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Post  9rugrats5 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:40 pm

Excellent, jdp, thank you. I am still searching the forum for your and CS's posts on the matter, and just across your older posts on the cofactors you have listed here as well.

So, the L-form bacteria aka the cell well deficient bacteria, that we are combating here might or might not have a targeted approach to eliminate? And just like other pathogens, one needs to take the holistic approach, I guess? I do think autoimmune issues run in my family to one extent or another, and so I find this pertinent.

Edit- "How do you recover from Vitamin D dysregulation? The bottom line is to kill these pathogens through direct ways of killing them"
Do elaborate on what you consider direct ways of killing them. Antibiotics, you mean?

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Here's CS's take on the matter, for those who are reading this thread...
http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/t5751-antibacterial-effects-of-vitamin-d#56133
"Also for those that do not know, it is believed that cell wall deficient bacteria, also known as L-form bacteria
can be treated and tested for.

For example, tests such as a viral and/or bacterial panel can be ordered such as mycoplasma.
Specific, short course antibiotics can be effective (especially when taken with probiotics).

My final point, don't worry about fearing Vitamin D unless you have an autoimmune disease, and if you do,
check for the associated bacterial infections."

Edit- And jdp's reply in the above thread...
"With the first quote from CS on this thread regarding L form being easy to test for, can be treated with short course antibiotics and limited to certain autoimmune diseases. My research and experience is the exact opposite as well. Testing is highly inaccurate and almost not worth doing. Antibiotics is a huge let down as they'll just run to cyst form, biofilm issues, parasite issues and generally not in blood. Treaging with a few herbs also may not cut it either."

Hmm, tricky tricky Smile

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Btw, here's a sunlight vit-D calculator that has been posted before ....
http://nadir.nilu.no/~olaeng/fastrt/VitD-ez_quartMED.html

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Post  ubraj on Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:55 pm

Yes, my view on Vitamin D and even my experience with it is not the norm. The information that I post regarding Vitamin D only a very very small percentage believe this. The topic is incredibly important to understand however. Otherwise, I would have left that subject alone a long-time ago.

Regarding target approach to eliminate... yeah, antibiotics (don't take them though), MMS, (again, don't take it though), Rife, Iodine, herbs, supplements, nosodes (homeopathy),etc..





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Post  9rugrats5 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:58 pm

Jdp, in the same thread i have pasted from above you have said...

"The very best treatment have found is eastern medicine. I've read only one other case from someone reliable who also says same. As a disclaimer should mention was treated by one of the best in the world so it's possible others who go to average person may not get as good of results."

Could you kindly elaborate on this too?

Also, do you think CCSVI is linked to the l-form bacteria and VDR issues as well?

thanks again.

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Post  ubraj on Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:10 pm

If you can find a true healer they can perform miracles. Those in other parts of the world know this but generally don't have access to someone powerful. In the west, we call BS and say this isn't possible. It's possible IME. They know how to manipulate energy. What effects the energy body effects the physical body. And what effects the physical body also effects the energy body.


Regarding CCSVI, it's caused by biofilm issues. It appears the biggest culprit to biofilm issues is a pathogen called FL1953 which is especially known for causing pain.

Nobody knows if FL1953 causes Vitamin D issues but keep in mind that it creates a lot of biofilm. And that pathogens hide out in this biofilm. Indirectly, FL1953 and CCSVI through the biofilm would be linked. Because of the other pathogens that are found in the biofilm

I hope that makes sense.

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Post  9rugrats5 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:26 pm

rdkml wrote:If you can find a true healer they can perform miracles. Those in other parts of the world know this but generally don't have access to someone powerful. In the west, we call BS and say this isn't possible. It's possible IME. They know how to manipulate energy. What effects the energy body effects the physical body. And what effects the physical body also effects the energy body.

Indirectly, FL1953 and CCSVI through the biofilm would be linked. Because of the other pathogens that are found in the biofilm

Although I am from an eastern nation, I have not come across healers like these. At least, they are not readily accessible to lay people as you have pointed out. I do agree that there is a link to energy body and physical health, and this might be better explored by medical researchers more in the coming days. One of the impediments in researching this phenomenon is the lack of measurement tools to measure energy fields around the human body. With time, such tools might come, though.

Personally, I think you make a compelling case with your ideas on VDR and immune system, and this agrees with my observations with my health and of those around myself.

much appreciated, as always.

