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How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  hairze on Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:55 am

I'm interested in knowing ways of reducing sebum production through natural supplements. My skin can become shiny and oily in a matter of hours, and my scalp/hair gets VERY oily only 12 hours after I wash it.

Thanks

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  hoppipolla on Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:57 am

CausticSymmetry recommended Brewer's Yeast to me for excess oil production Smile

I would also recommend Coenzyme A. It's pricey, but apparently it has worked very well for at least some people Smile

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  CausticSymmetry on Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:12 pm

hairze - You can also try this shampoo:

http://www.immortalhair.org/topicals.htm

Another yet, which I'm still investigating is blocking the CB2 receptor (not the CB1), which is the endocannabinoid receptor-2, which is responsible for sebum production.

Echinacea may help normalize sebaceous gland function, possibly by modulating the CB2 receptor. This hasn't been proven yet, so it might be worth trying.

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  Guest on Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:14 pm

You could try using clay... you could take lithium internally. LLLT works. And finally iodine removed all sebum for me

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  youngbalder on Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:26 pm

1...- For sebum did you mean using iodine topically or internal?

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  Nashville Hairline on Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:45 am

A probiotic might do it, specifically one containing Lactobacillus paracasei

BUDAPEST, HUNGARY — The oral
probiotic Lactobacillus paracasei achieved
substantial, clinically meaningful reductions
in dandruff in a double-blind, placebo-
controlled randomized trial.
Consumption of the probiotic also resulted
in several secondary benefits, including
reduced scalp erythema, itching,
and greasiness, along with a steady decline
over time in scalp Malassezia yeast
counts
, Dr. Audrey Gueniche reported at
the annual congress of the European Society
for Dermatological Research.
She and her coworkers at L’Oréal in
Clichy, France, had previously shown
that the probiotic speeds recovery of
skin barrier function following controlled
damage induced by tape stripping.
They also demonstrated that L.
paracasei helps regulate skin immune
function.
.

sorry for the bad formatting, full article is here, scroll down a bit:
http://skin.gcnpublishing.com/fileadmin/content_pdf/archive_pdf/vol40iss11/70545_main.pdf

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  CausticSymmetry on Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:41 pm

Nashville Hairline - Nice find!

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  misterE on Mon May 24, 2010 12:20 pm

hairze wrote:I'm interested in knowing ways of reducing sebum production through natural supplements. My skin can become shiny and oily in a matter of hours, and my scalp/hair gets VERY oily only 12 hours after I wash it.

Thanks

The way to stop sebum production is simple; get dairy products, animal protein, fats and oils out of your diet and load up on fiber and complex carbohydrates. This will stop sebum production (and heart disease), but it will not remove the sebum that has already clogged the scalp...to get rid of that use Dr. Bronners Magic Peppermint Soap; this is a very vital tool for people suffering from baldness.

Dr. Bronners Magic Peppermint Soap: http://www.drbronner.com/DBMS/OLPE16/PeppermintLiquidSoap.htm

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  Espio on Mon May 24, 2010 1:20 pm

Caustic, I remember a post of yours a long time ago when you said that the big mistery about baldness is that if a young male was castrated before the baldness started, then he would not go bald. But if he was castrated after the balding process began then he would still go bald. Maybe MisterE's theory is the answer to that mistery. Once the sebum builds up, it stays there so even if the male is castrated he will continue to go bald unless he cleans his scalp up.

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  JosephineMarie on Mon May 24, 2010 2:19 pm

for sebum reduction I am taking pantethine (which is a derivative of vitamin B5 and a co-enzyme A precursor), 300 mg 3 xs day; N-aceytl-cysteine ("NAC") 600 mg 2 x day and L-Carnetine 3 x day (can remember dose per cap - see Immortal's regimen page--it's in the top 6 I believe--the dose is). It's working amazingly well. Another thing that is topical and helps is Retin-A. Then of course, Immortal recommends the lithium orotate, which is also on his regimen page to add to your SLS-free shampoo along with DMSO. All of this has been working very well for me.

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  JosephineMarie on Mon May 24, 2010 2:30 pm

http://hubpages.com/hub/Acne-Cure-Guarantee

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  JosephineMarie on Mon May 24, 2010 2:31 pm

http://hubpages.com/hub/Try-The-New-Acne-Cure---Experimented-For-Years

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  JosephineMarie on Mon May 24, 2010 2:33 pm

And, getting your diet under control:

http://www.thepaleodiet.com/articles/Fi

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  JosephineMarie on Mon May 24, 2010 2:34 pm

Nashville Hairline wrote:A probiotic might do it, specifically one containing Lactobacillus paracasei

