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Post  rofl on Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:35 pm

I read through that entire study, including the figures, and i dont believe it proves there was 95% hair recovery.

the pictures in figure 4 are very misleading. it attempt to convince us they are the same people, by calling them before and after. u really have to see it to see wat i mean. the results are very confusing.

i suggest u all read through it carefully before wasting ur time.





Detumescence Therapy of Human Scalp for Natural Hair Regrowth
H. Choy
The Hong Kong University, Hong Kong, China
*Corresponding author: H. Choy
The Hong Kong University
Hong Kong, China
Tel: + (852) 6024 5611
E-mail: henrychoya3@gmail.com

Received October 21, 2011; Accepted January 15, 2012; Published January 21, 2012

Citation: Choy H (2012) Detumescence Therapy of Human Scalp for Natural Hair Regrowth. J Clin Exp Dermatol Res 3:138. doi:10.4172/2155-9554.1000138

Copyright: © 2012 Choy H . This is an open-access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited.

Abstract

The root cause for hair loss problem on the human scalp has not been fully understood. It is the first time for this work to investigate the softness and thickness of the distinct localized regions in both non-bald and bald scalps on their effects to the natural hair regrowth for different people. The geometrical shape of each individual human head deviated from the skull bones was also compared and studied. In non-bald scalp regions, 1) each region has a uniform skin thickness and it is thin; 2) the skin is soft; 3) the human head is in flat shape. As for bald scalp regions, 1) each scalp region has a non-uniform skin thickness and it is thick; 2) the skin is hard; 3) the human head is in dome shape. A flat/close shape between the scalp and the skull bones, a thin skin thickness and a soft skin are demonstrated to the prerequisite conditions for natural hair regrowth. A good control of these key parameters by detumescence therapy on human scalp is found to be an effective and efficient approach for natural hair regrowth.

Introduction

The human body possesses amazing healing powers that numerous illnesses and injuries could be recovered. It should be noted that the human skin is the largest organ of the body. It has the amazing ability to constantly regenerate itself. Hair regrowth on the human scalp has also been an important research topic [1-3] in last decades due to a sharp increase in the population with baldness. However, no report has been found so far on an efficient treatment in baldness using the healing power of the human body and a concept of scalp in tension or compression for their effect to hair growth has not been examined in the literature.

Hair [4] is made up of dead cells that combine into thousands of strands. Each strand of hair contains thousands of dead cells. Hair is composed of strong structural protein called keratin. This is the same kind of protein that makes up the nails and the outer layer of skin.

Each strand of hair consists of three layers shown in figure 1a. Firstly, there is an innermost layer or medulla which is only present in large thick hairs. Secondly, the middle layer is known as the cortex. The cortex provides strength and both the color and the texture of hair. Thirdly, the outermost layer is known as the cuticle. The cuticle is thin and colorless and serves as a protector of the cortex.

Figure 1: Hair root structure and bald pattern. (a) Cross section of a hair follicle, and (b) Male Pattern Baldness for Genetic Basis [Courtesy of [5]].

Structure of the hair root

Below the surface of the skin is the hair root, which is enclosed within a hair follicle. At the base of the hair follicle is the dermal papilla. The dermal papilla is fed by the bloodstream which carries nourishment to produce new hair. The dermal papilla is a structure very important to hair growth because it contains receptors for male hormones and androgens. Androgens regulate hair growth and in scalp hair. A lack of androgens may cause the hair follicle to get progressively smaller and the hairs to become finer in individuals who are genetically predisposed to this type of hair loss.

Many people believe genetic factors [5] are responsible for the appearance of baldhead in Figure 1b. As for the premature hair loss as one grows, it is believed to be due to hereditary, inadequate hair care, illness, accidents, etc. When the time flies, one had to live permanently with hair loss. With much advancement in hair technology, it seems the regrowth is of possibility.