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Post  FATE on Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:50 pm

Paradox wrote:rdkml,

If we are all in such poor health in one way or another, why will some of us have completely normal lab work? When they do a comprehensive panel which includes liver and kidney, as well as blood cells that would indicate infection, etc.. Why is it so "hidden" is what I am asking. Wouldn't all of us who are balding have something in common which we would find on a lab test of some kind?

To me it makes sense that all of us should have a common denominator which would be a "marker" so to speak. What would that be which we could test for?

I know what you mean and I thought a while ago that we all should work together to produce a survey/questionnaire of symptoms (like change in hair profile, inflammation or not, pattern, eg...) lifestyle (common drugs used, exercise, area living in, eg...) diet and more to filter sufferers of hair loss into categories, then people that have stopped/slowed/regrowth can be used maybe to help sufferers more easily find there reason they are losing hair...
I feel there are lots of reasons for hair loss and I know we between the forums do have labs or testing facilities but a deep questionnaire is on a positive move into progressing forward, right?


What do you think CS?

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Post  ubraj on Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:14 am

I thought this quote from truesun from lymenet quote Dr. K might be helpful for someone here


"Most -- if not all -- chronic infectious diseases are not caused by a failure of the immune system, but are a conscious adaptation of the immune system to an otherwise lethal heavy metal environment."

What does this mean? It means essentially that because mercury

"suffocates the the intracellular respiratory mechanism and can cause cell death [that] the immune system makes a deal; it cultivates fungi and bacteria that can bind large amounts of toxic metals. The gain: the cells can breath. The cost: the system has to provide nutrition for the microorganisms and has to deal with their metabolic products ("toxins"). That does not imply that the tolerated guest cannot grow out of control, as it sometimes clearly does. Therefore, there is still a limited place for antifungal / antibacterial treatment -- but only for the acute phase of the disease. A so-called "die-off effect" (the sometimes severe crisis or even lethal reaction a patient can have in the initial stages of aggressive pharmaceutical antifungal or antibacterial treatment) is often nothing else but acute heavy metal toxicity -- metals released from the cell walls of dying microorganisms as suggested by my own correlation of clinical syndromes and urinalysis for metals."
Amalgam/Mercury Detox as a Treatment for Chronic Viral, Bacterial, and Fungal Illnesses, Paper presented at the Sept. 1996 Annual Meeting of the International and American Academy of Clinical Nutrition, San Diego, CA)."



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Post  Misirlou on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:12 am

rdkml
Where would cellular electron shortage fit in this puzzle?

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Post  ubraj on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:48 am

Same thing as positively charged issues that I've talk about.

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Post  Paradox on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:59 am

rdkml wrote:I thought this quote from truesun from lymenet quote Dr. K might be helpful for someone here


"Most -- if not all -- chronic infectious diseases are not caused by a failure of the immune system, but are a conscious adaptation of the immune system to an otherwise lethal heavy metal environment."

What does this mean? It means essentially that because mercury

"suffocates the the intracellular respiratory mechanism and can cause cell death [that] the immune system makes a deal; it cultivates fungi and bacteria that can bind large amounts of toxic metals. The gain: the cells can breath. The cost: the system has to provide nutrition for the microorganisms and has to deal with their metabolic products ("toxins"). That does not imply that the tolerated guest cannot grow out of control, as it sometimes clearly does. Therefore, there is still a limited place for antifungal / antibacterial treatment -- but only for the acute phase of the disease. A so-called "die-off effect" (the sometimes severe crisis or even lethal reaction a patient can have in the initial stages of aggressive pharmaceutical antifungal or antibacterial treatment) is often nothing else but acute heavy metal toxicity -- metals released from the cell walls of dying microorganisms as suggested by my own correlation of clinical syndromes and urinalysis for metals."
Amalgam/Mercury Detox as a Treatment for Chronic Viral, Bacterial, and Fungal Illnesses, Paper presented at the Sept. 1996 Annual Meeting of the International and American Academy of Clinical Nutrition, San Diego, CA)."



Jdp,

Are you on board with the cutler protocol, or do you think there are better chelation methods? How long would you do it for before a follow up provoked test to see how much metal is left?

