Pappilla Power vs Maliniak Method

hellwig, speaking of Know Thyself: why don't you ponder for a bit why you are such a mean-spirited little turd sometimes? Over half your posts here are nothing but snark and sniping. Take a look at why you are apparently so unhappy instead of trying to make other people as apparently miserable as you are. Try constructive criticism instead of just being snarky and mean.

That said, I had some harsh things to say about Leon's book, too...it's hard to read and I still haven't made it through all of it because of the formatting and repetition. I truly think it needs to be edited and revised, and that people would take it more seriously if it was.

But I don't regret paying for it, and really like what learning about his method provoked me into. Massaging my scalp feels good, and I consider the violet ray a really good investment. I use it on my hair and my face now. I think I am seeing new growth, my hair feels and behaves better now. I partially credit Maliniak and the violet ray for that.

BTW, Leon, I've said this before but maybe you missed it: I probably would have bought my VR from you except that it was not apparent to me from the picture on your website that it had the comb attachment I wanted, and no listing of the attachments that came with it. Presentation is half of marketing, so that should be fixed. That's the primary reason I went with another vendor.

Seriously guys, show some respect. You want everything easy, free and fast? I tell you one thing: that´s not happening. There is a difference between scientific and anecdotal evidence...Leon never claimed to be a scientist.

If you would have read his story aka his book, you wouldn´t be so respectless.

BACK TO TOPIC:

Hello Leon, i think i´ve found the shop you distribute the violet rays from. I got it yesterday. All in all i´d probably have paid an equal price if i had bought it from you (now after you reduced the price) I think if you want to eliminate all the haters and doubts i´d publish the source you buy your rays from and arrange a "special price" on your website. I bet they´d give you a discount if you buy big numbers....

One important question: After how many days/weeks/months can i expect new hair coming through? Do you have any feedback from the men who had success with your method? Thanks

Hello again gentlemen

Firstly, thanks to WILDMAN for his nice comments and for his rebuttal to that putrid poster who can't even insult me properly and misspells my name. I have controlled my LAWYER'S instincts to respond in kind to those type of people because I always try to remind myself that it is due to the FRUSTRATION and AGONY that most people have endured who have this HAIR LOSS problem and the failure of the medical community to solve it till now and their disappointment with all the SCAMS out there. So I cut them a LOT of "slack"...but I do have a limit and they will not be happy if they ever cross a line and push me to the point where I do respond in kind...it is just SO easy to make gratuitous comments and insulting personal attacks .

And by the way, I don't mind if my "picture" is next to the definition of "verbose" in the dictionary as long as it also eventually ends up being somewhere next to the definition of; the "verbose" person who finally invented the way TO STOP HAIR LOSS AND GROW NEW HAIR without DRUGS, LOTIONS or SURGERY..

What he calls "verbose" is actually a very necessary and detailed EXPLANATION off the entire LOGIC, science and reasoning behind the theory and treatment method so that people like him cannot peremptorily dismiss and so others can decide for themselves if the whole thing makes sense or not and if they want to give it a chance. Even with my repetition, there are still people who ask me questions that are all explained in the book. It needs to be repeated at times in order to be retained. It was the same in TRIAL LAW...so it is habit I have preserved here. And there are certain DEFINITIVE and correct ways to do the steps of my method that you need to read because if you don't do it right you won't get any results. " Massaging the GALEA", as he so tritely summarizes my book...is exactly wrong.

To clarify another mis-statement, only HALF of the book is dedicated to the HAIR LOSS issue and is a very fast read. The other half of the book is dedicated to the field of ALTERNATIVE SCIENCES for the treatment of catastrophic diseases and cancer in particular which you can ignore if you are not interested in that subject. I get lots and lots of feedback on that part of the book too...I am not alone in my interest on this subject. I also included references to my past experience and contributions that I made to the field of treating LEUKEMIA in our city's main children's hospital and to the article and theory I published about DUCTAL BREAST CANCER because I wanted people who were investigating the validity of the MALINIAK METHOD to understand that this is coming from someone who is not some "SCHMUCK" off the street and that perhaps this will encourage them a bit more to have a look at what I say about HAIR LOSS.

To WHODATHUNKIT, I also say thanks for your nice comments. The reason we don't sell the COMB attachment is because after much experimentation with many test subjects I determined that it was an UNNECESSARY extra expense for people and that the MUSHROOM electrode is the best general shape for most people and the MOST effective all patterns of HAIR LOSS. The COMB splits the electrical stream into too many parts and I find it is not as effective. We now ship TWO mushroom electrodes with each order.