Many approaches for overcoming the baldhead problems [6,7] are available such as Transplants, Drugs, Hair Pomades, Laser Therapy [8- 14] etc. However, no researcher could clearly state which method is the most effective one to employ since the knowledge is insufficient. Some methods have an inherent problem of the side effects while other methods could not help the hair completely regrow in the head.

Some study [15] has suggested the following:

Most premature hair loss cases could be attributed to over secretion of the hormone, dihydrotestosterone – which causes hair to thin and fall off with time, and is present in both male and female bodies and; and the lack of adequate nutrients to nourish the scalp in order to stimulate healthy natural hair growth. So, one of the most common and most effective treatments of hair loss are through oral drugs and herbal therapy [16,17].

However, this approach is costly [17] and may have different extent of side effect such as allergy and diarrhea.

This paper suggests the change of scalp thickness [18] and softness is the root cause for the hair loss or baldhead problem appeared in male androgenetic alopecia, female pattern hair loss and alopecia areata. It is well known that the shape of an egghead is always in dome shape. We suggest it appears to be a skin modification in structure at the molecular and macro levels by grease trapped in the hair follicle. The syndrome is the hardening/tigtening and thickening of skin. It can be viewed as a swelling of scalp skin. In this work, a detumescence therapy is suggested to be an approach for a gradual shrinking of a swelling in the human scalp so that the hair regrowth cycle can be restarted normally. The study is described as the next sections.

Materials and Methods

Assumption: The skin of the face and head is represented by a surface and discretized into a number of patches by a control of curve (polygons and points) as Figure 2a, 2b and 2c.

The author from IS department initiated this study. A test group of 100 people (52 males: 48 females) without baldness was compared with 100 people with baldness (50 males: 50 females) in Hong Kong during the year of 2003 and 2011. Their age is between 6~86 and the people are selected by random. Using block randomization, participants are therefore formed into groups that result in equal sample sizes. The specificity for race sample is not considered in this work. 100 people in each group have been used as a base. These people are sample representative of the general population as a case report study. A table with statistical characteristics of patients in each group has been included in terms of sex, age and % of loss hair.

The head shape lines, softness and hardness for each person were measured. 100 people with baldness have been undertaken a medical (detumescence) therapy by massaging daily such that their scalp is transformed from hard and thick to soft and thin and the head shape line is changed from domed (swelling) to flat (close to skull bone shape). Every day, the patient with baldhead problem required a morning and night massaging treatment for every discretized skin patch regions with duration of 20 minutes per session. The total treatment time took about 300 days. The category classification of head line shape deviated from real skull shape is mainly based on full dome (Case C), half dome (Case B) and flat (Case A) as depicted in figure 2d. Thermography is also taken as an illustration. The skin thickness and softness for each person are measured directly by a micrometer (Caliper Type Micrometers, Mitutoyo Series 143,343) and a durometer (Instron shore S1, ASTM D2240 type A) in figure 2e and tables 1 and 2.

In order to evaluate whether a patient is bald or non-bald, the following approach is adopted instead of trichometer method [19]. Refer to figure 2f, a ribbon is used to circularly bundle the hair in each discretized patch region for the patient. Each bundle of hair is to be measured by a thickness gauge (Peacock dial thickness, EG-1). The measured thickness (diameter of hair bundle) can indicate the quantity and density of the hair. If the patient does not have a patch region with a thickness less than L (a value meaured in healthy scalp patch region), he/she is defined as non-bald. Otherwise, the patient is regarded as bald.

For measuring the tensile strength of a healthy and unhealthy hair, a pressure gauge is used to measure the pressure until the breakage point in the hair (until it snaps). The potential bias of the methodology may be caused by the participants with secondary diseases (e.g. diabetes, multiple sclerosis and cancer). The internal and external validity has been referred to consort -2010 statement.

