy meat, soy milk, "energy" bars, textured vegetable protein, soy flour. If you're eating processed foods, you don't stand a chance.

FLUORIDE. Most of the U.S. is fluoridated, foodstuffs are fumigated with sulfuryl fluoride, pesticides contain fluoride, drugs are fluorinated compounds.etc, etc, etc. Fluoride is POISON.

BROMIDE. Brominated flour. Brominated vegetable oil. PDBE's. ETC.

CHLORINE. What's in your water?

MERCURY. One drop is enough to contaminate a 5 acre lake, how much is in your fillings?

Omega 6 fatty acids. Yes, the "good" vegetable oils.

High carbohydrate diet. High carbs create blood sugar problems. There is a direct link between hypoglycemia and hypothyroid.

ENVIRONMENTAL TOXINS. Heavy metals, herbicides, fungicides, ETC!



MSG can damage the hypothalamus as proven by Olney

The hypothalamus is the part of the brain that monitors the body. It is the body's "sensor". Hormones and temperatures are measured and based on this info, the hypothalamus sends out signals to the "master gland" the pituitary located just underneath it, and behind the eyes. The pituitary gland then sends out chemical signals that direct the entire endocrine system. This includes the thyroid, as well as all the other endocrine glands in the body. Damage to the hypothalamus affects the entire body.

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Post  hoppipolla on Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:41 am

This is all fascinating, and is something I am applying a lot to myself as I came up low in the Barnes test and have had skin changes (in as little as 4 days my skin went from thick and healthy-looking to thin and dry, and it hasn't gone back yet), which apparently is also connected with thyroid issues.

My largest suspect really is my stress levels, so my first idea was to try to tackle them in the hope this would at least help my chances if it does turn out my thyroid hormone resistance is too high or my thyroid itself is not giving out enough hormones. I have heard that stress can trigger thyroid issues and it seems logical to me... hmm.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:19 pm

jdp710 - Thanks for the audio streaming link(s). Dr. David Brownstein, who isn't featured on here is probably the only one who adequately explains Hashimoto's disease. Dr. Starr/Apsley is a little behind the curve during the time it was recorded.

Hashimoto's patients actually need more iodine (in case anyone was wondering).

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Re: type 2 hypothyroidism by Dr. Mark Starr

Post  kijumn on Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:53 pm

Thanks for the info CausticSymmetry. I appreciate it.

TK,

Here is some additional info regarding hypothyroidism. Not sure how accurate it is but a good read.

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The Carnivorous Diet & Your Thyroid

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 10:50PM
The single biggest hurdle I had to leap through to begin my carnivorous adventure was the fear of "low-carb induced hypothyroidism". When I began to explore research on the subject, I hit a brick wall of alarmist forum posts and erroneous pub-med articles of varied importance. But the consensus was clear, you must consume dietary carbohydrates to keep your thyroid healthy.

Over the years I learned to listen to my body and it was clearly telling me to restrict carbohydrates. I finally gave in, managed to ignore the fear mongering of conventional wisdom and dropped carbohydrates completely.

The question however is still valid.

Does a carnivorous diet positively or negatively affect the thyroid gland?

There isn't much data pertaining to the thyroid health of subjects who ate close to or a completely carnivorous diet, so I'll be dipping into ketogenic diet and fasting research. The difference being that a ketogenic diet consists of about ~50g of carbohydrates a day with the remaining calories coming from fat and protein. From here on out I will use the terms "carnivorous diet" and "ketogenic diet" interchangeably since in all likelihood they aren't much different.

First lets explore the reasons why we want a healthy thyroid. Here is a quick overview of the functions this butterfly shaped gland performs.

Metabolic Rate - When people say "metabolism", they might as well be saying "thyroid". Within the endocrine system, the thyroid along with the adrenal glands are the biological engines that ultimately direct our hormonal metabolism.
Setting Proteins - The thyroid can increase and decrease the rate of protein degradation.
Creation of Thyroxine (T4) - The thyroid produces a couple of different hormones, the most important being T4 and…
Creation of Triiodothyronine (T3) - T3 is the metabolically active version of T4. T3 is responsible for the thyroids metabolic influencing affects while thyroxine (T4) is considered to be a storage form of T3 waiting to be converted into T3 by the liver.
A carnivorous diet is very similar to the metabolic state the body is in when fasting. Without discussing too much of the technical jargon, a carnivorous diet will lower blood sugar, lower basal insulin, decrease inflammation, balance hormones, reduce oxidative stress and support the immune system. Fasting is the only other method that can match the incredible health promoting effects of a dietary decrease in carbohydrate consumption. The downside to fasting being that you have to eat sometime!

