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(Pictures can be deceiving and misinterpretations can occur. And there are not enough subjects and information in the pictures to establish a credible pattern or trend but let's just assume that it does)
Observations:
11 is a kid wearing western clothes with shaved head. Although the picture lacks definition, he appears to have a receded upper temporal hairline
2,5,6,8,12 are in their 50, 60, 70 years of age.
2,5,6,8 are bald men in their 60-70 years of age
3 and 9 have full head of hair in their 20s-30s+ years of age; one is wearing a shirt; both appear healthy
7 has a distended gut, small arms muscles, flat chest, receded hair line and appears to be gray or white. His face is darker than his body.
4 has a bald spot at the back of this vertex.
1 has full head of hair; he could be anywhere between 30 and 50 years old.
10 skin tone seems to be different from the natives. He appears to be the assistant archeologist
No one appears to be holding a spear or bow & arrows
the mummy appears to be bald
With stricter standards, the above will not qualify.
barefoot- Posts: 116
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Re: Book Review & Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness
Suppositions:
11 is westernized; a receded upper temporal hairline at a very young age is an indication of a genetic trait of the tribe
2,5,6,8,12 are in their 50, 60, 70 years of age with low levels of testosterone and xxxx xxxx.xxx
2,5,6,8 are bald men in their 60-70 years of age - affected by senile baldness rather than premature baldness. (But, really, who draws the line between hair loss, mpb, senile baldness??)
6 in his 60+ years, seems to have diffused hair loss and miniaturized hair follicles but with in tacked hair line.
3 and 9 have full head of hair in their 20-30+ years of age; 9 is westernized
7 is clearly extremely malnourished but likely caused by worm infestation.
7 face is darker than his body. because he normally wears a T-shirt. This means that they could be posing for tourists in this photo
4 could be working on intricate art objects when he is not posing for tourists.
1 with full head of hair could be anywhere between 30 to 60 years old.
10 seems to be of African origin; educated in Western style school and is the assistant archeologist. His receded hair line could be genetic and aggravated by modern living
No spears; no bow & arrows - no weapons means the tribesmen are not hunters
mummy appears bald but its actually his skull
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Re: Book Review & Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness
Discussion:
The tribe could be living in close proximity to a modern town. Natives are known to pose and be paid by tourists for photo opts. With no visible weapons. the tribe is unlikely a hunting tribe. (It's the men who do the hunting; but also do gathering with women)
Part of their diet could be gathered, part processed and part domesticated animals or bought from stores.
The tribe is not affected by premature baldness except for the native with distended gut. We can assume that the malnourished native with a distended gut is an isolated and exceptionally extreme case. He could be harboring hundreds of worms and might even cough them out every so often.
There is no reason to believe that he could be eating differently because tribes are known to share their food. His hair loss could only be ASSOCIATED with malnutrition but with a severely compromised biochemistry there could be other causes.
Skinny old men is due to loss of muscle mass which occur in old men and supposedly cause by low testosterone levels, not necessarily malnutrition. These pictures simply cannot provide enough information in terms of dietary factors.
The tribesmen are now considered poor in their own land which they once ruled and subjected to modern types of stress factors their old folks have never encountered before.
As with any hierarchy or leadership, it is the elders who are confronted with stress factors. Balding in old men is called senile baldness and is ASSOCIATED with low testosterone levels. (Case example is Vladimir Putin of Russia began losing his hair over 45 years of age coupled with stress factors as a leader of Russia)
The assistant archeologists, who seems to be of African origin as suggested by his skin tone, with receded upper temporal hair line could be genetic and seems to have receded over a period of time.
This tribe is no longer the revered virgin hunter-gatherer tribe but a tribe being impacted by modernization. With only remnants of their stronger customs and traditions still in place and a Westernized younger generation, the tribe may be fully modernized in just 20 years.
Since full blown baldness occurs only among old men in this tribe, the question will be: What keeps baldness at bay among the younger generation of this tribe. Or what accelerates baldness in advanced civilizations?
And the answers to the question is another discussion with new sets of facts and suppositions that will require other disciplines.
The tribe could be living in close proximity to a modern town. Natives are known to pose and be paid by tourists for photo opts. With no visible weapons. the tribe is unlikely a hunting tribe. (It's the men who do the hunting; but also do gathering with women)
Part of their diet could be gathered, part processed and part domesticated animals or bought from stores.
The tribe is not affected by premature baldness except for the native with distended gut. We can assume that the malnourished native with a distended gut is an isolated and exceptionally extreme case. He could be harboring hundreds of worms and might even cough them out every so often.
There is no reason to believe that he could be eating differently because tribes are known to share their food. His hair loss could only be ASSOCIATED with malnutrition but with a severely compromised biochemistry there could be other causes.
Skinny old men is due to loss of muscle mass which occur in old men and supposedly cause by low testosterone levels, not necessarily malnutrition. These pictures simply cannot provide enough information in terms of dietary factors.
The tribesmen are now considered poor in their own land which they once ruled and subjected to modern types of stress factors their old folks have never encountered before.
As with any hierarchy or leadership, it is the elders who are confronted with stress factors. Balding in old men is called senile baldness and is ASSOCIATED with low testosterone levels. (Case example is Vladimir Putin of Russia began losing his hair over 45 years of age coupled with stress factors as a leader of Russia)
The assistant archeologists, who seems to be of African origin as suggested by his skin tone, with receded upper temporal hair line could be genetic and seems to have receded over a period of time.
This tribe is no longer the revered virgin hunter-gatherer tribe but a tribe being impacted by modernization. With only remnants of their stronger customs and traditions still in place and a Westernized younger generation, the tribe may be fully modernized in just 20 years.
Since full blown baldness occurs only among old men in this tribe, the question will be: What keeps baldness at bay among the younger generation of this tribe. Or what accelerates baldness in advanced civilizations?
And the answers to the question is another discussion with new sets of facts and suppositions that will require other disciplines.
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Re: Book Review & Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness
Sorry fender89. There is a lot to be said where there are people. BUT you have to open your eyes first, oops, I meant your mind.fender89 wrote:There's no point in "researching" anything about that collage of native people. Most of them are old, and surprise surprise most have MPB. wow, that's really weird and deserves further looking into?! Oh wait, no it doesn't. and no it's not weird. What WOULD be weird, is if they all had amazing full heads of hair. Then definitely, that would merit a bit of research huhuhu. And nobody is malnourished there seriously. They are skinny, being skinny is not malnourishment. They are just old and skinny.
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Re: Book Review & Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness
You got me, I yield. What is the mystery of mpb? Thanks.