Figure 2: Head shape classification and measurement. (a) Golden ratio by Leonardo Da Vinci, (b) Surface defined by a number of patches, (c) Head skin is represented by surfaces, (d) The classification of full dome, half dome and flat head shape, (e) Measurement of skin thickness and hardness, and (f) Measurement of hair quantity and density.

Table 1: Non-bald group information.

Table 2: Bald group information.

Results and Discussion

In this work, there are three cases to be considered (Figure 3a) in the test group. Case 1: Head shape line is in a dome shape with high radius of curvature. Case 2: Head shape line is in a dome shape with a less radius of curvature. This head shape is obtained after flattening the head shape by massage with finger press daily. Case 3: the head shape is completely flattened into a straight line (i.e. close to the real skull bone shape). This head shape is obtained after flattening the head shape by massage with finger press daily and heavily. We did a statistical investigation about 100 peope (Table 3). For all people initially belongs to Case 1, they have no hair. The skin (scalp) is thick (18 mm~24 mm) and hard (Durometer scale A reading: ~100). It is suggested to be much grease trapped in the hair follicle blocking the nutrient. After receiving a daily massage of 150 days with finger press, their scalps have been transformed and belonged to Case 2. Their head skin was thinner (11 mm~17 mm) and softer (Durometer scale a reading: ~75). Some grease trapped in the hair follicle leaves the head. Some hair is found to regrow on these thinner and softer skin patch regions. After receiving a daily massage of another 150 days with a heavier finger press (Case 3), their head skins have become much thinner (4 mm~10 mm) and softer (Durometer scale A reading: ~50). Almost all grease trapped in their hair follicle leaves the head. The percentage difference between the bald and normal scalp thickness is used as a measure for the reduction in grease. Their hair for all people is found to be regrown naturally. From observation, over 90% hair recovery was also found to be regrown from the hair follicles for each bald person in this study. The hair density is observed to be the same as the non-bald region. The recovery time for hair regowth of each individual on alopecic areas is dependant on the time for the healing power rate (e.g. metabolism) of the scalp to obtain its original skin softness, hardness and radius of curvature after the massage approach. The above approach is regarded as a detunescence therapy of the human scalp for a gradual shrinking of the head scalp domeness.

Figure 3: The proposed detumescence therapy of human scalp and root cause for bald head. (a) Three cases for head shape, and (b) A demonstration using a phone book (as human scalp) illustrates tensile and compressive stresses due to bending; the top pages stretch apart (tension) and the bottom pages push together (compression).

Table 3: Skin modification in structure against percentage of hair loss.

The root cause for hair loss on scalp can be explained by the analogy concept that the greatest tensile and compressive stresses occur on the outer covers of a phone book during bending in figure 3b. The neutral axis or layer runs along the middle of the book between the arrows, as if it was the middle page in the phone book. Amazingly, this axis experiences zero stresses while bending. This head shape change movement from flat to dome is suggested to significantly block the nutrient from the blood stream to the scalp. Massage (Figure 4a) mentioned above is actually an act of kneading, rubbing and putting pressure on the skin with our fingers and hands. This can provide many benefits for the body. The biggest benefit to massage is an increase of blood circulation at the surface of the skin for the hair follicles, increase relaxation, decrease stress, improve the skin condition (thickness, softness and radius of headline curvature) of the scalp, and boost the strength of the hair roots. The kneading pressure applied by massage warms the skin and opens up blood vessels to increase flow and boost circulation. Increased circulation means that the cells of the hair follicle will receive more of the nutrients necessary to optimal hair growth function. The rubbing motion promotes relaxation and feels good, thus increasing the production of good chemicals that work to lower levels of stress hormone in the body. Lower stress levels allow our organs to function more efficiently, thus boosting our hair follicle’s ability to grow hair.

Figure 4: Hair regrowth treatment and result. (a) Massaging approach, (b) A treatment example and thermography on scalp and the recorded tensile strength of hair.