So what happens happens to our thyroid when we fast?

In short, it slows down. And it especially slows down when you decrease calories in tandem.

So what gives? Isn't the slow down of the thyroid what we're trying to avoid?

This is were the forum posting alarmists get it wrong. Fortunately the decline of serum T3 due to fasting is not associated with the disease state known as hypothyroidism.


"Despite the fall in T3 levels, clinical hypothyroidism does not develop. Thyrotropin values do not rise, as might be expected in primary thyroid dysfunction: in fact basal TSH concentrations may decrease in short-term fasting or remain unchanged in prolonged (more than three weeks) fasting. In addition, TSH response to thyrotropin releasing hormone infusions may be blunted or unchanged."
While I'm not always a fan of his work, Lyle McDonald wrote a fantastic book on ketosis. Lyle's research echoes the study above demonstrating that while low-carb diets induce lower numbers of the thyroid hormone T3, it is not related to the disease condition known as hypothyroidism.

Hypothyroidism and euthyroid stress syndrome (ESS) There are two common syndromes associated with low levels of T3 which need to be differentiated from one another. Hypothyroidism is a disease characterized by higher than normal thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) and lower levels of T3 and T4. The symptoms of this disease include fatigue and a low metabolic rate.

The decrease in T3 due to hypothyroidism must be contrasted to the decrease seen during dieting or carbohydrate restriction. Low levels of T3 with normal levels of T4 and TSH (as seen in ketogenic dieting) is known clinically as euthyroid stress syndrome (ESS) and is not associated with the metabolic derangements seen in hypothyroidism (1). The drop in T3 does not appear to be linked to a drop in metabolic rate during a ketogenic diet (17,52).

As with other hormones in the body (for example insulin), the decrease in circulating T3 levels may be compensated for by an increase in receptor activity and/or number (1). This has been shown to occur in mononuclear blood cells but has not been studied in human muscle or fat cells (53). So while T3 does go down on a ketogenic diet, this does not appear to be the reason for a decrease in metabolic rate.

Lyle McDonald (1998) The Ketogenic Diet: A Complete Guide for the Dieter and Practitioner (pp. 48)

The decrease in T3 during fasting is the body adapting to its metabolic condition in order to preserve muscle mass and conserve energy. Remember, the thyroid is also responsible for rate of protein catabolism. The body being as smart as it is, down regulates the thyroid to conserve fuel and protect lean mass.

There is no better example than the steroid abusing muscle heads on the bodybuilding forums I used to frequent. Those who aggressively used Cytomel (prescription T3) for weight loss during a "cut" had less than stellar experiences. I remember vivid accounts from unhappy forum members who used Cytomel for too long and wasted away, due to excessive T3.

The Autoimmune Connection

The most common type of thyroid dysregulation is known as Hashimoto's thyroiditis. This disorder is characterized by the body becoming allergic to thyroid hormones. The body produces antibodies that begin to attack its own thyroid tissue. While little is known about the specific origins of Hashimoto's we can confidently say that ridding the diet of grains (gluten specifically) is of paramount importance.

Gluten is a pro-inflammatory protein found in "heart healthy" whole grains as well as most processed foods. The autoimmune disease, celiac disease, is characterized by eating these foods. Can we stop a second? A disease that increases cancer, osteoporosis, thyroid disease, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, and neurodegenerative states is caused by eating a food that our government tells us to eat 6-11 servings of. Shocking.

Besides avoiding grains, which is done naturally on a carnivorous regime, getting adequate Vitamin D is becoming more and more important. Carnivorous subscribers don't have a bulletproof vest for this one. I don't like recommending supplements, but like Dr. Harris of the PaNu Weblog says:

"Vitamin D is replacement, not supplementation. We are trying to get our 25(OH)D levels up to paleolithic normal which will be above the Neolithic normal."
For an overview, let's head over to Animal Pharm run by the exuberant Dr. BG. If you haven't already subscribed, she is a hoot and you should immediately.