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Do these guys eat meat or are they vegetarians?
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6 and 2 the same person? Anyway man 6 on the lower right appears to have a 5 0'Clock shadow on the top of his head. Or is it a really a shadow by the ethnic European?

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BTW - The guy on the rack on the lower left doesn't look to good.

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LOL ok commencing the opening of my mind.
Gimmie a while, just gotta stare and take in every ounce of detail from your collage of people and i'm sure i'll have a eureka moment in no time.
Gimmie a while, just gotta stare and take in every ounce of detail from your collage of people and i'm sure i'll have a eureka moment in no time.
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Re: Book Review & Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness
(The photos and the writeup is only in response to Armando-Jose's previous post Such a small sample size simply cannot be used to provide a definitive study.)
I forgot to note that, despite their old age, none of the native reached the maximum Hamilton-Norwood Type 7.
action-reaction, I find that hard to believe
The Inuits and northern natives in your posts would be an interesting study. Unfortunately it was not part of the study. If you have can gather enough data on their lifestyle and behavior rather than their diet/environment, that might give us some critical answers.
Whip, these native like all of our ancestors were hunter-gatherers. They're omnivores and most probably still are. With modernization in their midst, part of their food could now be processed with preservatives, grown with pesticides or fed with growth hormones. But that perspective still begs the question of why men only. What spares women? While we may still want to avoid these foods, I won't count on it in terms of MPB prevention.
tonyj, 6 and 2 are two different persons. Both are Hamilton-Norwood Type 6. Guy on the rack is dead
He's being mummified.
fender89, where's the brain?
I forgot to note that, despite their old age, none of the native reached the maximum Hamilton-Norwood Type 7.
action-reaction, I find that hard to believe
Whip, these native like all of our ancestors were hunter-gatherers. They're omnivores and most probably still are. With modernization in their midst, part of their food could now be processed with preservatives, grown with pesticides or fed with growth hormones. But that perspective still begs the question of why men only. What spares women? While we may still want to avoid these foods, I won't count on it in terms of MPB prevention.
tonyj, 6 and 2 are two different persons. Both are Hamilton-Norwood Type 6. Guy on the rack is dead
fender89, where's the brain?
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Re: Book Review & Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness
Good dodge, but Dmonitor / Barefoot I really am curious now, what's the mystery of MPB? You've intrigued me beyond the point of dropping this.

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Re: Book Review & Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness
barefoot, you should be asking yourself that question
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The other side of the coin
Bruce Boxleitner, 59 and 1/2 on the day of this photo.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3275327744/nm0000310
Seriously, someone also ought to research what these people are doing right!
Season's greetings to all,
-9r5-
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http://books.google.es/books?id=_gtCUiP0ZDUC&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=guelpa+hair+length&source=bl&ots=PfROaPUfR_&sig=1lPQumgIJQqrYnvLy4qKYG70718&hl=es&ei=5DQPTYiJGNaSjAfvzpy8Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=guelpa%20hair%20length&f=false
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