An example for a patient in the test group before and after treatment is shown in figure 4b (i) and (ii). It is obvious that the proposed detumescence therapy in terms of massaging is effective to transform the head scalp shape from full dome (stage 1) to half dome (stage 2), and then from half dome (stage 2) to flat (stage 3). A thermography on the patient is also taken in figure 4b (iii) and (iv) using an infrared camera (TH9100, NEC with a close-up lens, TH91-386). It demonstrates that the thinner and softer skin has better blood circulation [higher thermal profile temperature]. This indicates more nutrient is to be provided to the scalp or microcirculation improvement. As for the thicker and harder skin has poor blood circulation [lower thermal profile temperature], this implies less nutrient to be provided to the scalp. This can explain why the recorded tensile strength in figure 4b (v) for an unhealthy hair in bald region is less than that of the healthy hair in non bald region.

A polpulation of 100 bald people has adopted the proposed detumescence therapy (massaging) approach; the results demonstrated that all people could have their hair regrown naturally and healthily. The results were found to be significant (P<0.01) when α=0.01 level. Moreover, 100% bald people in the test group are mainly on the top regions of the head rather than the lateral regions. The applied pressure loading on the head during sleeping in bed (Figure 5) is believed to be a preventive measure for the bending/thickening/hardening of human scalps in daily growth.

Figure 5: Applied pressure during sleeping.

Conclusion

The skin thickness, skin softness and the shape between the scalp and skull bones have been paid in little attention. They are actually the critical parameters for avoiding the scalp in full tension and compression and provide the required blood nutrients. A good control of the parameters by detumescence therapy is demonstrated in this work to be an effective and efficient approach for natural hair regrowth on the scalp.

Acknowledgements

The author declares that he has no conflicts of interest to disclose.

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Post  Hairy Potter on Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:49 pm

Also going into my 3rd day of this - 20 mins does feel like a long time, but maybe it's just a matter of getting into a routine.

I'm just doing the morning session over coffee (I'm accustomed to having a coffee first thing in the morning before I get going). Then I shower, and afterwards do 5 min towel scrub, which I've decided to keep up with, and put MSM topical on scalp, and also have the MSM internal (± 8 grams). Then repeat at night time (which is admittedly a little easier).

Of course, we want to be doing something which is sustainable for the entire year - start / stop / start / stop is really not ideal, so I reckon those guys who have committed to a shorter period, which they know they can sustain, are doing the right thing.

I've also had the bruised sensation, but it'll pass. I'm gonna be moving house in a few days, but as soon as I've settled in a bit I'd like to start taking pics and maybe post them here every month or two for posterity :-)

Rofl, you could be right brother, but the only way we'll find out is by giving it a bash. I reckon blood flow is the biggest part of this, so of course my opinion is that anything that can increase that can only help. Thankfully there are those who are prepared to be the guinea pigs in this experiment - if it works, fine, if not, the rest will know not to bother with this :-)

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Post  . on Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:18 pm

Those trying this, are you finding being able to feel with your fingers beneficial?

With my CFS I doubt I can maintain such a strong massage. Someone in the brushing thread mentioned using a brush with wood instead of bristles. I'm thinking this could apply similar pressure without as much exertion, but am unsure about the lack of tactual sensation.

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Post  nzbalda on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:05 pm

@ rofl The picture may be misleading however the tables clearly state the difference in hair thickness between sides and top becomes the sameish after the period, now whether that means the sides fell out too...


Has anyone noticed a difference in the looseness of the scalp? mine has changed drastically over the week I've been doing this,good finger work out too

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Post  Hairy Potter on Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:17 am

nzbalda wrote:@ rofl The picture may be misleading however the tables clearly state the difference in hair thickness between sides and top becomes the sameish after the period, now whether that means the sides fell out too...


Has anyone noticed a difference in the looseness of the scalp? mine has changed drastically over the week I've been doing this,good finger work out too
I wouldn't exactly say my scalp is loose, but it's definitely taking less to loosen it up everyday. Some days are better than others in overall looseness.

