Help to women, I am loosing life

Dear all and Immortal,

I have long long story about the topic you are talking about. My english is very bad, then first of all I would like to appologize to all when you will read my message. - for many mistakes and that will be so long. I realy need your advise, because doctors do anything anymore and I would like you know everything what happend and everything what I tried.

Here it is. I am loosing my hairs avlready 13 years, it started when I was 18 , 6 months after divorce of my parents, it was just a bit stressful, but compare to other stress nothing so much. By the way I am very stressful woman.

It started with seborhoic dermatitis, greesy hair, skin, and dermatitis, doctors did test for iron, tsh, and hormonal tests - estradiol , progesteron , testosteron , dht - everything cam normal and also in middle of the range then it means realy good. Doctor tried many things - vitamines, alpicort - it is special tonik with estradiol, methionine - etc...and nothing realy help, some liquid for hairs with herbs, also nothing, then third doctor tried Neocapil - it is with Minoxidil, after one months, the hair stopped to be greesy and the dermatitis stopped after nizoral shampoo and hair loss after this, then I stopped everything, everything was good and then after 8 months started again, greesy hair, skin, dermatitis, hair loss, then I cut my hari like man and everything stopped in one week, new doctor said, it is psychical. After one year it started again. My new doctor advise me again vitamines, Minoxidil - the hair loss was worsening then I stopped, and laser, after 2 months it stopped. After big stress in work after 6 months, it started again, doctor checked my hormones and then he said that testosterone is 2.8 and limit is 0.5-3.0 then I am at the end of limit and I need anti androgen , why I am loosing hairs everywhere and have greesy skin. He prescribed me Diane. After 2 weeks - you realy read well, it stopped everything. One year was ok and then started with Diane also, they check my hormones, TSH - 4 - they said it is from Diane, testosteron low and dihydrotestosterone low, but also eestradiol near 0 and progesteron 0 - they said it is from Diane and that I need Androcur - antiandrogen. I took just every day half of pill plus Diane, after two months was ok and then I stop to take Andrucure - I was scared, then everytghin was ok. I wanted to try to be without pills, I stopped them and in 4 month I started to have greasy skin , hair, dermatitis and hair loss - like 70 per wash - it was for me huge, I have little fine hair and if no hair loss, i loose 5-10 per was and combining. They check my hormones, TSH 3.8, other hormones ok, just estradiol and progesteron near zero, testosteron 2.9 (0.5 - 3.0) and dihydrotestosteron 0.91 (0.1 - 0.9) - after one months even 1.O. They said i have no AGA, it is stress and whatever, I tried many alternative things and nothing help, every tonics, shampoo, pills, vitamine injections, Neocapil again - mistake, Regain - misarable....etc...then I started Diane again and in 2 months was ok. After two years I saw I have to stopped somehow,then I stopped the Diane, try the hypnose to reduce stress, take lots of vitamines, visit 5 alternative doctores, homeopatics, etc... doctors after 5 months hair loss said, you have any estradiol and progesteron but it made Diane, testosteron still in average but at the end, DHT 1.O, TSH - 3.5 I started take kelp, I was scared from other hormones, and then TSH came to 2.9. I have long time cold feets and hands, and my family is full of women with hypothyroid condition. Then I found some olde man, who asked me on the street that he knows what is my problems and he will help me, he did for free, he works with some herbs and energy...dont know how but without hormones and everything , my hair loss after other 3 months stopped, and finally grow everything after 8 years back, I met my partner - big love - probably also something to has to do with hormones. yOU CANnot imagine, what it is for normal girl to have boyfriend when she is already 25. And I had no one 7 years, why, because the hair loss, before I had many friends, also 3 boyfriends, during this perriod, 2 men left me, they did not want woman with hair loss and less hairs....

