Search
 
 

Display results as :
 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
Navigation
 Portal
 Index
 Memberlist
 Profile
 FAQ
 Search
Natural Hair Growth Products
Brought to you by
Hair Loss Forum
Navigation
 Portal
 Index
 Memberlist
 Profile
 FAQ
 Search
Natural Hair Growth Products
Brought to you by
Hair Loss Forum

Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post new topic   Reply to topic

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  LittleFighter on Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:33 pm

JDP posted sometime ago information about calcium fructoborate (Fruitex-b) that went mostly ignored... that was a surprise to me.

The benefits from this natural organic compound are amazing.

-Anti-inflammatory
-Anti-oxidant and raises anti-oxidant enzymes
-Raises Vitamin D 20%, DHEA 56% and free testosterone 30%
-Increases calcium-magnesium retention, bone mineralization
- ... http://www.fruitexb.com/about-fruitexb/research#

6 mg per day seems to be the right dose.

My only concern is the hormonal component of these benefits.

JDP, CS...

Should we expect androgen mediated disorders to worsen due to these "positive" changes?

It might be "it depends"...


LittleFighter

Posts: 1113
Join date: 2009-07-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  kijumn on Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:48 pm

Thanks Littlefighter.


By the way, Now has a cheaper version which I have

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-OsteoBoron-90-Vcaps/4849?at=0

http://vitanetonline.com/forums/1/Thread/728


Also, gotta love the 20% increase in Vitamin D levels. That should give a clue about need for co-factors to raise Vitamin D levels instead of taking a D3 supplement. Sorry, don't mean to go off-topic but thought I should point that out.


Regarding your question, I would highly doubt there would be a problem taking Osteoboron/Fruitex-b with someone with hair loss. I would highly doubt "androgen mediated disorders" would worsen. Should be the opposite... nothing but positive.

You would also be decreasing aluminum levels in your body due to the boron. Less aluminum also means more silica ,which will give better quality of hair.

kijumn

Posts: 1133
Join date: 2008-11-28

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  LittleFighter on Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:56 pm

Thanks for your response JDP.

I think the use of Green Tea, Curcumin and Resveratrol should help in reducing 5-A-R and Aromatase and pretty much everyone is taking them so maybe it's a way of having more peace of mind.

Regarding the Vitamin D3 supplementation topic, I'm tired of seeing too much about D3 and nothing about Vitamin A (real one, preformed). They even demonize Vitamin A, stating it is counterproductive... as if everyone could produce enough Vitamin A, as if hypothyroidism wouldn't be so common and it wouldn't have an impact on it.

My belief is that mega-dosing on D3 without proper A levels isn't right. Recent research points that various fat soluble vitamins like K and E have interactions between them. Everything is needed.

Leaky gut and allergy sufferers seem to be in desperate need of REAL Vitamin A.

Maybe the negative effects found in some studies (like allergy prevalence) with Vitamin D supplementation are at least partially due to displacement of Vitamin A?... just a thought.

--
Just a few but very enlightening articles:

Vitamin K: Beyond Clotting
http://www.nleducation.co.uk/resources/reviews/vitamin-k-beyond-clotting/

Vitamin A: The Key to A Tolerant Immune System?
http://www.nleducation.co.uk/resources/reviews/vitamin-a-the-key-to-a-tolerant-immune-system/

"Vitamin D and Vitamin A are essential co-partners in immunological and bone health.[1],[2] Iím particularly excited about vitamin A because of its profound effects on the gut mucosal immune systemóa specialty of mine. Just as vitamin D has attracted attention for its ability to increase antimicrobial peptides and help us defeat pathogens, itís fascinating to me that vitamin A is also essential for the very tissues that protect us from the same pathogens.
The availability of vitamin A in our food is a key factor in a tolerant, highly functional immune system. To quote from the title of a brilliant commentary in the March 2008 issue of Natureís Mucosal Immunology, ďVitamin A rewrites the ABCs of oral tolerance.Ē

"Vitamin A (retinoic acid) is key to our ability to consume a wide range of antigens (food) and yet not react adversely, and itís quite fascinating."

"I give these patients a preformed vitamin A supplement of 12,500 units a day. I often find that will calm a patientís mucosal immune system down so the foods theyíre ingesting donít act as provocateurs. Adequate vitamin A with suitable probiotics and SIgA promotion with Sacharomyces boulardii is the first step in restoring immunological health."

"Our friend, our helper, is vitamin A, a beautiful nutrient, like vitamin D. Both are sophisticated and capable of wonderful things, but having too much or too little of either one interferes with the otherís capacity to be lovely."

For those who care to know, I'm taking about 10,000 UI of oil based PREFORMED A plus 5,000 of D3 (don't plan to go higher than that). Seems that my gut and skin were in desperate need of them!

LittleFighter

Posts: 1113
Join date: 2009-07-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  kijumn on Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:54 pm

Good info. Thanks.

I'm sure you know but posting for others just in case a full list of co-factors is magnesium, K2, vitamin A, boron, zinc. Would also recommend sun exposure to limit a build-up as much as possible.

kijumn

Posts: 1133
Join date: 2008-11-28

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  LittleFighter on Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:38 pm

jdp710 wrote:Good info. Thanks.

I'm sure you know but posting for others just in case a full list of co-factors is magnesium, K2, vitamin A, boron, zinc. Would also recommend sun exposure to limit a build-up as much as possible.

JDP, I agree with you.

Previously I tried to avoid the sun... but now I get more exposure.