"How to Stop the Autoimmune Process of Hashimoto's

When one of our organs is jacked how do we recover it? Can we induce our immune system to heal and restore function? Certainly! With time, appropriate nutrients and stimulus, I believe depending on the extent of the incurred damage, our bodies have the capacity to regenerate itself. With Vitamin D repletion and Wheat-Cessation, I have observed a trend of improved TSH (including my own from 1.3-1.9 to 1.0 when my 25(OH)D stays above 60 ng/ml). Why? Vitamin D interacts intimately with thyroid, vitamin A/carenoid and other steroid hormone controls, including the sex hormones.
These below nutrients and lifestyle changes have been shown to aid the Thyroid to heal and restore functionality:
stopping wheat which triggers our immune systems: innate+humoral
stopping wheat which triggers genetic expression of stress responses
stopping wheat which results in rapid rises of insulin
stopping gluten/wheat/barley/rye
stopping beans, peanuts, legumes (lectins)
stopping dairy (which contain opioid-like proteins like wheat)
stopping grains (rice, corn, etc) -- which are all grass-derived (*ha * I didn't say WEEDS but that's what I mean)
proper nutrients which are the building-blocks of the Thyroid Gland and Thyroid Enzymes: proteins (taurine, leucine, arginine, OKG, L-carnitine, etc), minerals (IODINE, Mg, Zn, Se, Chromium, Bo, etc)
B-vitamins (including α-lipoic acid)
Vitamin D3 (goal 25(OH)D=70 ng/ml)
Vitamin E (tocopherols, tocotrienols)
Vitamin K1 K2
Vitamin A
Carotenoids (grassfed meat, wild seafood, Krill oil/Astaxanthin)
EPA + DHA (ditto) -- high dose if extreme inflammation is present
Antioxidants (Flavonoids, CoQ10, ALCAR/α-LA, Pycnogenol, etc)
Avoid dietary and environmental toxins (nitrite preservatives, plastic, petroleum, bisphenol, heavy metals (Lead, Mercury), endocrine disrupters, pesticides, dioxins, etc)"
The Adrenal Connection

The adrenals are star-shaped endocrine glands that sit on top of our kidneys. Their main function is to regulate our stress hormones (cortisol, adrenaline) as well as produce several key sex hormones (DHEA, aldosterone).

A common analogie is as follows:

The thyroid controls the rate at which our motors run when in idle.
The adrenals control the rate at which our motors run when in gear.

If you can't function well in gear (stressed out much?) then naturally your body will slow the motor down so you don't blow a gasket (down regulation of the thyroid).

Excessive cortisol production is what we want to prevent when keeping our adrenal glands healthy. Besides leaving the Crackberry at home, getting good sleep, and having a positive outlook, we can minimize cortisol by regulating our blood sugar.

This is of course is done by carbohydrate restriction. A surge of blood sugar induces the sympathetic nervous system into a state of over-arousal causing the adrenal glands to release adrenaline. This shifts your body into a biological state called "fight or flight". When chronically activated this response rewards us with stress induced eating, anxiety, and insomnia. Don't get me wrong, this evolutionary trait is not dangerous, but it's chronic activation with sugary foods is not what evolution intended.

Dietary fat plays a large supporting role in the health of our adrenal glands. In an experiment Hans Selye, M.D., author of The Stress of Life, exposed a large number of rats to environmental and physical stressors over long periods of time to test the resistance of the animals in repeated intervals.

This is what he wrote:

". . . in one experiment we placed a hundred rats in a refrigerated room where the temperature was near freezing. (This causes the animals stress). Thanks to their fur during the first 48 hours they developed the typical manifestations of the alarm reaction. This was proved by killling ten animals at the end of the second day; all of them had large, fat-free adrenals, small thymuses, and stomach ulcers."

Seyle concludes that the adrenals use large amounts of fat during stress. The reason the adrenal glands are surrounded by fat is in order to have the raw materials to synthesize hormones. When the fat is dried up, from chronic stress, we begin to deteriorate and soon after run into adrenal fatigue. Making an effort to consume plenty of essential fatty acids from grass-fed animals will go a long way in the battle of chronic stress and thyroid problems.

Nutritional Deficiencies

Scientists feed animals high carbohydrate diets to induce vitamin and mineral deficiencies. This is no different in humans. When you're body is under stress (high blood sugar, physical or mental stress) the body body will pull reserves of vitamins (vitamin B5), minerals (zinc), and amino acids (lysine, tyrosine, BCAA's) to combat the stress. Cortisol production requires tyrosine, the same amino acid needed to make thyroxine (T4). The bodies need to make cortisol in a "fight or flight" response will always trump the production of thyroid hormones. Essentially the more cortisol the body produces, the less raw materials available to make thyroid hormones.