To DADON I also say thanks for your nice comments. As for the FEEDBACK about the success with this MALINIAK METHOD, in addition to the testimonials on OUR website itself, which I deliberately keep to only a few because nobody believes either testimonials or BEFORE and AFTER pictures when they come from the inventor himself, it has evolved to the point now where over 20,000 sites refer to the MALINIAK METHOD and many of the members of some of these leading FORUMS on HAIR LOSS, after debating it with me for six months have now all tried it and already posted their preliminary results and success and they have only been on it for a short time. Other people we do not even know have posted "unsolicited" testimonials about their success with this method all over the Internet like HOBBES who started a MALINIAK METHOD thread on this very forum.

But most encouraging is all the PRIVATE feedback I get from people all around the world who do not want to have their stories made public and who tell me of their success and gush with gratitude for my having come up with this and for sharing it at such a low cost. It is the most satisfying feeling I have ever had. In all my years as a trial LAWYER I never had such a sense of satisfaction.

One young member from Vancouver insisted on reporting to me that he started seeing results in EXACTLY 3.4 weeks...not "around" 4 weeks ! He wanted to be very specific. This fast a response has happened in others too but it is NOT the rule and happens mainly for some very young men just starting to lose their hair and for whom this method is the fastest and most effective because it DISRUPTS the process of hair loss just as it is starting, at that "CRITICAL" stage where the SPIKE in testosterone levels and the very tight GALEA happen at the same time.

Those of you who have not yet tried the MALINIAK METHOD stop wasting your time in endless debate and deliberation. This thing is really working and it is the least expensive of all the other systems for treating HAIR LOSS, and unlike all of those other systems...it is based on a DETAILED and "verbose" explanation of WHY it works so that you understand the entire THEORY and will have the PATIENCE to stay with it.

GOOD LUCK to all who give it a try.

Sincerely,

LEON MALINIAK

Hi Guys,

This is LEON MALINIAK again and firstly, I want to thank all those people who are taking advantage of the FREE books offer.

I want everyone to get on the MALINIAK METHOD and find out directly for themselves what it is all about and NOT rely on partial, second-hand information which is usually completely WRONG. As for the machine, we still do NOT force anyone to buy it from us. Everyone can decide for themselves what they want to do about that. Like everything in life, different people will behave differently, and so we rely on the good conscience of those people who will decide to get the machine from us directly and not begrudge us making a few bucks and not waste time shopping around and who want to be secure in the knowledge that they are using the right machine.

I am not allowed to post on the other forum called HAIRLOSSTALK and I know some of you here are also members of that forum and I would like one of you to address and correct one such misguided comment on that forum which is a glaring example of what I am talking about and which might dissuade some people from adopting the MALINIAK METHOD.

It has to do with the "famous" NORDSTROM study of 1979 which is cited as proof that the GALEA is NOT involved in HAIR LOSS. My contention is that study was FATALLY FLAWED, and I will explain why. I prefer the much more recent 2011 study by BRIAN J. FREUND of the CROWN INSTITUTE in Pickering, Ontario which is the most comprehensive study on hair loss ever conducted and which concluded that the GALEA IS DEFINITELY involved in HAIR LOSS.

This issue is already addressed and responded to in the book but to get directly to it and save everyone time looking it up, and to demonstrate the type of mis-information I am trying to correct;

The 1979 NORDSTROM study reported that follicles transplanted from an area that was BALD, where the GALEA exists, to an area that was NOT bald and where there is no GALEA still did NOT grow hair. They also reported on the corollary of that observation that when follicles taken from an area which was NOT bald and transplanted to a BALD area, where there is a GALEA, they still continued to grow hair( they don't say for how long). This study is therefore cited sometimes as evidence that the GALEA is not involved in hair loss...and neither is BLOOD CIRCULATION !

The problem with that NORDSTROM study is that it was fatally FLAWED because it did NOT control for the MOST IMPORTANT variable, and that was; HOW MUCH ACCUMULATED DHT WAS IN EITHER OF THESE TRANSPLANTED FOLLICLES ?

My analysis of the fundamental FLAW in that study is to say that; The follicles transplanted from an area that was BALD, and where there is a GALEA to an area without a GALEA, did not grow hair again...because those follicles have been compromised for years and years and were still CLOGGED with DHT...so of course they will not grow new hair even when moved to an area without a GALEA; Similarly, follicles transplanted from an area which was not bald and where there is no GALEA to an area where there is a GALEA, still will continue to grow hair for a while...because they have NOT been compromised for years and years and are NOT still clogged with DHT.