Then was 3 years wonderfull, final I had long hair and happy , I felt I live normal life, I need not be scared everyday, cry and think, I never will have family, I have good job....but....And after 3 years we had big stress with my mother in law and everything started again. Doctors check hormone, TSH near ok, testosteron 2.5 and dihydrotestosteron 0.8. Then he said, we can try just Androcur for 3 months, and we will see, mistake, Androcur reacted differently , I started have hairs on my arms, tummy etd. Nothing helped, then I stopped and he gave me Regain, in one week I lost everyday 1O00 hairs, I wanted day, I felt I will loose my life again, my hair doctor said, I dont know what to do, endokrinolog did all test, he said it is in range, but you have start to have again near zero women hormones then the men hormones probably feel strong, he gave me Diane and 50 mg of Spirolaktone. After 3 months it stopped to be greasy, but still fall down, somebody advise me bee propolis water, I tried drops on my skin and you will not belive it,the hairloss dropped from 100 in wash days to 15. I continue to do it all year and it was amazing...but again - after one year we decided to try to have a baby, I stopped the pills, and after 3 monts started hair loss 200 per day, I said I will be bald, I wanted die, then doctor said, you have to go back to pills,pity you were not pregnant in this 3 months...after 4 months, together with special teas from new herbalists it started to work, it slow down but never realy stopped, I lost like 25 per day and 40 per wash - I have small change in grow and when it was ok - I lost 5 per day and 1O per wash. Doctor knows already that for somemebody is great amount but form me 40 is hair loss. But was ok...then this may, we split with partner and I get big trouble in my great work, adn it started....and continue still, last months, I was loosing 1000 per wash,,,,,my partner even cry by doctor, they said they found anything, the stress was long, and stopped the stress last months, but shed continue, I have now extremly lost 1000 per wash or 400 and normal 300 hairs...no hairs soon left. I have all the time the Diane and Spirolactone, I did not stopped them, why my hormonal test is - testostern 1.4 (0.5 - 3.0), dihydrotestorone 0.3 (0.1 - 0.9), estradiol 2 (10-45), progesteron 3 (3-25) - to this women hormone, they say it is normal because the Diane, shock I had now from aldosterone - first time in my life is 1.2 ´(0.2-0.6)- somewhere i did read that the spirolactone decrese it but can do also oposite..., cortizol 666 (150-67O)- they call this is normal but I dont think so, TSH after kelp and vizualization - 2.2 (maximum could be 4.2) - it is my best results in past 7 years,l T3 and T4 in middle of the range, prolactin -

prolactin - 15 (6-24). I had many times with spirolactone when I had big hair loss or started the medication again, big pain in my scalp, now the pain is ok, only it is there when I am scared.
wHAT i TAKE NOW: Diane, Spirolactone 30 mg, kelp, inositol, vitamin Bkomplex, ginko biloba, ginsen. and in injections B5 and Biotin

Shampoo - Nizoral, seabuckhorn etc...and rinse with water of nettle after wash

What also I have already 13 years with hair loss, - gynecologic problems, you are boys then I dont want to write more....doctors said, it is normal and have no bacteria etc..then I have to live with it. Doctors said that in test is nothing, men hormones are low, TSH best in ever then for me does not exist anything. They just say, come in 3 other monts...

I am sorry for soooooooooo long post, stupid probably, I am just so much scared and dont know what to do. Nobody is helping me, I am now 31, wish to have family, and I am scared and definitly loosing my life. When I was balding to loose 70 , now I know what it realy is - 1000 etc....

I woman, but soon I will not feel I am.

Again big appologie for my story and my post. And thank you in advance for all your advices.

Louise - This entire page will probably be helpful for you. http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/physiology.htm

There are ways to lower Aldosterone without Spirolactone, such as adequate Magnesium and Vitamin D. Ultimately, the solution is to rebalance all the glands that regulate hormones. This is accomplished by taking glandular supplements such as those discussed on the link above. Along with those glandulars, is high dose iodine. For stress hair loss, Cayenne Pepper throughout the day. This is relatively new information and fights hair loss from a very different pathway than other supplements.

As an alternative to synthetic hormones, you might try PM Kudzu.

Despite whatever the tests say for thyroid, you probably have an under active thyroid. Normal TSH is really below 2.0, but even with that, you can still be low thyroid. Iodine replenishment is critical.

For additional stress support there is Sensoril (Ashwaganda) or Phosphatidylserine.

Dear IH,

you have to explain me here please, because I did read many times there, and it is so much information. I cannot stopped all hormones, I am scared, that I will be immediatly bald...by the way before they help, now there is somethingelse that the hormone does not take hairs ok.- I have ok aldosterone, had, and I think problem is spirolactone which I take, I have no spirolactone to put down aldosterone, was all the time ok, but help diane to have down androgens and DHT. for stress I am drinking the tea from Ashwaganda. I dont know what to do anymore, can you be more specific please.l I wrote you all results and what i take, the hormones makes the androgens down and I am still loosing hairs like I will be soon bald.. I am loosing them on sides so much, on the top and above my neck. I can say everywhere,my skin is still just a bit greasy - even I have man hormones down...dont know what it makes it - cortizol?

Dont know...I did read there everything, please help me. I know this is man forum, but doctors has no help. I understand that Lugols is good, I will try to order. What about my other hormones, what candida if I have , doctor said they dont check it. I dont know what is takin my hair out.

Thank you for all advise¨

Louise - Synthetic hormones like Diane make problem worse long term. Getting your body to produce hormones on its own without these poisons is crucial for long term health.

In place of Diane, you can use this product:

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=-6131784303763543477&at=0

It provides a natural estrogen virtually identical to the kind the human body.

