Bald scalp in men with androgenetic alopecia retains hair follicle stem cells but lacks CD200-rich and CD34-positive hair follicle progenitor cells.

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/44478

How helpful do you think this will be?

M

Wow... don't know what to say about this one. This opens some doors...

It's google time.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/health-15749655/baldness-breakthrough-root-cause-discovered-23757868

What is the effect of Laser's on progenitor cells?

Which frequency will have the most effect?

M

The study brings up more questions than answers, although, we're getting closer to a solution. The study points out in Alopecia Areata the progenitors cells are attacked by inflammation and spares the follicle stems cells but in Androgenic Alopecia, there is a defect in the follicle stem cell itself that stops producing progenitor cells. From what I gather, it is critical that there are progenitors cells along with follicle hair stem cells in order to grow hair. So is the defect a result of inflammation attack or mechanical interference like poor circulation? And still that pesky question, why a common balding pattern, if follicle stem cells can have a defect on any of the hair follicle stem cells then why are vertex and temples usually the first to go? Why not the sides?

And what is the connection to Testosterone - DHT- _______________ -Diminished progenitor cells.

one potential answer for why on top and not on sides is very lay, but... sebum and gravity.

M

Mastery on Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:25 pm
one potential answer for why on top and not on sides is very lay, but... sebum and gravity.

M

So maybe along with the inflammation as the foundation, adding to demise of the hair growth is a pattern that works on accelerating the hair loss by sebum and gravity.

Yeah, I have to say sebum is a bad bastard - CS agrees (he used to have that problem), OMG attacks it through Poly 80, jdp says that is the one thing that makes LLLT ineffective and scalp skin lady's micorscopes all say it's a bummer - and with the hair on top sebum has noweher to go.

I solved it for me, at long last after losing too much hair - through cutting out all cooked oils from my diet.

So now how to reverse it...?

I still think the solution must involve sytemic release of growth hormone. And for that free weights, great diet, supps and lots of sex is still # 1

M

Sebum in my understanding is nothing but a defensive capacity of the body against a loss of electrons

put duck skin or meat on a sink and duck confit (drowned in fat) - which one oxidises faster? you would grow old fast or even die fast without sebum

Ahha, there you are - well that is probably entirely true - all I can say is from y won experience, that I never minituarized or lost like I did when I had excess sebum, and now the sebum is back to Normal (not gone) no hairs on my pillow again this morning, and woke up feeling great - did one set of heavy squats and 2 quck sets of bicep curls within 5 minutes of waking up.

Every one is different for me I haev had real difficulty digesting fats and then it hit me excess coming out through scalp, so I stopped the cooked oils and woke up Xmas morning just feeling happy for the first time in ages. It was noticable that morning - first time I tired it - much more normal scalp and also felt very happy. Weird.

Also as I have cut out the oils I am beginning (early days) to fill in at the frontal hair line, along the gall bladder meridian line and gall bladder is bout hadnling fats, and that is the only place I have thinned.

How's Paris?

I once rode from a suburb in the south to Monte Carlo on a VFR 750 and made it by midnight, I left around lunchtime and regret to admit the speeds I enjoyed would not in any way be permitted nowadays. I was much younger then!

warmest regards,
M

Prague - Loss of electrons - I'd like to understand that better. May you assist?

And hope my last post was clear, not that I have no sebum but I was, de facto, drowning in it...

M

CS,

any idea how to activate progenitor cells?

Mastery

yes, we agree, sebum is bad - it's an indicator that your body lacks electrons, it protects its outer layer (skin) from oxidation, excess sebum = hairloss

in my electrical understanding of things the body need electrons from inside (reduction) in order to create electricity (life) since it's oxidised from the outside

the electron rich food and other aspects are what is called yang moreless in chinese medicine (certain foods, fasting)
on the other hand oxidised foods (especially oils), sulfites, brominated foods, grains without the living part (germ) "steal" electrons

foods and substances that give you electrons wash your hair from inside (remove sebum) = the body has enough electrons (anions) from the inside so it doesn't need to protect it's outer layer, skin, scalp

try to fast a day on lemon (or any other food that burns, stings on your tongue- HQ raw olive oil (it should sting), raw garlic, onion, ginger, sulfites free balsamico, roquette, acv, high vit C fruits like pineapple, etc) and observe close to 0 sebum production - comparing to the oilyness of the skin after the brominated flour, sulfites, cooked vegetable oils or anything that is bitter in your mouth (taste LQ processed heated olive oil how it is bitter); tongue is a great indicator, better than stomach i'd say