That NORDSTROM study, by failing to consider and CONTROL the issue relating to the presence OR absence of the "accumulated DHT", in either of these transplants, and the incorrect conclusions they came to because of that failure, has prevented us from focusing on the GALEA as the proper MAIN target for treatment of HAIR LOSS for too many years. That is why all other systems have failed till now.

The MALINIAK METHOD, as confirmed by the findings of the more recent CROWN INSTITUTE study, addresses and TARGETS the GALEA as the MAIN culprit IN TRIGGERING the sequence of events which lead to HAIR LOSS and MPB and anyone with this problem should start doing it as soon as possible...the YOUNGER you are the better the outlook.

So, please ONE of you, if you don't mind, please pass on this critique of the NORDSTROM study on that other forum.

Sincerely,

LEON MALINIAK

I am not allowed to post on the other forum called HAIRLOSSTALK and I know some of you here are also members of that forum and I would like one of you to address and correct one such misguided comment on that forum which is a glaring example of what I am talking about and which might dissuade some people from adopting the MALINIAK METHOD.

Leon, that sounds like you are asking IH forum members here to "troll" HLT for you. Terrible, terrible request, and totally undermines your credibility (i.e., we are now thinking back to all the new members who "spontaneously" appeared here to defend your method when the big dust-up was going on a few months back).

If people don't want to try your method and don't buy your explanation, then IMO it's their loss (no pun in intended). I like your method but frankly am a little taken aback by this request. Just suck it up and move on if they don't want you at HLT. Be a grown-up and don't try to suck others into forum fights. Lord knows they occur spontaneously enough on their own.

Hi everyone and to whodathunkit

I reject completely your comment that it "attacks my credibility" when I ask someone to CLARIFY an academic issue and correct a horrible FACTUAL mis-statement on a forum that I am not allowed to post on. These forums are great and are supposed to be information sites for very motivated people who are doing research themselves trying to find a solution for a problem which the MAINSTREAM MEDICAL COMMUNITY has FAILED miserably to solve forever, and it is very uncivilized and unproductive when certain people make gratuitous, unfounded and un-researched remarks which may dissuade other people from fairly examining an alternative theoretical science...and it is therefore essential to give people the truth.

This is in no way "trolling" on my part at all but an exercise in trying to make a vital clarification about the SUBSTANCE of a scientific issue, and in fact, members of that other forum have already responded and clarified the issue I was referring to in a way which is even more detailed than what I could have hoped for because they HAVE READ my book and they HAVE TRIED my MALINIAK METHOD and they agree that it makes sense and they see reports and testimonials THAT IT REALLY WORKS.

It is these nay-sayers who are " trolling" because they make unfounded, purely negative "personal" comments without any study, REFERENCE to, or knowledge about the merits of what is being discussed. Only a very few of these negative "trolls" exist and the other members have already told those guys off themselves and asked them to LEAVE the forum because they are just negative, negative negative and offer nothing productive, while everyone else is sincerely and FAIRLY trying to investigate the merits of alternative sciences and solutions, like the MALINIAK METHOD.

All these back and forth "politics", which have nothing to do with the evaluation of the MERITS or SUBSTANCE of the topic under debate, but are merely gratuitous personal attacks, are a total waste of everyone's time and it probably paralyzes some people and dissuades them from examining something FAIRLY which may finally help them with their HAIR LOSS and is therefore a great disservice to the legitimate process of enlightenment and learning.

If someone focuses on the actual substance of an issue and makes civilized and informed comments which are negative or offers different opinions, that is perfectly fine, but to make comments and critiques WITHOUT referring to the SUBSTANCE of the issue and just "generally" making defamatory personal comments is not a legitimate form of debate and a waste of everyone's time. It would be SO,SO easy for me to engage in that same type of personal attack, even with people who are "anonymous", but I will not engage in that sort of useless exercise.

It's very simple; people who do not like the LOGIC of this MALINIAK METHOD and who are not impressed with the anecdotal and quasi-scientific EVIDENCE of it's effectiveness...PLEASE...DO NOT DO IT...keep using the useless existing drugs.

The MALINIAK METHOD uses NO DRUGS...NO LOTIONS...NO SURGERY.

A class action suit has been launched in the UNITED STATES and on CANADA against one of the leading manufacturers of a well known DHT inhibitor drug because of all of the negative side-effects people have experienced....DUH !

So, those of you reading these posts who have not made up your minds yet...check out the MALINIAK METHOD yourselves and don't rely on second hand information. The book is FREE for a limited time...so get it now and see if you like the reasoning of it by going to; WWW.BORNAGAINHAIR.COM

I stay very PRO-ACTIVE with all of our members on this voyage of discovery and I help them every step of the way. I do not abandon anyone.

Sincerely,

LEON MALINIAK

I tend to agree with almost everything leonmal has put into that book.