CS recommended neem capsules to me and I have been taking them. They are anti-fungal, antibacterial, and anti-parasitic. He showed me a test where neem was similar in effectiveness to valium for anxiety via a different mechanism obviously.


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Post  ubraj on Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:32 pm

Yes, I recommend the Cutler protocol.

I couldn't tell you about testing as the testing isn't entirely accurate anyway.

For anxiety, there is also niacinamide taken 500 mg multiple times per day.

There is also brain entrainment you can try. Maybe try the ones on youtube. It's kinda like PEMF frequencies or BT-7 (bio tuner) to help put your brain in the zone.

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Post  Misirlou on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:47 am

rdkml wrote:Same thing as positively charged issues that I've talk about.
Meaning? Do you believe that free electrons harbored on the surface of the earth are "bioavailable" to the human organism through direct contact?

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Post  ubraj on Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:50 am

Yes. It's a good way of getting antioxidants.

But things get more complicated than just saying a lack of electrons is what causes hair loss. I've tried explaining the process many times before for almost the past two years so it's in my prior posts if you want to do a search. And even gave info in an earlier post in this thread and other threads.

For example, reading that old homeopathy site shows there are specific minerals when they've become positively charged rather than their usual negative charge cause hair loss.

It's not terribly hard to correct the postively charged issues in the body. It comes back to chelation. If you know which minerals are positively charged through symptoms from that homeopathy site then you can take the homepathy form to bring it back to a negative charge.

For example, many people think they are zinc deficient. But instead of taking the usual zinc supplement can take the zinc homeopath and it will turn all the positively charged zinc that was biounavailable and even toxic to being bioavailable again.

This is part of the reason why homeopathy works. The other being is it still contains a frequency to get the immune system to work to recognize a specific toxin or pathogen or whatever is being taken.

But again, it's not terribly hard to reverse these issues. Wearing a zapper for several weeks straight such as a T2 or T3 is said to work by newport. Antioxidants do of which Even taking general antioxidants like Vitamin C will I've mentioned earthing should also work for this as well and what I do.

Then there is chelation of mercury, lead, radiation reduction (take baking soda and salt/epsom salt baths will reduce radiation levels), microwave ovens, MMS/chlorine (hot showers), etc.. Those are the big culprits. Those are the main ones to prevent one from being positively charged.

Again, correcting this isn't terribly hard to do. The hard part is getting rid of biofilm is harder to do for most people and what I more try to focus on to help others. Here is a quote from GiGi.

The Biofilm has a negative charge and is held together --

By molecules with a positive charge – calcium
Magnesium, iron

and virtually all toxic metals

Treatment: Heavy metal complexing agents (Microsilica, and oral DMPS to cocktail, curcumin)

Iron chelators (liposomal artemisinin, Desferal)

Calcium/magnesium chelators: vinegar, Rechtsregulat, Sodium EDTA (oral or rectal), not calcium EDTA, not i.v. sodium EDTA with the addition of magnesium!

Gut-Biofilm: prevents the normal flora (like acidophilus) from thriving

Gut-biofilm prevents or minimizes the absorption of nutrients and all supplements

Gut-biofilm progresses when sigA levels are low

Treatment to increase IgA:

Vit A, Homeo-K homeopathics, glutamine, slippery elm

Stress reduction (EMR, mold, psychological), meditation, brain synchronizing (CES Ultra www.Little TreeGroup.co,)

Avoid gluten and all non-compatioble foods


I'm hoping I'm not losing you guys. I've been posting about this for so long that I'm starting to think that I'm posting about too advanced of topics for the people still left. I have tried to break it down to very basic info and the summary but it's possible my info might be causing more confusion than anything.

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Post  phoenix21 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:26 pm

jdp, dont mean to change the subject too much, and sorry if youve answered this already, but what are your thoughts on scalp psoriasis/seborrheic dermatitis? Do you believe these are also tied to biofilm?

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Post  ubraj on Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:30 pm

I really don't know anything about psoriasis or dermatitis but I do know eczema is associated with a specific virus which is found in a specific bacteria and a specific biofilm. While not the only thing that causes hair loss, this specific virus I agree is connected with hair loss IME http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=1527217

Mercury is also known to be associated here as well.

Beyond this, this link may also help http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/eczema2.htm

Also, what I did check is that psoriasis is connected with methylation issues as well. With methylation issues viral issues become common. I saw at least one testimonial from a random google search that the pyro energen cleared up their psoriasis and another one for eczema. The pyro energen is a cool device that reduces all viral issues that I've heard good things about but I don't own one.

