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My temples are producing new hair

Post  Xenon on Fri May 10, 2013 2:58 pm

Yes, it's definite - new hair is growing. The other day i shaved my hair short with the clippers and noticed a new row of terminal hairs on both temples, and as I looked at my temples under the light at a certain angle i can see lots of vellous hairs about to turn terminal. I also see some isolated vellous hairs regrowing. I know for certain that these hairs were not there before.

I concluded many months ago that a build up of sebum was a major culprit in causing my hairline to recede. The reasons are too numerous to go into now, but for those of you who are interested, please refer back to my earlier posts on sebum and inflammation.

Anyway, when i reached this conclusion that sebum was the culprit, i decided to start washing my hair with soap, as i found that soap completely removes surplus sebum (and also inflammatory sodium chloride residue from sweat), whereas i found that shampoo still left a greasy residue on my scalp. I have been doing this twice per day for several months, and I am certain that this has been helping my hair regrow.

There are other things I've been doing, such as not sleeping on my temples or crown; trying not to expose my scalp to extremes of temperatures; and I also gave up drinking alcohol before christmas, so may be this has also helped in terms of liver function.

I am now going to keep a photo journal to keep note of anymore future progress, and i'll keep you all posted.

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Post  SlowMoe on Fri May 10, 2013 3:29 pm

Xenon wrote:Yes, it's definite - new hair is growing. The other day i shaved my hair short with the clippers and noticed a new row of terminal hairs on both temples, and as I looked at my temples under the light at a certain angle i can see lots of vellous hairs about to turn terminal. I also see some isolated vellous hairs regrowing. I know for certain that these hairs were not there before.

I concluded many months ago that a build up of sebum was a major culprit in causing my hairline to recede. The reasons are too numerous to go into now, but for those of you who are interested, please refer back to my earlier posts on sebum and inflammation.

Anyway, when i reached this conclusion that sebum was the culprit, i decided to start washing my hair with soap, as i found that soap completely removes surplus sebum (and also inflammatory sodium chloride residue from sweat), whereas i found that shampoo still left a greasy residue on my scalp. I have been doing this twice per day for several months, and I am certain that this has been helping my hair regrow.

There are other things I've been doing, such as not sleeping on my temples or crown; trying not to expose my scalp to extremes of temperatures; and I also gave up drinking alcohol before christmas, so may be this has also helped in terms of liver function.

I am now going to keep a photo journal to keep note of anymore future progress, and i'll keep you all posted.

Your pillow-hairloss theory intrigues me..I am going to check my oxygen levels when laying down to see if the pillow has a negative effect on bloodflow up there, when I get my oximeter that is.

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Re: My temples are producing new hair

Post  Xenon on Fri May 10, 2013 4:09 pm

Your pillow-hairloss theory intrigues me..I am going to check my oxygen levels when laying down to see if the pillow has a negative effect on bloodflow up there, when I get my oximeter that is.

Well, I've been sleeping on the galea muscles for over a year, while allowing the temples to hang over the pillow edge, but I noticed no immediate regrowth from that method alone. It's since I've been combining this with keeping my scalp sebum / sodium chloride free, that I have noticed some regrowth.

I mean, it sounds overly simplistic that using soap to remove excess sebum can help to reverse hairloss, but evidently and very surprisingly, this seems to be the case.

As mentioned in the previous post, I noticed that my scalp was still quite greasy after using regular shampoo, this is why i switched to using soap, as it completely removed the sebum.

I don't want to keep repeating myself, but I think that too much heat becoming trapped in the scalp (due to sebum blocking sweat glands) causes inflammation. From what i've read, if cell temperature rises beyond 98F, it has to cool down otherwise inflammation will occur. The same inflammatory process happens if the cell's temp drop beneath 98F and cannot warm up, cue frostbite as an extreme example of inflammation.

Also, overproduction of sebum may also cause inflammation due to oleic acids building up inside the follicle. So this is another reason to keep the scalp clean.

And lastly, i think cutting down on jerkin the gherkin has helped lower DHT levels. Elevated DHT causes overproduction of sebum within the scalp. I mentioned previously that abstaining for 6 months caused some regrowth, but it's success alone was limited, so no need to give up... just cut down a little more than usual.

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Post  bocor on Fri May 10, 2013 4:56 pm

Please indicate what kind of soap you are using there are lots of products called soap but are different ingredients I'm using dr Bromberg Castile soap which are a bunch of oils with potassium hydroxide I'm interested in what kind of soap specifically removes sebum?

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Re: My temples are producing new hair

Post  Duketronix on Fri May 10, 2013 5:05 pm

I've mentioned it before but about a year ago I started using the shampoos from harigasm.com and they have kept my hair the cleanest and shiniest it has ever been. The stuff seems expensive but a large bottle lasts me most of a year since a little goes a LONG way. My. girlfriend has converted to using it to. I used to also have greasier hair but diet changes and this shampoo ahve made that a non issue for me.

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Re: My temples are producing new hair

Post  Xenon on Fri May 10, 2013 7:33 pm

bocor wrote:Please indicate what kind of soap you are using there are lots of products called soap but are different ingredients I'm using dr Bromberg Castile soap which are a bunch of oils with potassium hydroxide I'm interested in what kind of soap specifically removes sebum?

I don't use any special brand, nor have I paid specific attention to the soap I've been using over the last few months. I just find that a bar of soap cuts through grease / sebum much more effectively than shampoo. For instance, after washing my scalp with soap, it becomes squeaky clean to the touch, whereas after a wash with shampoo I can still feel the grease when i touch it.