BUDAPEST, HUNGARY — The oral
probiotic Lactobacillus paracasei achieved
substantial, clinically meaningful reductions
in dandruff in a double-blind, placebo-
controlled randomized trial.
Consumption of the probiotic also resulted
in several secondary benefits, including
reduced scalp erythema, itching,
and greasiness, along with a steady decline
over time in scalp Malassezia yeast
counts
, Dr. Audrey Gueniche reported at
the annual congress of the European Society
for Dermatological Research.
She and her coworkers at L’Oréal in
Clichy, France, had previously shown
that the probiotic speeds recovery of
skin barrier function following controlled
damage induced by tape stripping.
They also demonstrated that L.
paracasei helps regulate skin immune
function.
.

sorry for the bad formatting, full article is here, scroll down a bit:
http://skin.gcnpublishing.com/fileadmin/content_pdf/archive_pdf/vol40iss11/70545_main.pdf

Cool. Now I am running to my refrigerator to see if my probiotic has this particular bacteria in it. :-)

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  fredounet on Mon May 24, 2010 5:59 pm

what kind of lithium would you suggest internally?

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  Paradox on Mon May 24, 2010 7:31 pm

fredounet wrote:what kind of lithium would you suggest internally?

orotate

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  hoppipolla on Tue May 25, 2010 2:59 am

Wow that was some great and comprehensive info there JosephineMarie, thank you Smile

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  misterE on Tue May 25, 2010 5:37 am

Espio wrote:Caustic, I remember a post of yours a long time ago when you said that the big mistery about baldness is that if a young male was castrated before the baldness started, then he would not go bald. But if he was castrated after the balding process began then he would still go bald. Maybe MisterE's theory is the answer to that mistery. Once the sebum builds up, it stays there so even if the male is castrated he will continue to go bald unless he cleans his scalp up.

Exactly right. The sebum acts like a hard layer which terminal hair can't penetrate thru, only small peach fuzz is small enough to penetrate thru.

I believe that if a person eats a high-fat diet, some of the fats will literally ooze out of their heads. If you look at the western diet, which is a high-fat/high-protein diet there is lots of bald shiny heads walking around. But if you look at a more vegan-type diet, one low in fat and high in fiber and centered on starch like the Asian diet; consisting of vegetables and centered on rice or many South American countries which mostly eat vegetables and have a diet based around beans and potatoes...not only is baldness virtually unknown there, but also these countries have no where near as much diseases as America has...But...when these people move to the USA and take on the high-fat/high-protein western diet, then begin to bald and have western diseases such as atherosclerosis, diabetes, and breast and prostate cancer; all diseases caused by diet.

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  fredounet on Tue May 25, 2010 7:49 am

MisterE,

how do you apply Dr Bronner's soap?

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Post  KAPTUNKRUNK on Tue May 25, 2010 8:02 am

what is the difference of sebum in balding and nonbalding areas?

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  misterE on Wed May 26, 2010 4:24 am

fredounet wrote:MisterE,

how do you apply Dr Bronner's soap?

I wet my hair and squirt about a quarter-size amount in my hand and rub into my hair. Then a couple hours later I comb my hair and loads and loads of sebum flakes off my scalp, I do this every day.

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Post  misterE on Wed May 26, 2010 4:30 am

KAPTUNKRUNK wrote:what is the difference of sebum in balding and nonbalding areas?

First of all, I'm under the impression that the sides of the head are in fact negatively affected by sebum, but not to the effect as the top of the head because of gravity. The sebum produced on the sides of the heads can roll down the head or neck, while the hair on top that produces sebum can only ooze back down into the hair-follicle-pores.

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  sdguy on Wed May 26, 2010 4:41 am

misterE wrote:I wet my hair and squirt about a quarter-size amount in my hand and rub into my hair. Then a couple hours later I comb my hair and loads and loads of sebum flakes off my scalp, I do this every day.

I'm confused. If excess sebum production is caused by fats and your vegan diet excludes fats then why are you getting "loads of sebum flakes" every day? Is this something you just started doing?

I also wonder about what Kaptunkrunk said. If the problem is an issue with sebum and gravity then why do many men recede from the front but maintain hair on the top of their head?

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Re: How to naturally reduce sebum production?

Post  Guest on Wed May 26, 2010 5:02 am

Coconut soap helps remove sebum ?

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Post  misterE on Wed May 26, 2010 5:13 am

sdguy wrote:
I'm confused. If excess sebum production is caused by fats and your vegan diet excludes fats then why are you getting "loads of sebum flakes" every day? Is this something you just started doing?


You see, I grew up eating the rich western diet; lots of cheeses, lots of fried foods, lots of fatty brisket and red meat, lots of milk and ice cream, lots of eggs, lots of vegetable oils...and I know that's what did it for me. It gave me a shiny scalp and my hair was falling fast. In order to stop any more hair fall, I had to stop sebum production and the best way for me to stop sebum production was with an extremely-low-fat/high-fiber starch based vegan diet rich in fruits, vegetables and phytonutrients. Now in order to regrow the hair I lost, I use the Dr. Bronners Magic Peppermint Soap and a comb to remove the layers and layers of sebum I accumulated over the years from the nasty artery clogging diet I once had.

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