Unim, I would assume that you could use a wooden brush to apply pressure, except there's less surface area on the teeth so it'd be more of a challenge to cover the whole scalp maybe? Have you thought about using one of those wooden massagers?

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Post  sizzlinghairs on Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:57 am

Ahhhhh so many aspects to manual now! lol

So which is ADVISED you guys think? Doing maliniak (aka massaging the sides around galea) or doing like this study and massaging balding areas for 20 min 2x/day?

What to do?

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Post  dudebro on Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:25 am

rofl wrote:I read through that entire study, including the figures, and i dont believe it proves there was 95% hair recovery.  

the pictures in figure 4 are very misleading.  it attempt to convince us they are the same people, by calling them before and after.  u really have to see it to see wat i mean.  the results are very confusing.

i suggest u all read through it carefully before wasting ur time.
rofl, if you dont believe it, well then its not going to work for you. I think you're actually wasting more time trying to disprove it, especially considering you've never tried it... Not to call you at or anything but you should try to keep more of an open mind: negativity only sucks the positive around you.

And even IF it doesn't work, at least no one is losing money over it, unlike a hundred other options. 40min a day is nothing since most people are doing something else while massaging anyways.

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Post  Hairy Potter on Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:20 am

sizzlinghairs wrote:Ahhhhh so many aspects to manual now! lol

So which is ADVISED you guys think? Doing maliniak (aka massaging the sides around galea) or doing like this study and massaging balding areas for 20 min 2x/day?

What to do?
Ya, a bit too much choice maybe. IMHO, if you're doing Leon's method you should probably just do it the way he advises.

To my way of thinking this is the poor man's violet ray (not that everyone doing this is poor, or everyone using violet ray is rich - just saying :-). They do the same thing, but in different ways: restore blood flow and awaken dormant papillae / follicles.

I haven't done much research into skull shape and whether or not it can actually change - to me, it doesn't seem plausible that 20 mins of pressure twice a day is going to change your skull shape. Maybe someone can put me straight on how that could happen? Aren't we talking about bone here?

If you were to drop an anvil on someone's head, sure, I could see how that could change their skull shape - but this?


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Post  tcpratt on Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:08 am

Hairy Potter:

I could be wrong about this, I will need to go back and read the study again, but we are not talking about reshaping the bone of the skull.  The pushing and kneading of the scalp transforms it from being domed (swelling) to flat (close to skull bone shape).  Once the scalp has been massaged for a long enough period of time, the build of of oils, etc in the scalp are released and the scalp lays flat against the skull as it should.  So, we are reshaping the scalp, not the skull.

I just added this to my current vigorous massaging and brushing method, and feel there is something to it.  My scalp is never oily or greasy, but after doing this new massage technique, my scalp is very greasy feeling, like I really am pushing out a lot of built of oils.  This really could be something that could make a difference over time.  I have done it for 20 minutes the last two days, I will try to do this more as the days go on.

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Post  Hairy Potter on Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:30 am

tcpratt wrote:Hairy Potter:

I could be wrong about this, I will need to go back and read the study again, but we are not talking about reshaping the bone of the skull.  The pushing and kneading of the scalp transforms it from being domed (swelling) to flat (close to skull bone shape).  Once the scalp has been massaged for a long enough period of time, the build of of oils, etc in the scalp are released and the scalp lays flat against the skull as it should.  So, we are reshaping the scalp, not the skull.

I just added this to my current vigorous massaging and brushing method, and feel there is something to it.  My scalp is never oily or greasy, but after doing this new massage technique, my scalp is very greasy feeling, like I really am pushing out a lot of built of oils.  This really could be something that could make a difference over time.  I have done it for 20 minutes the last two days, I will try to do this more as the days go on.
Ah, OK I'm with you tcpratt - ya, on re-reading that sounds right - thanks for clarifying. Yes, it definitely adds an element that towelling alone doesn't. Time will tell ...