My research and personal observations also point to the galea as being the main culprit in MPB.

I also believe in peroxide therapy, as I've actually bought a bulk supply of 35% food grade for my day, who has emphysema, and he had some great results using it.

Also the rife machine recommendation; I have personally seen a close friend almost completely healed of a terminal case of Lyme, using only the rife machine and no drugs.

This "violet ray" makes me wonder if anyone has ever done Kirlian Photographography on androgenic alopecia scalps and compared them to Kirlian Photography on non androgenic scalps. See if there's a difference in the bio-eneregetics in some way. I can only imagine that there would be. I don't know what this would suggest in terms of what we could do about it, though it was be interesting.

One thing that is throwing up some red flags is the way Malianak presents himself. The use of excessive and spurious idosyncratic formatting is pretty common among internet and written word charlatans and crack pot theorist. If the ideas are sound then the formatting shouldn't be necessary, though in itself this can't be used to discredit a theory. Though there seems to be something to the glia muscle tightness. How does this compare to something like tom haggarty's scalp exercises?

Hi guys and to LAWOFTHELMA

To address your academic question first, the scalp exercises in the SKULL EXPANSION theory of HAGGERTY are very different than the massage techniques associated with the MALINIAK METHOD. We physically massage all the muscles around the perimeter of the head which are pulling on the GALEA and making it tight and choking off the blood supply instead of just using scalp "exercises" to move the scalp. So, in the MALINIAK METHOD we massage completely different areas of the scalp and we do it in a very different way.

Also, the SKULL EXPANSION system is not based on the revival of the use of the violet ray device invented by NIKOLA TESLA to stimulate dormant follicles into producing hair again, which is the second, and very important part of the MALINIAK METHOD. Others have also advocated the use of the violet ray device but nobody had previously combined these TWO techniques together and nobody provided a new background theory for how they were related and how they interacted with the issue of the involvement of DHT...which I still blame as the actual "killer" of follicles, consistent with the conventional wisdom, but which I give a "secondary" role to.

To me, the "tight" GALEA is what triggers the whole sequence of events leading to hair loss.

But we must acknowledge that many people have reported that they have seen results from those SKULL EXPANSION methods and HAGGERTY should be credited and congratulated for making a significant contribution to the advancement of this field of hair loss and MPB. He was trying to find an explanation and a solution, just like many of us are. We must keep building on the prior work of people like him and others until we have an effective system which works for all people and we are justified in trying to do this ourselves because the mainstream medical community has failed miserably to solve this problem until now.

Many people have asked what connection there is between the MALINIAK METHOD and the SKULL EXPANSION theory of hair loss and I have explained that, in my opinion, this condition of an enlarged skull is too rare to explain the epidemic of hair loss and MPB, but that it is otherwise totally consistent with the conclusions of the MALINIAK METHOD because the expansion of the skull could definitely be ONE of the ways that the GALEA becomes "tight" and stretched but it is not the MAIN reason.

Again, in my opinion, the large number of cases of hair loss and MPB has to be due to a more "universal" type of condition and I, and many others, attribute this to a to a very tight GALEA, probably due to a genetic pre-disposition. This is at times complicated and aggravated by STRESS which, in very young men, when it happens at the SAME TIME as the peak production of testosterone, these two factors acting together cause the most dramatic and rapid cases of hair loss and MPB. Other men, without these two things happening at the same time, lose their hair more slowly over time. Of course some men never lose their hair...I hate those guys...because they never have these TWO things happening at the same time.

DHT only becomes a problem in causing hair loss when it becomes OVER-PRODUCED and ACCUMULATES in the follicles due to a reduction in the blood flow and therefore, a reduction in the OXYGEN levels...all caused by the tight GALEA. This is now SETTLED SCIENCE as far as I am concerned because it was proven in the most exhaustive scientific study ever on hair loss conducted by DR. BRIAN J. FREUND of the CROWN INSTITUTE in Pickering, Ontario published in December 2010, one year AFTER my first book and which I refer to on the website and in my book.

As for the comments about my use of extensive "formatting", you are entitled to your opinion, but please do not make any connection between that and the validity or merits of the the SUBSTANCE of what we are discussing in the MALINIAK METHOD because one thing has nothing to do with the other. This is a matter of personal taste and writing STYLE and in thirty years of drafting forty page LEGAL PROCEEDINGS , trial notes and research papers I have relied upon this type of "formatting" to draw attention to important words and issues and it has been very effective.

A very long document with only one unchanging color and one unchanging font is a SEA OF BLACK and is very boring, and it is difficult to get peoples' attention and it is impossible to get them to focus on your important arguments or to enable them to EASILY find these points again if they want to...so I will continue to use this writing style.