If you're curious, acne and boils are also associated with a specific biofilm. I have never had another pimple or boil in the past two years after I removed the two pathogens responsible... although, very bad herxes would produce one or two. Not like I had a problem before other than the occasional one but it did prove to me that acne and boils are pretty easy to eradicate to never have again. At least for me.

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Post  9rugrats5 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:53 pm

So far, the impression I have had on the matter of charge is that the body in a depleted or ill state might have a deficiency of free electrons. In any conducting material, electricity is conducted via the flow of free electrons. A depletion of electrons, probably due to presence of heavy metals, toxins and pathogens would cause a shortage of of such an electron cloud. In other words, it would seem to me to cause energy blockages in and around the body. Iow, still, it would lead to depletion of aura or whatever that means to us. And a resulting positive charge, of course.

rdkml wrote:It's not terribly hard to correct the postively charged issues in the body. It comes back to chelation. If you know which minerals are positively charged through symptoms from that homeopathy site then you can take the homepathy form to bring it back to a negative charge.

For example, many people think they are zinc deficient. But instead of taking the usual zinc supplement can take the zinc homeopath and it will turn all the positively charged zinc that was biounavailable and even toxic to being bioavailable again.

I do not quite understand how certain positively charged ions of metals can be turned neutral. Whenever metals are ionised, they would be positively charged, since that is how they furnish/ make available electrons, and are balanced by negatively charged ions. For example, Zinc would ionise as Zn2+ possibly balanced by two Chlorine atoms, 2Cl-. I would imagine everything within cells remains in these two ionized forms, unless bound to an organic (carbon chained) molecule when the charge/ionization may be much smaller and localized.

If that is actually the state of affairs, and do correct me if I'm wrong here, then we cannot just turn positively charged metals into neutral atoms or molecules. But if there is an electron shortage in localized tissue or organ, or in the body overall, then that can be corrected by making free electrons available from earth, foods, holistic medicine, etc.

rdkml wrote:
I'm hoping I'm not losing you guys. I've been posting about this for so long that I'm starting to think that I'm posting about too advanced of topics for the people still left. I have tried to break it down to very basic info and the summary but it's possible my info might be causing more confusion than anything.

No, you didn't lose us, not completely anyway Very Happy As usual from you, very good advice, to serve as a starting point for looking into things more, and appreciated.

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Post  ubraj on Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:50 am

Actually, it was explained to me a long-time ago that it appears that the meridians and/or chakras acts as vortexes to help prevent positively charged issues in the body. Similar to how one is able to negatively charge water through those vortex machines. Those machines that cause a mini tornado in the water.

So again, it appears removing the energy blockages from the body will help prevent positively charged issues in the body and not the other way around.

And I know it would be mentioned that there are minerals and metals such as copper and iron that are suppose to be positively charged. Yes, that true but what happens when you super oxidize/ super positively charge them by saying binding mercury with iron you end up with rust. Or you bind mercury with copper you end up with green copper. Those are oxidized metals.

You body will naturally try to remove these oxidized minerals and metals as they are now biounavailable and toxic and will be even excreted out of the hair and skin. There was a study that CS post about a year ago showing copper being elevated in the hair of those with hair loss or MPB or similar.

Well, instead of consuming say copper supplement, one can take the copper homeopath to turn that green copper back to the way it should be and thus bioavailable again. It takes a certain number of negative ions to offset one positively charged ion. I don't remember the exact ratio but this is where homeopathy partly works for.

Others can take antioxidants or other methods. Here is one quote from Dr. K about taking antioxidants to help offset this.

Oxidized used-up iron and copper get displaced into the extracellular compartment and body fluids and appears in the hair and skin, as the body’s most efficient way of excreting toxins without hurting the kidneys. This has led to the dangerous and in its consequence catastrophic assumption, that these metals are the enemy and need to be restricted. It is true, that oxidized metals pose a danger and have to be reduced (=substitution of electrons) or eliminated. However, when copper and iron are needed and substituted appropriately, major improvements have been observed. Appropriate antioxidant treatment can reduce these metals….

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“Filling up the body’s mineral reserves has always been the most essential part of our heavy metal detox program. It is also the most essential part of our Lyme treatment.”