As I have mentioned before, animal foods contain all the the amino acids, vitamins and minerals, in a bioavailable form that can sustain anyone indefinitely. Forget the vitamin pills and invest in quality meats from local grass-fed farms.

Environmental

My newest fascination has yet again found its way into my posts. Heavy metals (specifically mercury and lead) have devastating impact on adrenal and thyroid function. It has been demonstrated that mercury vapor accumulates in the adrenal cortex of animals causing a large increase in oxidative stress.

The production of steroid hormones from the adrenal glands is mediated by enzymes. Heavy metals are known to interfere with the action of many of these vital enzymes interupting the downstream of adrenal steroid production. Mercury for instance will disable the enzyme cytochrome P-450 which helps convert cholesterol into pregnenolone, a hormone used to make cortisone, aldosterone and DHEA. This enzyme disruption causes hormonal chaos and will last until measures are taken to get rid of the offending metals.

Conclusion

You cannot correct one gland without having a profound effect on another. This is why I believe that nutrition is the best medicine. Optimizing EVERY system in the body is the only way to get everything back on track. Simply treating low thyroid with medication is silly when we can clearly see that the origin can be multifaceted; rooted in stress, allergies, or even environmental pollution.

If you come away with two things from this post let them be that grains are shit and avoid stress whenever possible. A carnivorous diet poses no threat to anyones thyroid. In fact if you are hypothyroid it's likely that you already eat too many carbohydrates, seeming that most cases are autoimmune or stress related in origin. Carbohydrate consumption in the form of easily digestible sugars and gluten containing grains have a negative impact on the thyroid and adrenal glands. My recommendation would be to minimize or eliminate them completely.

Update on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 at 5:19PM by Danny Roddy
Here is a link to the updated post.

A few forum members have pointed out that very low carbohydrate diets cause an elevation in reverse T3 (inactive T3 thyroid hormone). Apparently this is the reason everyone MUST EAT 50 grams of carbohydrates a day.

I will state here, I am not an expert and I don't pretend to be. My point of interest is that zero-carbers have a high success rate. The proclaimed crashing of the metabolism due to elevated reverse T3 does not jive with the real life results. I also reject the idea that low-carbers need to take thyroid pharmaceuticals to be healthy.

Here is a snippet of the study that's being tossed around.

Starvation has a profound effect on thyroid function, causing a decrease in serumT3 concentration and a reciprocal increase in rT3 level. These changes are due to a selective inhibition of the 5’-monodeiodination of iodothyronines by peripheral tis-sues. Reduction in carbohydrate intake rather than total calorie deprivation appearsto be the determinant factor. These alterations in thyroid function are believed to re-duce the catabolic activity of the organism and thus to conserve energy in the face of decreased calorie intake. Chronic malnutrition is accompanied by similar changes.Over feeding has opposite although transient effects.

But wait, there's more.

To evaluate the effect of caloric restriction and dietary composition on circulating T3 and rT3 obese subjects were studied after 7-18 days of total fasting and while on randomized hypocaloric diets (800 kcal) in which carbohydrate content was varied to provide from 0 to 100% calories. As anticipated, total fasting resulted in a 53% reduction in serum T3 in association with reciprocal 58% increase in rT3. Subjects receiving the no-carbohydrate hypocaloric diets for two weeks demonstrated a similar 47% decline in serum T3 but there was no significant change in rT3 with time. In contrast, the same subjects receiving isocaloric diets containing at least 50 g of carbohydrate showed no significant changes in either T3 or rT3 concentration. The decline in serum T3 during the no-carbohydrate diet correlated significantly with blood glucose and ketones but there was no correlation with insulin or glucagon. We conclude that dietary carbohydrate is an important regulatory factor in T3 production in man. In contrast, rT3 concentration is not significantly affected by changes in dietary carbohydrate. Our data suggest that the rise in serum rT3 during starvation may be related to more severe caloric restriction than that caused by the 800 kcal diet.

What we have here is two seemingly good studies, in complete opposition of each other. The later was specifically conducted with individuals eating a zero carb diet.