Sincerely,

LEON MALINIAK

thanks for addressing both questions.

What the hell is this 'preferred manufacturer', in Leon Maliniak's book? Why cant he simple tell, go and buy this machine. He is giving free ebooks. So that means he churning a lot of money off these machines. Simply selling a 100 dollar thing for 500 dollars. His book and site says; 'buy the proper electrical stimulator' or you wont get the results'. Can someone explain whats this proper stimulator and what makes others bad machines?
Thanks,
Ricky

If it's WRITTEN like THIS it doesnt require an EXPLAINATION!

I thought Maliniak would explain himself, what makes his device ''the top quality machine'' I would really like to hear or see the details regarding the difference between the machines

Whodathunkit, I don't think anyone would begrudge paying for anything, if it proves to be valuable. I certainly don't see the value in attacking one person's method or program, simply because they don't like their terms. You seem to have been experimenting with different manual methods including Maliniak. Are you seeing further progress since your last posts?

whodathunkit wrote:hellwig, speaking of Know Thyself: why don't you ponder for a bit why you are such a mean-spirited little turd sometimes? Over half your posts here are nothing but snark and sniping. Take a look at why you are apparently so unhappy instead of trying to make other people as apparently miserable as you are. Try constructive criticism instead of just being snarky and mean.

That said, I had some harsh things to say about Leon's book, too...it's hard to read and I still haven't made it through all of it because of the formatting and repetition. I truly think it needs to be edited and revised, and that people would take it more seriously if it was.

But I don't regret paying for it, and really like what learning about his method provoked me into. Massaging my scalp feels good, and I consider the violet ray a really good investment. I use it on my hair and my face now. I think I am seeing new growth, my hair feels and behaves better now. I partially credit Maliniak and the violet ray for that.

BTW, Leon, I've said this before but maybe you missed it: I probably would have bought my VR from you except that it was not apparent to me from the picture on your website that it had the comb attachment I wanted, and no listing of the attachments that came with it. Presentation is half of marketing, so that should be fixed. That's the primary reason I went with another vendor.

wildman said:

You seem to have been experimenting with different manual methods including Maliniak. Are you seeing further progress since your last posts?

wildman—

Yes, I think I am seeing regrowth. Or at least, I was. I didn't want to jinx things by bragging, and ideally I'll have decent pictures to show.

I was seeing less hair in the drain, and my hair had more body, looked remarkably better, etc. The thin spots on my vertex were covered much better.

However, that was before my regimen went to shit. My job has been pretty stressful lately, and I let it get to me. I’ve been depressed and undisciplined. I’ve only been doing the manual methods a couple-three times per week, and my diet has taken a big hit. It’s been going on for a couple months now, and I think I’m starting to see it in my hair. Last couple showers there’s been more hair in the drain, and it doesn’t seem to have as much body the last couple of weeks. Coverage is still good, but if I let things continue I could probably lose some ground there. I’m chalking it up to an undesirable stress-induced increase in cortisol, esp. at night. Things are still much better than they were this time last year, but even my sleep has taken a hit from the stress. And no matter how much circulation you have, if your cortisol is too high, your diet isn’t good, etc., it’s going to negatively impact your hair.

Which is unfortunate, but oh well. I’m getting ready to try, try again. Never say die!

BTW, in case you (or anyone) is interested…I’m dropping the Papillapower method, at least for a while. My hair is past my shoulders, and I think it’s too long for the benefits (increased circulation) to outweigh the disadvantages (tangling and breakage). The woman who cuts my hair started noticing an increase in breakage around the time I started doing the manual methods, and since Papi’s technique tangles my hair pretty badly, I’m chalking it up to that. I’m still going to do Maliniak, but I’m replacing Papi method with something called “scritching”.

“Scritchers” are small, very fine-toothed combs made of sheep- or ox-horn. “Scritching” is running this comb across your scalp in a scratching/scratching motion. I first heard about it on brushing lady blog; she advocates it to increase circulation. It feels fantastic, esp. when coupled with the oil that recommended on longhairs.com/hairgasm.com. My scalp tingles royally when I get done. I really, really like it, and I think this technique and the Longhairs product line will add more to my regimen than Papi’s method.

Plus, gotta say, the horn combs are high-quality merchandise. I’m now of the opinion that everyone who values their hair needs one of the regular-sized combs, even if they don’t want to “scritch”. I have two sheep’s horn scritchers and a regular sized comb made of ox-horn. The combs don’t carry any static at all, and they just feel different in your hair. Only downside is they can’t be wet or used on wet hair.