It's likely that your low Testosterone level is a result of a high cortisol level. The probable solution here is Phosphatidylserine. I would suggest taking a lot of this stuff.

Between 300 and 600 milligrams of it per day.

This product here below, is an all on one product to help with your thyroid, pituitary, and adrenal glands. Don't forget the Iodine of course.

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=6016&at=0

This is the Cayenne product I was talking about before:

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=458&at=0

Louise - I almost forgot about Candida. This probiotic is extremely helpful:

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=3620&at=0

Thank you IH,

I will order then Lugols, the Cayne . The DIane I cannot stopped now< I am incredible scared, now does not help but in the past help and when I stopped I had horrible hair loss. I have to wait for it. I got Diane for hair loss. The testosterone, probebly you did not read well, - please dont get angry I dont mean baldy, I have low, because I have bordeline and for that they gave me Diane and Spirolactone to lower it, and I was ok. That I have low is ok now, but why am I still shedding.
I myself thing that the stress do somethig or did together with cortizol why antiandrogens does not help and that now the hairloss make something else.

Summary, - lugols, cayne and the things for Candida, for cortizol the tea from Aswaghanda will be ok? And what about shampoos, With Nizoral I loose even more hair.

Hope something will help, because I feel like dying slowly.

Thank you again for your help and advice, I realy appreciate you take time to answer me.

Louise - You might decide to slowly withdrawal from the Diane35 while supplying Glandular and PM Kudzu in the future.

The tea of Ashwaganda may not be enough, but this will help:

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=3302&at=0

Although even better would be to take this product below, as it will help reduce excess cortisol and help raise testoterone levels:

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=273

I think you should ditch the Nizoral and go for something all-natural to encourage a healthy scalp.

Almost forgot. If you have high androgens, also consider natural progesterone cream. That will help you with testosterone level and reduce DHT.

Hey IH - that glandular supplement - should it be taken all the time, or should it be cycled every once in awhile to help restore 'balance'?

scottyc33 - Take it until you feel maximum energy and everything seems right. Usually 3 to 6 months. Fortunately, it doesn't have to be taken indefinitely.

Good morning from Prague , yes i am from Prague like one man here, he is very lucky. I am very jelous.

Ok I cannot now stopped the diane and Verospiron, Verospiron I will try to wean off slowly after the hair loss stopped.

Can somebody explain me, why with diane and Verospiron hair loss stopped, now not even men hormones are down and what make my skin and hair extremly greasy even with this antiandrogen, did the long stress did somethinelse, does cortizol something to do with it?

I start now what IH advices:
Thyroid:
Lugols

stres:
The pills with Aswaghana
and Caynne pepper (for this I dont know how can help hair loss)

Candida:
Do I have to order probiotics from US or from Prague will be ok? Does it ok just to stop to eat bread, sugar and this probiotika? I did think you have to fight more.


Vitamines:
I take now in injection Biotin, vitamine B5, Inositol, ginsen, ginko biloba
Do I have to take also magnesium and vitamine D (for what is vitamine D)?

Topicals:
I am using now Vichy Dercos, because I am scared from Regaine, Minoxidil etc... it is something what you use and help hair loss and growth? Please advice me. Also wanted to ask about shampoo. TODAY i AM STRESS FROM BIG HAIR LOSS AND HAVE AGAIN,PAINS IN mY SCALP AND BURNING. Nizoral makes my hair loss worst. Do you use some shampoo which is realy good and probably help with hair loss? Revivogen, Nioxin, Revita????

Please all help me with this situation, I feel lost. I lost 2 boyfriends because me hair, now job- I am not anymore representative, and llive....I paid just pills, doctors etc....I want normal live back, be woman.

I know I am not man, I have TE or AGA, does not matter, I just know that stress change my man hormones and stress hormones and when is big stress pills stopped to work. Please help me, doctors - derms, endokrinologs they say, you have pills, they make hormones ok - even cortizol is high, we can do anything...propecia will not help, you dont need it.

..I forget to say that progesterone cream, Kudzu,nettle root I want to try when I will have to go out from DIane, if I have ever chance to go off and save my hairs....

I am not woman who is crying here and has lots of hairs , I am 31 and if I saw picture of IH - I have no even half of his hair...yes I am realy lost even 5 years ago some alternative doctor helped me, and I had lots of hairs without hormones...but he does not live anymore.

Why I will be glad and thankfull for all your helps and support.

Sorry for stupid question, where and how I have to order the Lugols and aswagana , caynne pills - because it is different and so huge shipping to Czech republic, do you have some idea and how many bottles I have to order? And the last, do I need the thyroid tablets? Just ask because also some topical and shampoo and willl be no money.

Thank you agina so much