OT - Chronic Fatigue, Myalgic Encephalitis, Fibromyalgia

actYeah... it's a bag of fun alright. Not sure if you've seen this "patent" or not...

jdp701 wrote:For what it's worth, making your own 24 hour SCD yogurt is a cheaper alternative than colostrum for increased immune function.

Again, 24 hour SCD yogurt and not probiotics mixed in. Not the same thing.

hope this helps

jdp701 wrote:

actYeah... it's a bag of fun alright. Not sure if you've seen this "patent" or not...

lol, yup. I'm sure you saw, but there are some good quotes in this thread

if you do a search by using Ctrl F aids in this thread.

Also, this is interesting....

http://www.google.com/search?q=Mysterious+Deaths+of+Microbiologists&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

For what it's worth, making your own 24 hour SCD yogurt is a cheaper alternative than colostrum for increased immune function.

jdp701 wrote:Yeah, definitely not bad at all. I use this http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Yogurt-Starter/dp/B0019CUN78/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1296588378&sr=8-9

Also learned that you don't need to eat much for the benefits. IME, If you eat too much, the casein from the milk can get to you... damn mercury, lol.

Here is an incomplete list of common neurotoxins in order of importance:
(i) Heavy metals: such as mercury, lead, cadmium and aluminum.
(ii) Biotoxins: such as tetanus toxin, botulinum toxin (botox), ascaridin (from
intestinal parasites), unspecified toxins from streptococci, staphylococci, lyme
disease, clamydia, tuberculosis, fungal toxins and toxins produced by viruses.
Biotoxins are minute molecules (200-1000 kilodaltons) containing nitrogen and
sulfur. They belong to a group of chemical messengers which microorganisms
use to control the host’s immune system, host behavior and the host’s eating
habits.
(iii) Xenobiotics (man-made environmental toxins): such as dioxin, phthalates,
formaldehyde, insecticides, wood preservatives, PCBs etc.
(iv) Food Preservatives, excitotoxins and cosmetics: such as aspartame (diet
sweeteners) food colorings, fluoride, methyl-and propyl-paraben, etc.
I have found that mercury in its different chemical forms has a synergistic
amplifying effect with all other neurotoxins. When mercury is removed, the
body starts to more effectively eliminate all other neurotoxins, even if they are
not addressed.

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/neurotoxin/NeurotoxinProtocol_Jan06.pdf

Tip #1:

Lyme symptoms worsen during and after successful mercury
detoxification (Hg-poisoning was successfully used as a treatment for
spirochetes. After eliminating Hg, the microbes recover before the host
immune system does).

Mold symptoms improve after successful Hg removal (mold uses Hg to
protect itself from the host immune system)
Tip#2:

Lyme arthritis affects the large joints, mostly knee and hip

Mold arthritis affects the small joints of the spine (facet joints) and of the
fingers
Tip#3: rythms and biorythms:

mold symptoms can flare up within minutes after exposure (ie visiting
someone who lives in a moldy home)

Lyme symptoms undulate with slower biorythms: 9-10 day cycles, 28-day
cycles . When symptoms come back, usually slow rise in intensity over 24
hours.

Worm and parasite symptoms worsen for 2-3 days during the full moon
(this is when they are sexually most active and propagate – with
accompanying immune reaction). Patient feels relatively well during new
moon
Tip#4: location:

mold sufferers feel better in dry climates

Lyme sufferers cannot tolerate sunshine and often feel worse in dry/sunny
climates (avoid sun, get depressed in sun)
Tip#5: behavior/moods:

worms in men: risk taking behavior. In women: docile behavior. In both:
short episodes of odd crazy schizoid behavior (hours).

Neuro-Lyme: episodes of rages and depression. Same mood may last for a
few days or weeks, not minutes. Normal/nice episodes even in illest
person. Get easily infatuated in inappropriate ways

Mold: often moods connected with dullness of brain. Can change in
minutes after exposure. Often chronically irritated as long as in mold
environment and immediately better, as soon as out

Metal toxicity: affected patients drawn to the dark/evil. Man made:
artificial environments (prefer Disney land over trip to the ocean), rhythm
without real music

abc123 wrote:Would highly recommend SCD diet with lots of organic (if possible raw) kefir. Kefir > all other probiotic capsules in my experience. Lots of raw milk/raw vegetables to help raise glutathione. Lots of organ meats such as liver and heart.

Hey abc, thanks for the post, SCD yogurt and other kefir is on the immediate list, as I have a source for raw milk now.

Keep chelating

Hell yeah, it's really been a life saver for me. I keep adding new chelation strategies.

Strict oral hygiene regiment

Sea Salt, four times a day with hot water, definitely a big part of most diseases let alone what I'm going through. Thanks.

Mind-body connection (im not saying cfs is in your head) is a huge component of cfs imo. Symptoms -> conscious/unconscious negative thoughts -> stress response -> unable to heal. For some people, their belief that they are stuck with cfs and it is "incurable" is the biggest hurdle to recovery. A regiment of meditation/visualisation/cbt will be extremely usefull in addressing this. More on mind-body http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU8ftmmhmw

As sick as I am and have been, I'm tenaciously level and optomistic, while I hate the placebo effect I am fully open and receptive to improvement, which I've definitely got, a great point though. Some people not only trap themselves but CFS seems to turn into a security blanket.

You probably didn't get cfs overnight so its unlikely you'll get better overnight. Try to look at improvement in 6month time frames.

good luck

Thanks abc, hope all is well on your end too!