LittleFighter

Posts: 1113
Join date: 2009-07-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  pancacke on Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:53 pm

I'm still growing and planned on supplementing with calcium lactate, is this a better alternative or something completly different?


pancacke

Posts: 1641
Join date: 2010-07-22

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  LittleFighter on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:21 pm

pancacke wrote:I'm still growing and planned on supplementing with calcium lactate, is this a better alternative or something completly different?


Completly different...

Calcium FructoBORATE is a source of Boron.

Calcium lactate, Calcium Glycinate, Di-Calcium malate, and a few others are excellent sources of calcium.

LittleFighter

Posts: 1113
Join date: 2009-07-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  pancacke on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:44 pm

okay, sorry for interrupting :p

pancacke

Posts: 1641
Join date: 2010-07-22

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  LittleFighter on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:57 pm

pancacke wrote:okay, sorry for interrupting :p

LOL No problem at all!

LittleFighter

Posts: 1113
Join date: 2009-07-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  LittleFighter on Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:31 am

More concrete information on how CF would help hair, specially the last point:

1. Improves 1, 25(OH)2 Vitamin D-3 homeostasis, most dramatically in humans with vitamin D deficiency.
2. In males, may increase testosterone, raising levels as much as 50% if needed in 60 days.
3. May increase DHEA and Vitamin-D-3 levels if needed in men and women.
4. May help late postmenopausal vitamin D-3 deficient women by increasing homeostasis of 1, 25(OH)2 Vitamin D-3, testosterone, estradiol and DHEA. (More research is needed)
5. Reduces or eliminates negative calcium balance.
6. Strengthens bones and connective tissue.
7. Fights osteoporosis and arthritis
8. Reduces arthritic pain.
9. Helps maintain lean body mass and reduce body fat
10. Is anti-aging, and anti-degenerative disease by supporting vigorous antioxidant enzyme activity, inhibiting collagenase enzymes and supporting healthful hormone balance.

Antioxidant by itself, boosts antioxidant enzymes, inhibits inflammation, raises vitamin D, helps retain calcium and magnesium, grow solid bones, etc.

Given all these benefits, it seems crazy not to use it. Still my only concern is the hormonal aspect (though I might be wrong or like I mentioned, "it depends"). It boost DHEA, which is good for many things and I believe hair loss too.

Check the whole article here http://www.vibranthealth.us/?p2=/customcode/vibranthealth/viewcomments.jsp&bid=5

LittleFighter

Posts: 1113
Join date: 2009-07-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  CausticSymmetry on Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:27 am

Interesting stuff here, glad I didn't miss this post. I was on vacation for the last two weeks.

_________________
My regimen
http://www.immortalhair.org/mpbregimen.htm

Now available for consultation (hair and/or health)
http://www.immortalhair.org/hairconsultation.htm

CausticSymmetry
Admin

Posts: 10765
Join date: 2008-07-09

View user profile http://www.immortalhair.org/

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  CausticSymmetry on Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:52 am

There's still a lot about boron that is not understood, and it very well could be a missing lini for some.

In this study, it has an interesting effect (positive) on IGF-1 and PSA levels:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14713551

_________________
My regimen
http://www.immortalhair.org/mpbregimen.htm

Now available for consultation (hair and/or health)
http://www.immortalhair.org/hairconsultation.htm

CausticSymmetry
Admin

Posts: 10765
Join date: 2008-07-09

View user profile http://www.immortalhair.org/

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  LittleFighter on Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:56 am

Glad you're back CS and catched your attention with this. I'm hoping more can comment on this...


In Vitro Effects of Calcium Fructoborate on FMLP-Stimulated Human Neutrophil Granulocytes

A research study published in the journal of Biological Trace Element Research in December of 2006 looked at Fructoborate's effects on different markers of inflammation and its antioxidant effects. Fructoborate slowed respiratory burst by 93% and decreased superoxide by 59%. These are two of the strongest forms of oxidation in the body that can lead to inflammation.

One of the most potent antioxidants in the body is SOD. Fructoborate demonstrated an ability to increase SOD levels by 72% in this study. SOD protects the body from superoxide and the inflammation that can be triggered by it. Other research has shown that boron can help stop the break down of glutathione, another powerful antioxidant in the body. So not only can boron act as an antioxidant, but this study showed it can boost the level of other antioxidants.

http://www.fruitexb.com/about-fruitexb/research

LittleFighter

Posts: 1113
Join date: 2009-07-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  action<reaction on Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:56 am

Hey CS, Boron is also used by the body to help knit elastic fibres into bone if I remember correctly.

action<reaction

Posts: 1038
Join date: 2010-06-08
Age: 24
Location: Alberta, Canada, North America, Earth, the Milky Way

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Calcium Fructoborate (Fruitex-b)

Post  LittleFighter on Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:00 pm

action<reaction wrote:Hey CS, Boron is also used by the body to help knit elastic fibres into bone if I remember correctly.

action:

"Bone and Joint Health: Boron is an essential nutrient required for bone and joint health. It helps maintain bone density and the integrity and strength of cartilage, ligaments and tendons by structurally cross-linking the inorganic (mineral) and organic (protein) matrices in bone and joint tissue. "


More info relevant to MPB:

These findings highlight other benefits of boron in biological systems. It serves as an anti- inflammatory substance through inhibition of the oxidative burst by scavenging cells (leucocytes) and excessive activity by neutrophils, white cells that scavenge debris and invaders outside of the circulatory system. Boron also indirectly improves free radical scavenging by raising the level of SOD, catalase and glutathione peroxidase in the blood and cells. This triumvirate of antioxidant enzymes is the bodyís main natural defense against free radicals.

LittleFighter

Posts: 1113
Join date: 2009-07-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


Post new topic   Reply to topic
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum