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interesting observation - inversion table

Post  calvicie on Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:28 pm

Interesting observation from a personal experienceÖ

For the past six months or so, Iíve been scrubbing my head with a palm brush, a couple of times a day, for a few minutes each time, typically at my desk when I first arrive to the office. My desk is black, making detritus from my head easily visible, and I was always amazed at the quantity of the flakes of dried skin and number of hairs that would fall. I didnít count individual hairs, nor was I too concerned about counting them; however, I couldnít help but take note of referential quantities, along with an almost standard oscillating wave frequency between the higher count and lower count falls that seemed to fall in to a pretty predictable pattern.

Now for the interesting part. I used to use an inversion table for knee and hip relief after ulta-marathons, but its probably been a good 15 years since Iíd used one. On a whim, I bought a new one about three weeks ago and have used it every evening since, for a minimum of five minutes and a max of ten minutes, hanging completely vertical while playing with my sonís PSP (Grand Theft Auto helps make the ten minutes not so monotonous). Between character deaths, Iíd brush my head for 30 seconds or so, but nothing special.

What I have noticed is the quantity of hairs that fall when I scrub my head in the morning has recently decreased drastically. The rest of the skin, dandruff, smega, or whatever the hell it is, is still there in comparable quantities, but Iíve gone from approx 40-50+ hairs down to less than 10. Now granted, this could just be a fluke and there are external factors that I am oblivious too, but it does make me wonder. If anything changes, Iíll let you know. Suerte.

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Re: interesting observation - inversion table

Post  Paradox on Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:36 pm

I'm wondering if there is less hair in the morning because you are shedding more of it when you are inverted and brushing at that time? That sounds encouraging though, keep us posted.

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What is the benefit?

Post  Guest on Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:02 pm

Hi Calvicie;

First time posting. What do you feel is the benefit, if any, of using the inversion table?

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calvicie wrote:Interesting observation from a personal experienceÖ

For the past six months or so, Iíve been scrubbing my head with a palm brush, a couple of times a day, for a few minutes each time, typically at my desk when I first arrive to the office. My desk is black, making detritus from my head easily visible, and I was always amazed at the quantity of the flakes of dried skin and number of hairs that would fall. I didnít count individual hairs, nor was I too concerned about counting them; however, I couldnít help but take note of referential quantities, along with an almost standard oscillating wave frequency between the higher count and lower count falls that seemed to fall in to a pretty predictable pattern.

Now for the interesting part. I used to use an inversion table for knee and hip relief after ulta-marathons, but its probably been a good 15 years since Iíd used one. On a whim, I bought a new one about three weeks ago and have used it every evening since, for a minimum of five minutes and a max of ten minutes, hanging completely vertical while playing with my sonís PSP (Grand Theft Auto helps make the ten minutes not so monotonous). Between character deaths, Iíd brush my head for 30 seconds or so, but nothing special.

What I have noticed is the quantity of hairs that fall when I scrub my head in the morning has recently decreased drastically. The rest of the skin, dandruff, smega, or whatever the hell it is, is still there in comparable quantities, but Iíve gone from approx 40-50+ hairs down to less than 10. Now granted, this could just be a fluke and there are external factors that I am oblivious too, but it does make me wonder. If anything changes, Iíll let you know. Suerte.

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Re: interesting observation - inversion table

Post  ubraj on Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:26 pm

Inversion and bee venom ointment at the back of the neck are two areas to help with the CCSVI issues per Dr. Klinghardt. There have been some good posts on CCSVI on this forum about this in helping to open up the veins.

Course would also need to stop the inflammation that closes off the veins as well but inversion and bee venom are two that are said to work well once the inflammation has ceased.

hope this helps

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Re: interesting observation - inversion table

Post  calvicie on Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:57 pm

update - I'm still amazed at the low hair fall count, going on two weeks now of minimal fall while brushing. I've also looked closer and noticed those few hairs that do fall are thicker/older hairs, with no thin, feeble hairs in the mix as I noted before.

Paradox wrote:I'm wondering if there is less hair in the morning because you are shedding more of it when you are inverted and brushing at that time? That sounds encouraging though, keep us posted.
hmmm, don't think so because my morning shower routine of scrubbing my head hasn't changed, but then again, could be. I suppose only time will tell.

Guest wrote:What do you feel is the benefit, if any, of using the inversion table?

good question and makes me wonder if there is some merit to the whole blood flow/papilla argument. Again, I'm not yet sure if what is happening to me now is a result of using the table for the past few weeks, the six months of brushing I've been doing that is finally starting to pay off, or some other positive reaction to something else that I'm not aware of.

For a little background, I'm a diffuse thinner, no bald spot, but definitely thin in the vertex and top front, with no receding at front or temples. I've been following the forum for nearly a year and have changed my diet accordingly, but I live in third world South America where supplement imports are not allowed, so my intake is limited. I did buy a rife machine, more for fun and experimentation since I am somewhat of a gadget nerd, but it was unfortunately seized by customs.

good luck...



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Sounds positive

Post  wildman on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:58 pm


Do you feel that this is a positive development? It would appear from what you are saying, that if fewer hairs are falling out, this could be considered a good thing. Has the quality of your hair changed, and if so, how is the overall condition of your scalp, compared to before you started this regimen?



quote="calvicie"]update - I'm still amazed at the low hair fall count, going on two weeks now of minimal fall while brushing. I've also looked closer and noticed those few hairs that do fall are thicker/older hairs, with no thin, feeble hairs in the mix as I noted before.

Paradox wrote:I'm wondering if there is less hair in the morning because you are shedding more of it when you are inverted and brushing at that time? That sounds encouraging though, keep us posted.
hmmm, don't think so because my morning shower routine of scrubbing my head hasn't changed, but then again, could be. I suppose only time will tell.

Guest wrote:What do you feel is the benefit, if any, of using the inversion table?

good question and makes me wonder if there is some merit to the whole blood flow/papilla argument. Again, I'm not yet sure if what is happening to me now is a result of using the table for the past few weeks, the six months of brushing I've been doing that is finally starting to pay off, or some other positive reaction to something else that I'm not aware of.

For a little background, I'm a diffuse thinner, no bald spot, but definitely thin in the vertex and top front, with no receding at front or temples. I've been following the forum for nearly a year and have changed my diet accordingly, but I live in third world South America where supplement imports are not allowed, so my intake is limited. I did buy a rife machine, more for fun and experimentation since I am somewhat of a gadget nerd, but it was unfortunately seized by customs.

good luck...


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Re: interesting observation - inversion table

Post  jimmyw on Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:09 pm

Do you have to be completely inverted, or does almost inverted count? as there is a lot less pressure on the ankles when on an inversion table, as I am thinking of doing sets, where I am fully inverted for 3 minutes, and the 7 minutes almost fully inverted, and would imagine you would still get the benefits for CCSVI.

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Re: interesting observation - inversion table

Post  calvicie on Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:27 pm

wildman wrote:Do you feel that this is a positive development?
yes, most definitely

wildman wrote:Has the quality of your hair changed, and if so, how is the overall condition of your scalp, compared to before you started this regimen?
I think it's still too early to make any judgements at this point and I don't know if its just wishful thinking, but my hair is starting to feel less wirey.

jimmyw wrote:Do you have to be completely inverted, or does almost inverted count?
I don't think you have to fully inverted as I still feel the pressure when 3/4 inverted. But based on my prior experience with the table, I invested in extra cushioning on the attachment for the ankles and invert fully. its just more comfortable for me that way.

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Post  Mastery on Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:22 pm

Of course this works, it's obvious. I've been banging on about headstands for ages...

So has Yoga before me

Go hang... :-)

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Re: interesting observation - inversion table

Post  calvicie on Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:18 pm

well another week of two of hanging and not only is the hair fall count staying near zero, the quantity of detritus has also started to drop off drastically. before i could scoop all the crap together and it would probably fill a thimble 1/3 full. now its down to a light dusting, probably 25% or less of what it was before.

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Post  gbp2000 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:43 pm

Mastery, I have my own theories - but why do you think inversion and Yoga works for some and is derided by others. I think it has gotten a very unfair reputation, but have yet to try it myself as I want to give THAT method a full run before augmenting it.

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still hanging

Post  calvicie on Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:56 pm

update - still positive results with respect to hair fall and detritus amounts. i can't believe i had any hair left on my head when comparing hair fall quantities a couple of months ago with what I'm losing now, which is practically nothing.

down side is that my eyebrows have freaked out and a couple of wild hairs sprouted out that required clipping. Ear hair also appears more dense, requiring battling back with tweezers. Back and knees also feel great, so even if this doesn't do anything in the long run for my hair, I'm happy with the purchase of the table.

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Post  Paradox on Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:24 pm

calvicie wrote:update - still positive results with respect to hair fall and detritus amounts. i can't believe i had any hair left on my head when comparing hair fall quantities a couple of months ago with what I'm losing now, which is practically nothing.

down side is that my eyebrows have freaked out and a couple of wild hairs sprouted out that required clipping. Ear hair also appears more dense, requiring battling back with tweezers. Back and knees also feel great, so even if this doesn't do anything in the long run for my hair, I'm happy with the purchase of the table.

Thanks for the update. Sounds promising, and it would be nice if i could afford one right now. Does it help with your posture? The random hair growth is what happens to me on minoxidil which is interesting.

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Re: interesting observation - inversion table

Post  sanderson on Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:52 am

Thanks for this post. I'm definitely going to buy one of these on my next paycheck, I forgot these existed. Looking on google shopping they are less than $100. I've been trying to do headstands on my own.. not happening. But this post reminded me of a post I read on here only yesterday that you all may find very interesting.

Lord_Justin13 made a huge post over here - immortalhair.forumandco.com/t3483-the-big-three-diseases-associated-with-mpb#30859 and said the following:

1. Minoxidil, This one works by saturating the scalp till it reaches the bloodstream. Originally treated for High Blood Pressure, many users of the product found that they would grow more hair, or re-grow hair. Once in the bloodstream, it dilates one of the potassium channels, and releases more blood and nutrients through the potassium channel which plays a major role in Hair growth.

(M.P.B. sufferers on average have 2% Blood flow in the scalp, as Non-M.P.B. Sufferers have 10%...)

Minoxidil, chemically is ďpotassium channel agonist.Ē Derived from the chemical structure of Nitric oxide (NO), a blood vessel dilator, is a nitric oxide agonist, Minoxidil may also act via release of Guanylate cyclase, an enzyme connected to vasodilation.

Minoxidil tricks the body into thinking it's preforming it's proper duty in ridding your blood system of LDL Cholesterol, Plague, Free-radicals etc..., since the body is receiving these compounds from an outside source, production lessons and becomes limited, hence, those who start rogaine then stop later, experience more shedding, and further hair loss. When the body is tricked this way, it cuts back on natural production and flushing of (NO).

MPB stands for I believe male pattern baldness. Not sure if his references reinforce what he said there, but it goes in line why this would be helpful if it does increase blood flow.

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Re: interesting observation - inversion table

Post  calvicie on Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:30 am

Paradox wrote:Does it help with your posture?
I haven't noticed, but didn't really have bad posture originally, so didn't pay put too much attention.

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