So, due to the fact that shampoo doesn't remove sebum as effectively as soap, I assume that there is a continual build up of the stuff, despite regular washing.


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Re: My temples are producing new hair

Post  jcreely123 on Sat May 11, 2013 3:35 am

Are you using any other products besides soap? This is great information. Most people have no idea how simply changing little habits can have such a dramatic affect. Thank you for sharing this.

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Re: My temples are producing new hair

Post  sanderson on Sat May 11, 2013 4:15 am

i can relate to the sleeping. i have been sleeping on my stomach, with my face facing the right side for nearly 22 years.. literally every night i slept the same way. my right temple is more receded than my left temple without a doubt, so i know there is truth to that. i also now only sleep on my back because of this incident.

congrats on the progress. i also notice less itching with less sebum. however, i notice increased sebum when i have been doing my scalp exercise so it's kinda funny how that works.

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Re: My temples are producing new hair

Post  TrueGround on Sat May 11, 2013 4:25 am

sanderson wrote:i can relate to the sleeping. i have been sleeping on my stomach, with my face facing the right side for nearly 22 years.. literally every night i slept the same way. my right temple is more receded than my left temple without a doubt, so i know there is truth to that. i also now only sleep on my back because of this incident.

congrats on the progress. i also notice less itching with less sebum. however, i notice increased sebum when i have been doing my scalp exercise so it's kinda funny how that works.

+1

Never thought this was a logical connection, but I'm receding a little more in my right temple and the hair behind my right ear is a decent amount more thin than the left.

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Post  hairisthickening on Sat May 11, 2013 10:01 am

If you can't sleep on your temples or crown then how do you sleep? What do you just sleep face down or something lol.

I will be honest. I only sleep on my temples and notice my default first position is on my right temple. Yep....and you guessed it....my right temple has worse recession. But how do I not know I am sleeping on my left temple more throughout the night? I toss and turn and basically have 2 positions. Both of them allow my forearm to sit right on my temple area.

I don't get how we can prevent this though. I dont want to start sleeping on my crown. It's very thick Smile

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Re: My temples are producing new hair

Post  Xenon on Sat May 11, 2013 10:08 am

jcreely123 wrote:Are you using any other products besides soap? This is great information. Most people have no idea how simply changing little habits can have such a dramatic affect. Thank you for sharing this.

No other products. Soaps are great for removing sweat, excess sebum and toxins. If you've ever tried washing smelly armpits with shampoo, you'll notice that your armpits still stink when you get out of the shower. As you're likely aware apocrine glands in the armpits produce oily sweat comprised of proteins and lipids, which bacteria feed on. If a regular shampoo doesn't remove all of these substances from the armpits, then nor will it remove them from the scalp.

one thing I'd caution people on when using soap: don't wash, rinse, repeat several times over, as it will leave the scalp feeling dry and tight. One or two washes per day should be adequate.

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Post  Xenon on Sat May 11, 2013 10:27 am

If you can't sleep on your temples or crown then how do you sleep? What do you just sleep face down or something lol.

If I sleep on my side, I allow the temples to hang over the pillow edge, so they aren't being compressed, and I sleep on the temporalis muscle. If I'm sleeping on my back, then I allow the crown to hang over the edge, and I sleep on the occipitalis muscles at the lower back of the head.



Notice the way hairloss never occurs where these muscles exist, yet it does occur where they do not, i.e., the galea region? I suspect that these muscles - in part - act as cushions to capillaries above them, and when we press our heads against the pillow during sleep, they prevent compression.

if you also look at the temples on the diagram, there is no musculature in the temple area, so I strongly suspect that the capillaries of the temples are being pressed against the hard bone mass of the skull during sleep and this exacerbates compression, as there is no protective cushioning from muscles. This IMO slows down circulation to the temple areas, causes a build up of toxins and makes the area more prone to inflammation.


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Post  Balthier on Sun May 12, 2013 4:38 am

I believe you and so do my temples but how do normal people who sleep however they want not have this happen is it because their circulation is that much better that it becomes a non issue?

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Post  sanderson on Sun May 12, 2013 6:29 am

xenon, how would washing your hair with soap cause your hairline to regrow? what i'm saying is, if you all ready have no hair there, are you saying simply washing the skin will cause hair to grow through? or are you saying these are areas that have thinned out, but havent been completely balded out?

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Post  Xenon on Sun May 12, 2013 3:56 pm

Balthier wrote:I believe you and so do my temples but how do normal people who sleep however they want not have this happen is it because their circulation is that much better that it becomes a non issue?

I'd say that this was the case. For instance, men who have an expanded skull or tight galea / high DHT are definitely susceptible to pillow compression to the temples, whereas guys with small craniums, looser scalps, lower DHT would less likely be affected by pillow compression issues.

Once again, I have to stress, that I do not cite one particular factor as the cause of MPB. if it was just down to one issue, then it would be an easily curable condition. i try to identify as many factors as possible and set about negating them from the equation.

For instance, through careful observation, i have been able to identify a number of inflammatory pathways. One of them being overproduction of sebum. It is however, particularly difficult to understand precisely why sebum is causing an inflammatory reaction, but through studying, i have come up with a number of possible explanations. All that really matters is, i know in my own individual case, that sebum has been causing inflammation, so I set about making sure it did not build up upon my scalp.

i noticed something quite interesting which likely indicates high sebum production in the scalp. If ever I've rested my temples against a window, i.e., if I've been on a bus or train, I notice a patch of grease left upon the window. whereas if I put my hand on the window, there will be no greasy residue left behind. This layer of sebum would cover sweat glands and prevent both release of toxins, as well as hinder the scalp from cooling. Both issues cause heightened inflammation.



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