But really, I'm not that smart in this area. Nobody really is though. I really just know enough to get a basic understanding of what to do and what not to do with positively charged issues/oxidized issues.

None of this information will be in textbooks or medicine books. Supposedly this information comes from the old school homeopathy geniuses who are all dead now. They knew about these positively charged issues where you can turn your minerals and metals to being biounavailable and thus toxic. And most all my understanding comes from newport. I really don't know much more than this though.

They knew that if you dilute a toxin to unmeasurable levels, that the vial will still contain a frequency signature and your body will thus see it as a problem and remove the toxin from the body. It will help activate the immune system to say that their is a toxin in the body that needs to be eliminated.

This removal of toxin can also be used for removing specific pathogens from the body. Pathogens use toxins as an anchor. To help hide from the immune system. If you remove that toxin/anchor for the specific pathogen that uses that specific toxin, then the immune system may be able to remove that pathogen on it's own.

This is how gelsenium was used during the Spanish flu epidemic with only one fatality. The person knew that if you remove that toxin, that the spanish flu won't be able to hide in the body. It's just like today. If you remove BPA from the body, the bird flu can't stay in the body.

Other methods in homeopathy as well but enough typing for today.

hope this helps

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Post  ubraj on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:11 am

I'll post this one last comment on the subject and will leave it as that so that I don't keep beating a dead horse in a manner of speaking.

Here is a good quote on what I've been trying to say the past almost two years. Testing for these heavy metals, toxins and pathogens are very complex and highly inaccurate in traditional testing. Not to mention in chronic ailments such as hair loss, there never is just one pathogen or toxin but multiple ones that act like dominoes.



"Chronic Infections Important in Various Illnesses

The complex signs and symptoms that evolve in many, perhaps even in a majority of chronic illness patients, may be due, in part, to systemic chronic infections (bacteria, viruses, fungi) that can penetrate into various organs, including the central nervous system (CNS). Such infections often follow acute or chronic heavy metal, chemical, biological (viral, bacterial, fungal infections) or environmental insults or even multiple vaccines that have the potential to suppress the immune system and leave children susceptible to opportunistic infections [2-5]. These illnesses probably evolve slowly over time in a multi-step process that may require multiple genetic defects along with multiple toxic exposures.


Chronic infections may be an important element in the development or progression of autism. Such infections are usually held in check by immune surveillance, but they can take hold and become a problem if they can avoid host immunity and penetrate and hide in various tissues and organs, including cells of the CNS and peripheral nervous system. When such infections occur, they may cause many of the complex signs and symptoms seen in various chronic illnesses [5, 6]. Changes in environmental responses and increased titers to various endogenous viruses as well as bacterial and fungal infections have been commonly seen in chronic illnesses [5, 6]."

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aYSceuLd2OgJ:www.immed.org/newsletters%2520uploads/GN_AutismNewsL-02.5.22.rtf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Post  gg4545 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:57 am

jdp i read one of your posts that more or less was that hm detox could bring out the signs of lyme so you may have done it properly but wont feel better, so what does one do when faced with this??

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Post  9rugrats5 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:21 pm

Thanks, jdp, regarding how metal charges could happen in the body, superoxides states, or if mercury could have a role in iron rust or copper salts, I am not familiar. But your post provides enough clues to start a search.

"So again, it appears removing the energy blockages from the body will help prevent positively charged issues in the body and not the other way around."

What could cause the energy blockages in the first place though. one wonders. It could be emotional issues, pathogens, toxins, probably a combination of all. In retrospect, the idea of energic field and charges are not altogether divorced from each other, just as magnetism and electricity are coupled. So the presence of one would imply the presence of other, as I can see it.

Agree that there is a lot more to homoeopathy than meets the eye. Various ideas have been proposed over time as to how it works, including frequency medicine and memory idea. One does need an insightful homoepath though Smile and they are rare to find. But for making minerals bioavailable, I agree, that it is a good approach, and does not depend as much on finding an expert practitioner.

thank you.

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Post  phoenix21 on Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:25 am

jdp, thanks again for your thoughts, very interesting stuff. Is there any way I can pm or contact you outside of just posting?

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Post  ubraj on Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:58 pm

gg4545,

Sorry, I didn't see your post.

Yes, that's correct. At one time, mercury was used as a successful treat against syphillis.