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Post  nzbalda on Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:30 am

I agree with tcpratt on this my scalp felt sticky after first few days almost similar to sweating and letting it dry on your skin and then not showering for a couple of days (well what I imagine this would feel like). After that have been trying to do it prior to showering

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Post  TNT on Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:30 pm

Today morning i used a strap, like slowmoe, and this, by pressing the sides, helps the skin goes up, just like pinching. So, that way was more easy knead the skin and press it downward.
What do you guys think about that?
Maybe less effective?

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Post  bocor on Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:10 am

have done for a few days now just pinching the scalp all over not even 10 min a day and scalp is really sore with little red bumps now so this is alot more intense than any massage

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Post  TNT on Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:25 am

bocor wrote:have done for a few days now just pinching the scalp all over not even 10 min a day and scalp is really sore with little red bumps now so this is alot more intense than any massage
I have sore scalp too, and day after tomorrow i have a dermaroller day and i am thinking that it is gonna be more painful this time..

And another thing. When i expose my head to the sun, i feel some kind of tingling.
This was happen only the day after dermaroller, but now i feel this after this massage also.

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Post  retrohair on Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:42 am

I need a bit more info to get clarity on this technique. I have been doing maliniak method as well as "ferox" or brushing and I'm not sure how to implement this one.
Also, reshape the scalp?
Do you mean reshape the fleshy hair part covering the top of the skull( not bone ).
Cause I'm curious if the shape of the head is based that much on inflammation at all and more based on skull shape.

Either way does from my understanding of the test, this method entails pinching the scalp and pressing down on the scalp in areas where balding is occurring.
Let me know if i got this correct.

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Post  RisingFist on Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:25 pm

retrohair wrote:I need a bit more info to get clarity on this technique. I have been doing maliniak method as well as "ferox" or brushing and I'm not sure how to implement this one.
Also, reshape the scalp?
Do you mean reshape the fleshy hair part covering the top of the skull( not bone ).
Cause I'm curious if the shape of the head is based that much on inflammation at all and more based on skull shape.

Either way does from my understanding of the test, this method entails pinching the scalp and pressing down on the scalp in areas where balding is occurring.
Let me know if i got this correct.
I think a lot of people with mpb have that swelling head shape in common. It might be partly bone from calcification and also the skin (which what the study discusses) which is due to grease/inflammation, etc. There is probably more studies that compare bald men's head to non bald men.

so yes, you are basically pinching and pressing down on the scalp so the skin eventually becomes thinner and closer to the bone. I think it might be good to do that all over the top of the scalp rather then just the bald parts, at least that makes more sense to me. Don't forget 20 minutes in the morning and 20 minutes at night like the study says. It's important to follow it in order to replicate the results. I'm sure it will only help to add manliak massage and brushing on top of it.

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Post  hoppipolla on Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:56 pm

Hm, this seems very similar to the glycolic acid thread in principle.

I think we're onto some exciting stuff here overall.

I must admit the top of my scalp feels tough and hard to pinch as well.

Also people always talk about regrowth time and never about the time required to stop shedding.

I agree with the theories about the galea, infection and sebum/gunk build-up, so all of this and the other exfoliation thread is very logical.

Hm.

Onwards and upwards, I say! Smile

Oh, although how is this purging the dead skin or getting the oil out fully? Is it just squeezing it out?
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Post  RisingFist on Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:51 pm

http://www.hypertrichosis.com/hypertrichosis-causes/hypertrichosis-injury-induced.shtml

Here is an article on friction causing hair growth. It says it happens even with people in construction where they carry a load on their shoulders daily and get some hair growth there.

