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The best natural 5-alpha reductase type 2 inhibitor?

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The best natural 5-alpha reductase type 2 inhibitor?

Post  hoppipolla on Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:53 pm

Just wondering Smile

Apparently black tea is a fairly strong 5ar1 inhibitor, beta-sit.. is it true it works more by blocking receptors and reducing estradiol?

So.. what is the best natural 5ar2 inhibitor? Smile

A few spring to mind but I don't want to bias the thread!

And am I right in saying that black tea is probably the best natural type 1 inhibitor? Or is there something I'm missing?

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Post  kennyjoyy on Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:56 pm

There are several methods included for 5 alpha reductase treatment. Some of the treatments available for baldness or DHT are Minoxidil, Finasteride and Dutasteride etc. From all these treatments, Minoxidil is most effective treatment for DHT or baldness and patients should apply it on the scalp.

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Post  Nashville Hairline on Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:07 pm

kennyjoyy wrote:There are several methods included for 5 alpha reductase treatment. Some of the treatments available for baldness or DHT are Minoxidil, Finasteride and Dutasteride etc. From all these treatments, Minoxidil is most effective treatment for DHT or baldness and patients should apply it on the scalp.
Not true.

Based on the number of articles and (sometimes dubious) studies I've read I'd say Saw Palmetto is still the best "natural" 5ar inhibitor. I'm currently experimenting with it as a topical as I've lost faith in supplementing with it - it just doesn't affect the serum levels of DHT like Finasteride does. Internally, it's only good for the prostate IMO.

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Post  hoppipolla on Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:20 pm

hehe - spam alert!

Erm, I beliiieeve SP binds to androgen receptors...

But is there really any advantage to using it over pure beta-sitosterol?

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Post  hoppipolla on Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:23 pm

Oh, and I thought you said your regimen was proving successful NS? I could be wrong, but I remember that coming up at one point! Smile

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Post  Nashville Hairline on Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:07 am

Not me, I've only ever said I found results to be "OK". I'm still losing my hair unfortunately.

I understand beta-sis is considered the active ingredient in Saw Palmetto but you never know, there might be other things in it that are beneficial. One of the big beta-sis studies is actually a combo of beta-sis + Saw palmetto, its all very confusing.

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Re: The best natural 5-alpha reductase type 2 inhibitor?

Post  misterE on Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:07 am

Beta-sitosterol is probably the strongest 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor.

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Post  LA-Night on Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:18 am

It's weird how beta-sitosterol (and other "natural" reductase inhibitors, for that matter) fall far short of duplicating the effects of finasteride.

But instead of taking the quick-fix short cut, we're trying to stop hair loss naturally. Yes, it's disheartening sometimes -- especially in today's instant-gratification scene -- but it's viable in the long-term and healthier, too.

With the enormous amount of underground research done here, I wouldn't be surprised to see a "cure" in our lifetime.

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Post  misterE on Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:19 am

LA-Night wrote: I wouldn't be surprised to see a "cure" in our lifetime.


The cure will come when there is no more profits to be made off baldness.

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Post  LA-Night on Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:37 am

misterE wrote:
LA-Night wrote: I wouldn't be surprised to see a "cure" in our lifetime.


The cure will come when there is no more profits to be made off baldness.

That's why you have the underground.

Not to romanticize the alternative hair loss help scene -- because it has its flaws -- but its ethos generally rejects the rampant commercialism and exploitation of the mainstream.

There are shady characters in every movement but I've gotten to know some awesome posters on this forum who are genuinely interested -- no, obsessed -- with defeating hair loss.

If we stay in the current, lifeless, money-hungry paradigm promoted by Machiavellian pharmaceuticals then yes, misterE, the cure is unattainable.

But I refuse to believe that there aren't alternatives to pharmaceutical reality. There ARE alternatives, and you're witnessing it right here & now.

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Post  misterE on Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:16 am

LA-Night wrote:
If we stay in the current, lifeless, money-hungry paradigm promoted by Machiavellian pharmaceuticals then yes, misterE, the cure is unattainable.

But I refuse to believe that there aren't alternatives to pharmaceutical reality. There ARE alternatives, and you're witnessing it right here & now.


I agree. The paradigm is shifting.

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Re: The best natural 5-alpha reductase type 2 inhibitor?

Post  nidhogge on Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:44 pm

Epilobium in my book.

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Re: The best natural 5-alpha reductase type 2 inhibitor?

Post  LA-Night on Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:52 pm

Hey nid. Good to see you, man. I bet things have been super busy for you guys w/the supplement line...

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