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Post  MikeGore on Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:03 pm

Sorry if this question has been answered before. I know but with so many posts to read, it just seemed quicker to ask.

Has anyone had good results with Colostrum? I read that it increased IgF-1? Are high IgF-1 good or bad for hair loss?

Does Colostrum have any side effects like gynecomastia or increased hair loss and shedding?

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  misterE on Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:58 pm

MikeGore wrote: Are high IgF-1 good or bad for hair loss?



Free-IGF-1 = bad.
Protein-bound-IGF-1 = good.

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  MikeGore on Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:07 pm

So do you know if colostrum would increase protein-bound IGF-1 or Free-IGF-1?

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  MikeGore on Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:46 pm

I do not understand this. Any answer would be appreciated. So if colostrum increase IgF-1, how could it be good for male pattern baldness? Is there any reason that we shouldn't take colostrum?

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  scottyc33 on Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:15 pm

I have taken colostrum on and off for the past year and haven't noticed any negative side effects.

I usually will throw some in a post-workout smoothie.


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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  MikeGore on Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:38 pm

Would taking colostrum with maca be too much? They both seem to increase IgF-1 levels, so would that be risky?

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  misterE on Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:50 pm

MikeGore wrote:I do not understand this. Any answer would be appreciated.


MikeGore, read these studies (in their entirety). This will answer your questions.

Milk consumption: aggravating factor of acne and promoter of chronic diseases of Western societies

Milk The promoter of chronic Western diseases

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  MikeGore on Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:18 pm

Thanks for the links.

I know milk is pretty bad for hair loss, but I am still confused about colostrum. I was really excited about colostrum, since people seem to have good results with it for hair loss. I read somewhere saying colostrum isn't really milk.

What I wasn't sure of is, does colostrum increase free IgF-1 or the Protein-bound-IGF-1?

But this link here says this http://www.biolifenz.com/Colostrum+Info/Frequently+asked+questions/Whats+Benefits+of+Colostrum.html

"When given colostrum, serum IGF-1 levels increase even though the ingested IGF-1 in colostrum is not absorbed and supplementation with colostrum does not produce positive results for IGF-1 in drug tests".

So how could it be good for hair loss. But then again maca increases IgF-1 levels as well, right? And if it helps the immune system, maybe it helps hair loss.

So in short should I take colostrum or not?

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  DM5 on Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:31 pm

I think that Immortal said he takes Colostrum and has no problem. I take it and get the mpb itch. I think it just depends on what else your taking which offsets the negative effects if your prone to them. Try it and see what happens 20 minutes to 1 hour after taking on an empty stomach. My thoughts and from what I've been told(probably IH) are that the more your suppressing MMP-9(with things like Ecklonia Cava or Green Tea) or DHT(you know those things), the less it should negatively affect you.

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Post  CausticSymmetry on Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:55 pm

Like DM5, Colostrum, at least for me appears to be a negative. It just took using it long enough. It is in general, much better than using another form of IGF-1 stimulation, because it contains the entire IGF-1 superfamily.

Colostrum could be potentially useful for those who have low IGF-1, because if low that can prevent hair growth.

It's really a matter of balance when it comes to IGF-1. It is essential for hair growth, but too much is not good.


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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  teacup on Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:21 pm

CS,
Should a person get a blood test to measure IGF-1 levels then decide if they need to increase or decrease?

I found conflicting info on IGF-1 and the diseases related to hair loss like CVD, see this: http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/natural-hair-regrowth-f1/igf-1-milk-and-androgen-receptor-t4509-15.htm#42171

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  MikeGore on Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:23 am

I know we should get a blood test done, but I don't really like needless.

As I understand it some people have itchy scalps or sebum related to hair loss. I don't really have an itchy scalp and I don't think I have sebum buildup either. My hair loss issues is mostly about the hairline.

It seems low IgF-1 levels are related to alopecia areata and high levels are related to mpb? Dunno, could be wrong.
Could it be that people low IgF-1 levels suffer from receding hairline whereas people with itchy scalp and vertex crown hair loss have high levels of IgF-1?

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  moby on Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:15 am

Sorry to bump this, but I'm thinking of buying some colostrum and I need to clarify some thing: Balding people do not have lower levels of IGF-1. That study with finasteride only looked at locally upregulated IGF-1 so low levels of IGF-1 in your scalp is bad but systematically it doesn't matter. As far as I know, there is no way to raise IGF-1 locally in follicles. Maybe colostrum could do that?

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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  JDawg on Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:37 pm

Good bump, and good questions.
CS - weren't you saying you were going to re-try using colostrum? Because of it's Thymus regenerating properties?

I'd be interested in hearing people's colostrum stories as well.


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Re: Colostrum Questions? High IgF-1 levels good or bad?

Post  moby on Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:04 pm

I'll be trying colostrum soon, supposed to arrive in 5-7 days. Will report back. If it could really upregulate IGF-1 expression in your follicles when taken orally then that would be great. I'm not sure if systemic IGF-1 levels have any importance nor do I have any idea about my initial IGF-1 levels. Plenty of testimonials on the Internet about HGH growing hair internally and since Colostrum is like super HGH, then it should help a bit.

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