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Post  invinoveritas on Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:40 am

http://milospjanic.blogspot.com/2011/10/is-omicsonline-scientific-scam.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMICS_Publishing_Group

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Post  dudebro on Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:39 am

unvinoveritas, there are basically either of two scenarios here I think:

1. OMICS journal itself is questionable in their business practices, however the paper could still hold merit since an actual researcher submitted his work

2. The paper is fake and submitted by a fake author... but for what purpose? there is essentially no money making motive here directly.. no one makes money by people rubbing the crap out of their scalp

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Post  Complexx on Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:41 am

invinoveritas wrote:http://milospjanic.blogspot.com/2011/10/is-omicsonline-scientific-scam.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMICS_Publishing_Group
Lol Wikipedia? What are you going to post next, a quackwatch link? Of course sites like these will bash ANY kind of natural treatment simply because they aren't using any "FDA approved" quack medicine. The treatment is free for gods sake. Websites like these have it out for any type of effective alternative therapies..... If it isn't sold at a pharmacy or made in a lab it's considered "quackery".
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Post  rofl on Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:01 am

'2. The paper is fake and submitted by a fake author... but for what purpose? there is essentially no money making motive here directly.. no one makes money by people rubbing the crap out of their scalp'

I dont understand why it would be faked.  however i just dont believe its a very scientific study.  Theres no evidence they did any actual hair count tests.  the best i found was this...

'From observation, over 90% hair recovery was also found to be regrown from the hair follicles for each bald person in this study. The hair density is observed to be the same as the non-bald region. '


It says FROM OBSERVATION, this leaves them free to say any % they want, and yet they dont give us the pictures of these supposed 90% success stories to judge for ourselves.  I know ppl will hate me for being skeptical (again) but im trained to pick the good science from the bad science.  and this is bad science.  I dont believe their 90% or 95% rates at all.

also theres this statement...

'A polpulation of 100 bald people has adopted the proposed detumescence therapy (massaging) approach; the results demonstrated that all people could have their hair regrown naturally and healthily.'

it says COULD not DID.

I wish it was true, i really do, i wish alot of these theories and treatments were as they claim, but i cant ignore the facts. This study is BS, by a questionable company, with no proof of anything, and very badly written.
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Post  jkj86 on Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:22 am

The study doesn't look legit, but nonetheless the therapy seems to be making a big difference for me thus far. I have been doing this for maybe 10 +/- days, and my dandruff has lessened greatly. Also, when I follow the directions, my scalp turns almost dark red, whereas when just using a Boar Bristle Brush it only turns a light shade of pink. I think it's looking good so far, but time will tell if it really has such amazing results or not.

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Post  Complexx on Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:21 pm

rofl wrote:'2. The paper is fake and submitted by a fake author... but for what purpose? there is essentially no money making motive here directly.. no one makes money by people rubbing the crap out of their scalp'

I dont understand why it would be faked.  however i just dont believe its a very scientific study.  Theres no evidence they did any actual hair count tests.  the best i found was this...

'From observation, over 90% hair recovery was also found to be regrown from the hair follicles for each bald person in this study. The hair density is observed to be the same as the non-bald region. '


It says FROM OBSERVATION, this leaves them free to say any % they want, and yet they dont give us the pictures of these supposed 90% success stories to judge for ourselves.  I know ppl will hate me for being skeptical (again) but im trained to pick the good science from the bad science.  and this is bad science.  I dont believe their 90% or 95% rates at all.

also theres this statement...

'A polpulation of 100 bald people has adopted the proposed detumescence therapy (massaging) approach; the results demonstrated that all people could have their hair regrown naturally and healthily.'

it says COULD not DID.  

I wish it was true, i really do, i wish alot of these theories and treatments were as they claim, but i cant ignore the facts.  This study is BS, by a questionable company, with no proof of anything, and very badly written.
No, you don't wish it was true. You still believe in the Nordstrom study and you attack anybody that suggests that the Gales theory is legit.
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Post  Complexx on Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:24 pm

Either way, it works. Anything that promotes blood flow works.... PERIOD. No matter how much the Big PHARMA companies hate on it. Very Happy 
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