Update on my Situation

So I decided I'd update again just to share my experience. Unfortunately it's not good and I honestly believe a lot of my time and money has been wasted on trying to find a natural cure for my hair loss.

I went to brush my hair there and had over 100 hairs in the sink. I'm 22 and this is extremely distressing to the point where it's given me an anxiety disorder. Everything is going well for me a part from my hair loss. At 22 it just seems unfair and has made me feel overly insecure and depressed. The constant anxiety over my hair loss has taken over my life and I've missed out on a lot of things because of this. I've tried everything recommended both in the natural route and on the mainstream route. Here's a list of what I've tried since 18.

Mainstream:
Finasteride - side effects were too much, including watery ejaculate, weak erections and mood swings. It did stop my hair loss for a very short period though.
Minoxidil - Bloated my face, caused my face to turn red. Possibly helped.
Ketoconazole - I still use this today, though it seems to have no effect on my hair.
Spironolactone - I used to rub this on my scalp, dangerous drug. I remember having palpitations using this.

Alternative Treatments:
Iodine - The most recommended supplement on this forum seemed to be working for me the day I used it first. I remember feeling my inflammation subside almost immediately. My hair loss seemed to slow down over the next 3-4 days. Unfortunately I came down with some more side effects which rival finasteride in their intensity. The second day my throat began to hurt, I was told by the alternative forums that this was Bromide being "pulled out" by alternative forums and told I was damaging my thyroid by mainstream forums. I continued on because my inflammation seemed to have subsided but I was plagued with palpitations and irregular heartbeats which made me believe the mainstream forums were right. Now I find it hard to take even half a drop of Iodine or I start having palpitations and lightheadedness. I've never been given an explanation for these side effects just told it was a part of the process. Yet the mainstream forums would tell me that I'm damaging my thyroid with the extra Iodine. I find it hard to believe that Iodine cures both Hyper,Hypo,Hashis and graves disease but this is what I was told by the alternative forums so I just went along with it. Maybe I have Hashimotos or graves disease and Iodine doesn't work for these methods?. I don't know I'm not a doctor.

By the way I took the companion nutrients and did the salt flushes.

ACV/Baking Soda/Olive Oil/CO Oil/Tea Tree Oil...
All of these seemed to calm inflammation but to no where near where it could help with hair loss. My scalp would still be inflammed a few hours later..

Ortho Nutrition Line
I used all the supplements for a prolonged period, nothing changed at all except for my bank balance. Cucurmin gave me extreme diarrhea and fatigue and the other supplements made no difference. My inflammation seemed to stay constant throughout.

Heavy Metal Detox
Took MCP and Humifuvlate for a prolonged period, no change in inflammation or over all well being.

I've tried a lot of other things too but I can't even remember them. For me and other young premature sufferers we have a very intense burning sensation where the scalp is inflamed. It's a great indicator on whether something is working or not. The only time I have been free from this sensation is for a short period after a shower, during the use of finasteride, a short period (3 days) on Iodine and when I'm consuming alcohol (completely no inflammation).

It seems that whatever is happening there is nothing I can do about it. I've tried multiple diets excluding all the "bad" food groups and inflammation stays consistent throughout. My guess is the I am just programmed to loss my hair because it's very sensitive to DHT. Unless I can stop the conversion of Testosterone to DHT in my scalp and therefore stop the inflammation and sebum which is a result of that process then I'm losing my hair. It's taking an extreme mental toll on me and I don't know what to do.

It's important to note that when someone gets a reaction like this - The opposite of what someone would normally expect, they typically have either low stomach acid (causes an allergy to almost everything) or a basic food allergy. Therefore, nothing you do will work unless the most fundamental problem is first corrected.

CausticSymmetry wrote:It's important to note that when someone gets a reaction like this - The opposite of what someone would normally expect, they typically have either low stomach acid (causes an allergy to almost everything) or a basic food allergy. Therefore, nothing you do will work unless the most fundamental problem is first corrected.

A reaction like what?. As in the reaction to Iodine?. I'd find it unlikely that low stomach acid could cause this?.

If you're talking about the other treatments, I also fail to see how low stomach acid could cause this?.

Here's more info to help you decide if this is a factor for you:

http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=13388

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/1762722-stomach-acid-is-essential-for-your-health

okay..

I'm sorry to hear this man, what type of loss? Diffuse or classic MPB?

have you tried oil treatments, or herbal extract treatments, or other topicals (zix, etc)?

what is the longest you were on any one treatment.

schpiloch123 wrote:I'm sorry to hear this man, what type of loss? Diffuse or classic MPB?

Only the nape of my neck seems to be staying. It's MPB, the crown and temples are going the quickest then the sides.

LawOfThelema wrote:have you tried oil treatments, or herbal extract treatments, or other topicals (zix, etc)?

what is the longest you were on any one treatment.

I've tried Olive, Tea Tree and various others. It's pretty clear to me when a treatment is working. In premature sufferers you have a lot of inflammation (Itching/burning/pain) which accompanies the rapid loss. It's a clear indicator of whether a treatment is working or not. Most treatments I have used topically last no longer than 3-4 weeks. If I see a reduction in inflammation I tend to use them longer. Most of the topical treatments only help the inflammation subside for a short period. It's hormones causing the problem, topical treatments aren't a cure they're just a fix to aid regrowth and calm inflammation.