Both of these studies do not include what the rest of the diet was composed of. Without knowing what the subjects ate, we are left guessing whether they were predominantly eating fat or protein. Dietary fat, the critical macro nutrient for maintaining the health of the adrenal glands, seems like it could potentially alter any outcome of a stress related study.

Again, blaming the lack of the macro nutrient, that likely was the cause of the derangement in the first place is pretty silly. Those with thyroid disorders should be far more concerned with the intimate connection between insulin resistance, cortisol and reverse T3.

The stress hormone cortisol blocks production of T3 and causes an increase in the production of inactive reverse T3. Elevated levels of insulin lead to the over-arousal of the sympathetic nervous system (SNS). Chronic over stimulation of the SNS leads to the unnecessary production of cortisol, pooped adrenals, and eventually a sluggish thyroid.

HIGH BLOOD SUGAR > INSULIN > SNS HYPER-FUNCTION > ANGIOTENSIN II > ACTH ACTIVATION > UNNECESSARY CORTISOL > REVERSE T3

My stream of thought:

Ditch the carbs.
Eat until satisfied.
Eat mostly fat, moderate protein.
Get enough sleep.
Take your vitamin D.
Stay away from gluten.
Call it a day.

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Post  kijumn on Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:52 am

Some good info in this article regarding hypothyrodism and Iodine supplementation and it's companion nutrients

xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/17015531/9904031/name/stephs-new-member-FAQ-pdf-format.pdf

hope this helps

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:13 am

jdp710 - That's a perfect link on iodine!

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Post  tooyoung on Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:19 pm

jdp710 - regarding cold showers, what would I do in the case of baths? We had a shower a few years ago that leaked and for some reason got it removed, now we only have a bath, we have a shower head attached to the bath, should I use that inside of having baths as my body temp might drop too low fully immersed?

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Post  tooyoung on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:20 pm

jdp710 - just washed my hair in cold, does it have to be as cold as it can be, which I just tried and make my head hurt and go numb, or can it just be not warm?

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Post  kijumn on Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:15 am

tooyoung,

The problem with hot water is the chlorine content. That is, if your water is chlorinated.

In short, the hotter the water, the more chlorine will be absorbed making a hypothyroid condition worse.

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Post  tooyoung on Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:58 pm

I see, does it work both ways, the colder it is, the less there is?

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Re: type 2 hypothyroidism by Dr. Mark Starr

Post  kijumn on Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:11 am

"Most people are under the false assumtion that we don't need to worry about the chlorine we are exposed to in the tub and shower. Unfortunately, dry, brittle hair and itchy, dry skin are the least of the reasons we should stay away from chlorinated water in the shower. The National Academy of Sciences believes that up to 1,000 people actually die each year in the United States from cancers caused by taking in water contaminates, probably in the form of inhalation through showers. The Morris Study, a compilation of ten different cancer studies found that chlorine by-products are responsible for 9% of all bladder cancers and 15% of rectal cancers. Chlorine and its by-products have been associated with many different cancers, including cancer of the bladder, liver, stomach, rectum, and colon. Anemia, heart disease, asthma, allergies and arterioschlerosis are also linked to the use of chlorinated water.

Inhaling water vapor from a steamy shower produced by chlorinated water means that you are breathing in high amounts of chlorine. Inhaled chlorine has a direct route to the blood stream through the lungs. The amount of inhaled contaminates caused by chlorine by-products could be up to 100 times more than the water we drink, according to Dr. Lance Wallace, professor of water chemistry at the University of Pittsburgh. This is partly because chlorine evaporates at a lower temperature. We also absorb chlorine through our skin when we bathe and shower in chlorinated water. According to the director of the Municipal Environmental Research Laboratory, Frances T. Mayo, the effects of chlorine may come from either ingesting it or through skin absorption. Skin absorption and inhalation of chlorine from showers and baths is usually from warm or hot water, which emits even more chlorine than cold water. We obviously can't disregard the dangers associated with inhaling and absorbing chlorinated water from our showers and baths."

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Re: type 2 hypothyroidism by Dr. Mark Starr

Post  tooyoung on Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:22 pm

Not sure if it is related, had a cold shower getting increasingly colder as I got accustomed to it last night and had one of the best nights sleep I can remember. Seeing if there is any change again tonight.

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Re: type 2 hypothyroidism by Dr. Mark Starr

Post  rdkml on Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:59 pm

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/showers.html

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