When you remove mercury from someone with a spirochete illness (e.g. lyme, syphillis, etc) such as through the Cutler chelation protocol and the person mentions feeling worse, the ill feeling is most likely caused by the spirochetes gaining ground.

How to get around this one one would have to focus their treatments on eradicating lyme.

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/Protocols/Klinghardt-Neurotoxin-Elimination-Protocol.html

"Most symptoms of heavy metal toxicity, mold exposure, Lyme disease and
parasite infestation often look identical. Here is a way to differentiate:
Tip #1:
 Lyme symptoms worsen during and after successful mercury
detoxification (Hg-poisoning was successfully used as a treatment for
spirochetes. After eliminating Hg, the microbes recover before the host
immune system does).

 Mold symptoms improve after successful Hg removal (mold uses Hg to
protect itself from the host immune system)
Tip#2:
 Lyme arthritis affects the large joints, mostly knee and hip
 Mold arthritis affects the small joints of the spine (facet joints) and of the
fingers
Tip#3: rythms and biorythms:
 mold symptoms can flare up within minutes after exposure (ie visiting
someone who lives in a moldy home)
 Lyme symptoms undulate with slower biorythms: 9-10 day cycles, 28-day
cycles . When symptoms come back, usually slow rise in intensity over 24
hours.
 Worm and parasite symptoms worsen for 2-3 days during the full moon
(this is when they are sexually most active and propagate – with
accompanying immune reaction). Patient feels relatively well during new
moon
Tip#4: location:
 mold sufferers feel better in dry climates
 Lyme sufferers cannot tolerate sunshine and often feel worse in dry/sunny
climates (avoid sun, get depressed in sun)
Tip#5: behavior/moods:
 worms in men: risk taking behavior. In women: docile behavior. In both:
short episodes of odd crazy schizoid behavior (hours).
 Neuro-Lyme: episodes of rages and depression. Same mood may last for a
few days or weeks, not minutes. Normal/nice episodes even in illest
person. Get easily infatuated in inappropriate ways
 Mold: often moods connected with dullness of brain. Can change in
minutes after exposure. Often chronically irritated as long as in mold
environment and immediately better, as soon as out
 Metal toxicity: affected patients drawn to the dark/evil. Man made:
artificial environments (prefer Disney land over trip to the ocean), rhythm
without real music"



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Post  ubraj on Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:59 pm

phoenix21,

Sorry, PM's are very bad for me. I quickly get overwhelmed by them but you can always ask questions in a thread and I try to respond when I can.

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Post  Paradox on Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:06 pm

rdkml wrote:Yes, I recommend the Cutler protocol.

I couldn't tell you about testing as the testing isn't entirely accurate anyway.

For anxiety, there is also niacinamide taken 500 mg multiple times per day.

There is also brain entrainment you can try. Maybe try the ones on youtube. It's kinda like PEMF frequencies or BT-7 (bio tuner) to help put your brain in the zone.

Thank you for all your replies Jdp. I haven't had a chance to digest everything and I didn't want you to think it went unread or unappreciated.

I do have a question regarding cutler and copper. I just found out that I have 36% free copper that is unbound to ceruloplasmin. This is a high percentage from what I've read; wilson's patients have about 40-80%. CS suspected I may have a copper issue (as did I) and I bought some copper sebacate per his recommendation.

Should I still do Cutler in light of this new info? Should I avoid vit C completely? Should I still take zinc and what form/how much? I know you are very knowledgeable when it comes to minerals. Copper as copper sebecate 22 mg which says 3mg of copper on the bottle (source naturals)

Thanks!

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Post  ubraj on Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:01 pm

I had to double check some things and reread some quotes from newport and cutler...

personally, I would rather take ALA to raise copper levels than take an actual copper supplement. You see, ALA reduces your liver from excreting copper from food and such.


Also, MSM will turn any oxidized/biounavailable/positively charged and thus toxic copper back to being bioavailable again. I personally used Opti-MSM.

However, MSM/sulfur has the downside in that it shouldn't be taken when you have a lot of mercury or lead.

In other words, if you have high mercury or lead, then you can take the copper homeopath in the beginning, then switch to Opti-MSM later.

The other questions I don't know but that's what I'd do. Keep in mind that I'm not that smart and my info may be completely wrong but this is what I'd personally do.

hope this helps

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