For example, I constantly plagued with inflammation. Finasteride stopped my hair loss, first thing I noticed was a reduction in inflammation. Then the hair became healthier and the texture changed. First thing I noticed with Iodine was a reduction in inflammation, but as I stated above it caused a host of other symptoms. So I had to stop using it. Even a drop will cause palpitations.

I should also mention that my hair becomes extremely greasy after just a day. I understand that in MPB the sebum glands are exaggerated through the process. But if I don't wash my hair daily them it becomes a mess within hours.

Same situation here. But I'm more of a diffuse thinner. My scalp and hair are insanely oily if I don't wash my hair daily. I could not just wake up in the morning and go about the day without washing or I'd literally look just gross by the end of the day. I can recall when my hair was thinning the fastest, I would literally get deposits of sebum on my scalp. They were palpable. I could feel them in the morning when I woke up. It always accompanies itching and irritation, almost like my scalp hurt. This has completely subsided in the past year or so and my hairloss seems to not be going as quickly, kind of plateaued, although it hasn't halted. Topical iodine was a big one for me in stopping that pink, inflamed scalp. But I'm sort of getting to a point where I'm comfortable with losing my hair, even though I'm only 24. For a long time I had an anxiety problem about it. There were days I wouldn't leave the house, especially if it was really windy or sunny outside because it just made the problem more obvious. I hate to think of the opportunities I missed during those years, especially given that I was in college. Lessons learned. But for some reason I have just gotten much more comfortable with it, maybe it was just a matter of time, like the grieving process (sounds cheesy but I'm being serious, its an identity crisis) to become acclimated with it. My stress levels about it have gone down immensely, almost gone. There are still some situations I avoid, fuck the water brah . But I'm pretty reserved with the fact I'm just going to shave it, and it doesn't really scare me that much anymore. That's why I've been so focused on just getting healthy, keeping my body up and my skin healthy. Maximize the other assets. That's really the only reasons I'm still on the forum, because its a health mecca. To be honest, we sufferers moonlight hairloss and our belief system about it and how he world views us are very skewed. I used to believe having hair loss just made me inferior, period. I know it doesn't and thats not how the world works either. I was justifying why I was so scared of it. People only respond negatively to physical flaws if you project severe insecurity about it. Insecurity is a nonverbal that makes people uncomfortable in your presence. When you are comfortable with yourself, people are comfortable too. You've seen it before, people with blatant physical flaws who don't get the negative responses you'd expect. It's about your attitude and the energy you project. Stop giving a fuck and hiding, and everyone will embrace it too. Believe it or not, my hair situation hasn't improved one bit (other than slowing down), and despite that I've gotten way more attention from females lately than I ever did when I was constantly worried about it. Nothing else has changed, other than my attitude, and some fat loss/muscle gain, so more reason to get healthy and just stop giving a fuck.

anthonyspencer54 wrote:But I'm pretty reserved with the fact I'm just going to shave it, and it doesn't really scare me that much anymore. That's why I've been so focused on just getting healthy, keeping my body up and my skin healthy. Maximize the other assets. That's really the only reasons I'm still on the forum, because its a health mecca. To be honest, we sufferers moonlight hairloss and our belief system about it and how he world views us are very skewed. I used to believe having hair loss just made me inferior, period. I know it doesn't and thats not how the world works either. I was justifying why I was so scared of it. People only respond negatively to physical flaws if you project severe insecurity about it. Insecurity is a nonverbal that makes people uncomfortable in your presence. When you are comfortable with yourself, people are comfortable too. You've seen it before, people with blatant physical flaws who don't get the negative responses you'd expect. It's about your attitude and the energy you project. Stop giving a fuck and hiding, and everyone will embrace it too. Believe it or not, my hair situation hasn't improved one bit (other than slowing down), and despite that I've gotten way more attention from females lately than I ever did when I was constantly worried about it. Nothing else has changed, other than my attitude, and some fat loss/muscle gain, so more reason to get healthy and just stop giving a fuck.

Although im not in the same boat as you, this was Beautifully said....
Its not about hair, its about your own mind...

Hahaha. It's over. It's all over.

Perfect example of the complex guys get about their hair. The thing is, its funny to me now. But a year ago I would have agreed with it completely.

anthonyspencer54 wrote:Hahaha. It's over. It's all over.

Perfect example of the complex guys get about their hair. The thing is, its funny to me now. But a year ago I would have agreed with it completely.

Agreed, its funny as hell though because of that.

Did you go to a doctor for blood test to see what other abnormalities may be causing less benefits for you?

A few questions:

What diets have you tried?

Do you get plenty of sunshine and/or have you had your Vit D levels tested?

Are you doing/taking anything to manage your high stress levels?

Also, it's interesting that you constantly have inflammation and high sebum levels. Do you have problems with acne as well? I hope you are not easting/drinking pasteurized dairy.